I was told the Ukrainian counteroffensive was a complete failure

>Andrucha, send towards them one shell. I'm serious.
b r u h

the entire point of russian disinfo and spam is to make you doubt everything until it's so obvious even some retarded fuck with a Z hat couldn't deny it

Pravdyne has supposedly been in Ukrainian hands for 3 months now though, so how did those russians get there?

>encouraging

All decent mappers have it as RU-controlled or contested, it's just liveuamap being inaccurate.

Liveuamap seemed pretty good in the first month or so but since then they just seemed to stop caring.

If Russia says Ukraine failed, that means they succeeded beyond expectations.

So this is the result of the great Ukraine cauldron? 3 captured Russian servicemen? Here's reality.

Zelensky, in a white powder fit, introduced a new Not One Step back order ahead of the so-called Kherson offensive. Soldiers of the dill are prohibited from retreating. Ukronazis have a choice of either marching forwards under our accurate artillery fire and precision missiles or facing an Azov Nazi firing squad. Such is life for holhols on the Dnieper steppe. It is in this way that Ukrainians carry out the work of the SWO for us by demilitarising and denazifying themselves

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Who told you it was a failure? Vatniks? hahahaha they don't exist my American friend! Here in /chug/ we are all very based 4channers and always have been! We're not reddit refugees sick of being downvoted in our own subreddit no! We're just a very organic general who absolutely doesn't raid other boards in an attempt to destroy Any Forums nope hahahaha.

Much obliged.

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Do you guys ever get tired of lying or do you just copy paste this shit into threads without even knowing how to speak English?

Yes major operations in a situation like this are measured in weeks or months, Russia learned this lesson the hard way after 'Kiev in three days'

in the end he said to delay that order.

sadly, no russian soldier in ukraine deseves to live. I have far worse than pic related but blue board and shit.

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I can't read vodka sorry

bro why the fuck would Russia care if a bunch of faggot americans on social media felt demoralized about their meme war. Do you think you have some sort of fighting spirit that is transporting to the frontline troops in Ukraine and encouraging them to fight harder? Do you think not believing in the legend of Snake Island will halt your government from using your tax payer $ to fund a proxy war? You people are fucking retarded and are way to personally invested in this slavshit

so it's only inaccurate when it contradicts ukrainian propaganda? got it.

>I'm to stupid to understand how propaganda works

>I was told the Ukrainian counteroffensive was a complete failure.
So was I. I thought that Russia had just wiped it out two days ago or that it had never happened. Quick update?

I went through the ukrpubbliks. I was surprised to find that all the videos posted on our channels, they are carefully watching and counting the shown broken technique of the pigs. They don’t believe in defeat, because. there are only a few tanks and infantry fighting vehicles on our videos. But the only video of Bayraktar posted today is considered proof of the destruction of our air defense. In their opinion, the air defense was knocked out, the supply was cut off, and our troops are about to run away from Kherson. Those who try to object are called crazy. It seems to me that they will be sure that they are winning even if we take the Lions.

no you’re just so narcissistic that you think your dumbass pathetic life is valuable enough to compose a propaganda campaign for

>Quick update?
russians lied

The goal is to make the grandchildren of politicians tell the politicians that the war is fruitless.

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They're intentionally not updating their maps for the sake of opsec. I can respect that, but it's also the entire point of their website.

Feints within feints.

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It's inaccurate when it overestimates or underestimates the advances of both sides and takes a gorillion hours to update.

Fuck you OP for just posting a twitter screenshot, not a nitter link or even a webm because you are just a fat lazy fuck Make gud posts. Stypp now and go and learjn how to save a twitter video as mp4 and convert it to VP8 no audio less than 120 seconds and less than 3MB so you can post it here.

Nice brain dead rant. Please continue to cry about people caring about things you don't.

...

The only Z-fags I know in real life are rich elderly out-of-touch people, the sorts of people who were/are Q-schizos

>bro why the fuck would Russia care if a bunch of faggot americans on social media felt demoralized about their meme war
Russia places a huge effort into trying to get western nations to cease supporting Ukraine and their populations to try and criticise support for Ukraine as being responsible for higher energy costs etc. They are keen to portray the democratically elected government of Ukraine as a "nato puppet' etc etc

exactly what I said. it's inaccurate when it contradicts ukropropaganda.

What are the fruits of this war again? Why do men need to die for Ukraine to host western military hardware on Russia's border? Honest question.

This, imagine being so narcissistic that you think anything on this site discussed, let alone your fucking opinion on a subject, actually matter in any significant way. 2016 was a mistake, it made the largest narcissistic retards on the site think they made a president when even a retarded 5th grader could see that no one would ever actually want Hillary. This has led to retards thinking if they “demoralize” people on Any Forums Ukraine will somehow loose or loose western support. It’s just so bizarre.

You was also told that PUCCIA is not going to invade the Ukraine, and yet here we are.

At this point at least 50 percent of these "vatnik bot" posts are just trolls taking advantage of the latest thing to get easy (You's) by pretending to be Russian shills

>twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1565422453287002112?cxt=HHwWgIC9uazbv7krAAAA
Smart vatniggers like staying alive.

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This is Any Forums, who gives a shit what we think.

Q fags are not politicians and are not the targets of shills on Any Forums. Shills on Any Forums are not directly targeting their intended targets. Remember how (((they))) got to Kellyanne Conway by getting to her daughter, ultimately causing her to quit because her marriage was destroyed by domestic disputes?

Ukrainians don't want to be ruled by Russia, so they are resisting and we are supplying them to avoid the same disaster that happened when the Finns were not supported by their allies when they were also invaded by Russia. I will never understand how any patriotic American could not side with any nation, no matter where on earth, that is fighting for its own independence. Whenever I bring this up, the reply always has to do with muh jooz, so see if you can come up with something different.

I didn't say that but okay.

SURRENDER AND YOU'LL GET TO SUCK ALL THE MANDICK YOU CAN, MANDICKSUCKER! XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA!!!!

Putin is to Ukraine what King George was to America, except infinitely worse.

youtube.com/watch?v=lh4mDKnijlI

This war is going to scar the Russian psyche for 100 years isn't it?

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God how much digging did you have to do to finger this one?

Putin is also completely alien to the people of Ukraine in a way that King George III was not alien to the people of the American colonies.

>blah blah blah hohol
>start finish

>he thinks that there will be russia 100 years from now

Shut up you hack. If Kherson falls, the Russians lose their outpost west of the river. It also puts the Russians in Crimea in trouble.

Theres a flip-side to that coin. Russia has interests too, and its not interested in NATO/EU on its doorstep. You can handwave that away all you want, but it matters.
The US would not tolerate Mexico joining a military alliance with China or Russia and placing long range missile systems on its border either. I dare say the US would invade Mexico over such a stunt.
I think its laughable you bring up "democracy", thats such a joke argument at this point when the US and Ukraine are run by oligarchs and bankers who silence dissent with fear and intimidation.
>patriotic American
>America put last while we give and give to nations who do nothing for us
Ukraine can fight for their own independence without 80 billion dollars and CIA handlers from the state department. Oh they'll lose? Not my problem. Tired of being the "saviors" for an indifferent world while my nation is drowned in brown people and debt.

webm cause op is a giant cock sucking lazy faggot and can't do it himself

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Lmao let me guess, NATO is expansionist and aggressive right? That ebil defensive pact out to get rid of the glorious Russian republic?

Oh definitely. Ukraine was NEVER part of Russia. America began as a British colony, key word being colony.

Stop making monkey noises

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Think of it a bit more as if the war of 1812 was about conquest. How many Americans would agree that we should have just accepted British rule and not resisted?

>Not my problem
The Cold War wouldn't have been our problem if we helped Finland absolutely fuck up the Soviet Union and weaken it enough for Nazi Germany to actually accomplish its objectives. Short-sighted people like you are in charge of nothing for very, very obvious reasons. As for the brown people and debt, that's an internal problem caused by politicians who possess the same immunity to bullets that you do.

100 years from now, Russia will still be muttering about how the CIA brainwashed and genetically engineered Ukrainians into the perfect fighting machines.

"If."

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Look out user. NATO is on Russia's borders.

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>Putin is to Ukraine what King George was to America, except infinitely worse.
I don't know about that take a look at what King George did in Ireland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchcapping
Pitchcapping was a form of torture which involved pouring hot pitch, or tar into a conical shaped paper cap, which was forced onto a bound suspect's head, allowed to cool, then rapidly removed, taking with it a portion of the suspect's skin and tissue. It was used by British forces against suspected Irish rebels during the period of the 1798 rebellion, most famously on Anthony Perry, one of the leaders of the Wexford Rebels.

Fr. John Murphy a rebel leader, the priest and his bodyguard were found resting in a haybarn on the outskirts of Tullow, Co. Carlow, by Yeoman forces and taken to the local barracks. In a bizarre trial the captives were sentenced to death. After both men were stripped and tied to the Tullow town whipping post, severe flogging was carried out to extract information, but to no avail.Both men were then hanged. Not content at this point, the Yeoman cut off Fr. Murphy's head and placed it into a burning tar barrel and forced a family out of their home to see his head burning.English soldiers later hung the remains on spikes in the town square.

The Russians didn't even get to burn down Ukraine's capital, lol. The British (or Canadians, depending on who you ask) managed to physically reach the White House.

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Ah yes, Russia, the perfect spartan state, I too remember Spartas hiv and aids epidemics.

I dunno, I'm not sure the target is politicians, or their families. I think the target is public perception. If they can shape the narrative into Democrat = Ukraine, Republican = Russia, the polarization-loving American public will do their job for them. Waverers will go along with the zeitgeist and the politicians will shift their positions to conform to what the majority of their voters think. Then it's a matter of getting "their" party to win, and then they get a break.
I don't think it will work, but I think this is their goal.
Mark my words, "Putin was a CIA plant" will be a popular conspiracy theory after this is all over.

>Tired of being the "saviors" for an indifferent world while my nation is drowned in brown people and debt.

Yes, me too, John Adams of Ohio Oblast, is of very upset about glorious american motherland 's sorry state.
We should of isolating ourselves before it leads to more misery and possible escalation with powerful Russia.

Russia is late-stage Sparta, when it was a joke of its former self and bested by other Greek states.

Like how Russians brainwashed and genetically engineered pic related to wipe the floor with French and then American forces

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God you retards are still grasping on to that one aren’t you? Didn’t make much of a difference though considering we rebuilt it and eventually surpassed you as the dominant world power eh?

Not my fault you're too retarded to understand diplomacy. Don't feel bad, none of the brown people, women, or queers in the state dept. understand it either.
If America and the "allies" hadn't gotten involved in WW2 then the soviet union would have been btfo'd by the Germans, but if you remember they were our "allies". Good move.
See how minding your own business results in less blowback?
>Ukraine isn't on Russia's border
>Ukraine isn't the gateway to Black Sea
>the only warm water port for Russia
They aren't sending their best shills.

shhh, no blyat now, only peace

Honestly the conflict between Ukraine and Russia reminds me of the Macedonian Wars a bit.

Greeks thought everyone else was a barbarian, till they met their match in the Romans. Sure the Greeks slammed the Romans brutally, but the Romans never stopped coming.

Oh lord he’s postin’

The same narcissism can easily be something that propagandists appeal to. And anyways, why not? you're downplaying how popular Any Forums is as a website and how wide a net you can cast nowadays over the internet with this stuff. And it It doesn't really matter who buys it, only that somebody does and goes onto parrot it.

blyat

>we take the Lions
Learn how to use Google translate properly

Yes and now Finland and Sweden are too, enjoy lake nato you absolute retard

This. It's the same shit as the 'Democrat' posters on Any Forums.
>take retarded opinion that's still believably held by 5% of the population and runs contrary to the popular beliefs of a board
>post it on that board
>collect free (you)s

>Ukraine was NEVER part of Russia
>The Russian Empire never existed
Quit being melodramatic. Ukraine was part of Russia from the 1670's to 1917, even if you consider them to be an 'separate state' of the Soviet Union.

>WHAT ABOUT
Dude, we've all seen We Were Soldiers. Nobody in America as butthurt as you are right now.

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Me no understand

>Not my fault you're too retarded to understand diplomacy.
Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU: "It's not an issue of readiness. Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country. It's a bluff created not in Russia, but in those countries that are now spreading this hysterical message, I would say, across Europe and the world."
27/01/2022

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Lmao imagine thinking the antisocial retards here have opinion that matter, it trolls trolling trolls all the way down.

>I was told the Ukrainian counteroffensive was a complete failure.

It wasnt. Today's vid of vatniks getting btfo by ukraninan arty:
files.catbox.moe/fmxoe9.MP4

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Not funny

Oddly, the USSR is barely mention both by frenchs and americans when speaking of Vietnam.

The Viets gained a grudging respect on their own for that one.
We don't need excuse like "and if it wasn't for Russia, we would have won !" to admit we fucked up and could have done better.

I have no doubt that the time we invested in training the Ukrainian military played a role in saving Kiev from a fate like that.

Sure yeah I see your point about general perception. If enough people are sick of seeing tax money go to the war, they will vote Republican with the hopes that Republicans won't send more aid. If Republicans are stupid enough to do that, then they will be blamed if Ukraine doesn't win.

America and its allies getting involved in WW2 was inevitable, so no point in even considering that. Our objective in the Ukraine-Russia War is to break Russia's back and knock them off the world stage for good. Once that happens, we can focus entirely on China and prepare for the inevitable fight to the death. All of that other crap about Lend-Lease isn't as relevant as you think it is. If we minded our own business, we would not have benefited from victory in WW2. Minding our own business and staying in our little corner of the world is precisely what Russia wants because they are facing the very real threat of a second collapse. If Russia fractures again and the federation splits up, that region of the world will be of zero threat to us for a minimum of one entire century.

I have a feeling the Ukrainians will tear the Russians apart. They're far more competent.

Trolls trolling trolls is the point. It's easy to reach a lot of people with a message and eventually someone will start saying it for you.

>the antisocial retards here have opinion that matter
But we do. This is where we come. We have decided to kill the entire Russian army, Are you having fun?

It's probably why Vietnam and America became fast friends post-war. We respect natural fighters. Say what you want about Afghans, but they can fight fiercely (provided they have the right motivation).

America and Ukraine will become quite close post-war.

Here it is for real"
twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1565337893274497025

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all hohol arguments are "if this, then this", and none of the ifs ever happen. Hope you "people" got brutalized for fighting for a gay alliance

Lmao you’ve forgotten where you are and it’s gone to your head. This is a basket weaving forum sir, no matter how relevant the topic is or how important you think you are it doesn’t matter, no one cares and this site isn’t some meme magic holy site.

Let me ask you this: if your supply routes were cut off, partisans were all over the city you're in, and you knew you were isolated and undermannned.....would you really be so STUPID to hold a city you know is a poor place to defend?

youtube.com/watch?v=KX3CmKvzyw0

3/10

The actual reason why Vietnam sided with America is because the Chinese are lying snakes who fucking invaded Vietnam, and America isn't really interested in annexing anyone. The whole Vietnam War was a joke. America was the good guy the whole time, we were just arguing over the color of the drapes.

>Ukrainians will tear the Russians apart
They already are but small tactical victories need to add up to weight.
And Ukraine has neither the trained troops or the equipment in large enough number to add enough such small victories.
For now at least and the russians aren't exactly being sitting ducks waiting. Hence the meatgrinder on both sides until Ukraine's next batch of professional soldiers finish training or Russia decide to mobilize.

Seriously, the Russians should NEVER have decided to hold Kherson. It is far too full of partisans and way too easy to cut off from resupply & help.

You're God damn right we would invade Mexico. It would be based as fuck and the kino would be legendary. Of course every nation has its own interests, but I don't give a fuck about Russian interests.
Also
>France didn't do the same shit for us.

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?

Every time you see that a Russian went into an unmarked grave

>The whole Vietnam War was a joke.
>America was the good guy the whole time
>We were just arguing over the color of the drapes.

It's true that if the Viets had said "we want independance" and nothing else, the USA would have backstabbed the french without a second thought.

And after the french left, the US wouldn't have pushed for a military dictatorship if the reds had just agreed to NOT go full soviets.

Modern warfare is fucked up Mr. Kill and I'm a moderate too.

>they don't even have arguments
All you can do is post the same /k/ope replies and shill. Pathetic.
Uh yeah, and? Clearly I don't support NATO so why would I enjoy it?
Is this supposed to be some kind of own? Why would they tell you what they were planning on doing on TV?
Clearly diplomacy broke down way before the decision to do a little special military operation was put in place. It's like you just started paying attention and fail to grasp this began in the 90s after the collapse of the USSR.
>Our objective in the Ukraine-Russia War is to break Russia's back and knock them off the world stage for good
>Once that happens, we can focus entirely on China and prepare for the inevitable fight to the death.
Lmao, well hows that working so far? Inflation is up, the dollar is looking shakey, massive energy crisis in Europe and coming soon to the US, no plans what-so-ever to fix any of the massive problems state-side like unmitigated illegal immigration or the political unrest/unease.
Meanwhile the US is dependent on China for a multitude of goods, namely electronics, for the economy to continue moving along. Meanwhile Russia is experiencing a boost to their economy due to "sanctions" that have totally backfired.
>but I don't give a fuck about Russian interests.
So then why give a fuck about Ukraine, an obvious corrupt state the democrats use to launder money and get pay4play schemes?

>you "people"

Where does the "ukrainians and russians are slavic brothers" go ?

>gay alliance
Pic very much related

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>would invade Mexico
kek

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Oh god it’s unable to understand sarcasm, it’s even dumber than I thought.

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They needed to. The entire plan was to cut Ukraine down to size.
>step 1: create buffer states in Donbass
>step 2: invade all the way to Odessa, cut off Ukraine from the sea and link up with the Moldova breakaway republic
>optional objective: take Kiev (yes yes, muh feint, but be reasonable here) with nationwide pincer attack from North and South; be free to dictate terms and install puppet government in Ukraine forever
>short term future objective: ship out all ukrainians in conquered territories to Siberia, replace with Russians
>long term future objective: Invade Moldova, rinse and repeat, start pushing south towards Serbia as the dominos begin to fall

So Kherson was the key foothold for the entire plan. They HAD to take Kherson, otherwise there would have been no epic HOI4 pincer and Crimea would have been vunerable. You must remember that Russia and China are all about the buffer states. Why does North Korea exist, for example? Because China doesn't want a US base on their border. Same reason why Ukraine (and finland, lol) could not be allowed to join EU or NATO. This was an all or nothing play by Russia.

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Were you just pretending to be retarded? Pretty good impression.

People on both sides have been surrendering in small numbers since the start of this dumpster not-war, regardless of context. It's the absolute state of modern "soldiers" that they fold pathetically as soon as pressure is applied, where WW1 soldiers fighting a concerningly equivalent war would fight for years in far worse conditions.

>Our slaves rebuilt it
fify

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That's because in the modern era, cowardice gets you court marshaled or sent to a hospital, while in WW1 you just got shot.

Uh hooo now I’m the retard, it’s definitely it that I don’t take you seriously at all and have been mocking you the entire time because you do nothing but argue in bad faith for a country that has blatantly violated the rights and sovereignty of another.

Lmao

Yes and?

Is Mr.Kill a woman?

>hows that working so far?
Long term, not good for Russia. Everyone is feeling the consequences of this invasion, but Russia's economy is hurting almost as bad as their military is. You are aware that Russia is taking significant losses, right? You can say whatever you want, but your words won't piece back together all of those lost tanks or revive the tens of thousands of dead officers and contracted soldiers.

I think you're the one here glamorizing Any Forums as something it's not. It's not a secret club and it's been in public consciousness since at least 2007 with the scientology shit. The people who use it have lives outside of it. And even if those lives are terminally online, they include other popular social media. This is a social media website.

>Lmao, well hows that working so far?
Like a war.
And curiously, no NATO casualties so far.
Can Russia say the same ?

Considering some of the conditions, being shot would probably be preferable.

No there are many of us in many countries.
youtube.com/watch?v=UjOJAyOAxwE

that's good though. That's a good thing. Those wars were not good things.

No one gives a fucking shit about this site nor have they since the late 2000’s outside of dumb FBI agents who think we hand out guides to make pipe bombs and still think Any Forums is anything but /x/ but politically themed

>So then why give a fuck about Ukraine
Because it's in our interests that Russia does not control more land, industry and natural resources.
And if it can exhaust the military stockpile it inherited from the USSR, all the better.

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>Clearly I don't support NATO so why would I enjoy it?

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It was a bloodbath. See the results
files.catbox.moe/j8sh4u.mp4

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Slavely based. The nation unironically claiming to be a shining beacon of freedom to the world required slave labour to run it.

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Every action which results in Russia being balkanized or otherwise no longer a threat to the West is an action that results in China losing a key ally and the West's ability to focus fully on China.
NATO exists to destroy Russia. Therefore, it must destroy Russia.

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I don't even know which post was yours, but honestly none of them seemed very clever. Much like this reply it reads like some midwit who thinks they're really smart is coping and seething instead of actually engaging or arguing anything.
If my ideas are so "bad faith" and "stupid" then why not own me with "facts and logic", unless of course you're actually an idiot with no arguments.
I honestly don't know what the truth on their loses are, but it can't be much worse than Ukraine's loses.
Their economy is not in shambles and won't be anytime soon as long as Europe is dependent on them for energy. Right now Russia is selling gas to China and China is reselling it at a markup to Europe. So much for "breaking their backs".
I wouldn't say zero NATO casualties, because obviously there are "off the books" mercs from NATO countries fighting in Ukraine, but this isn't really a great argument since the US is pouring billions and draining its stockpiles of weaponry to fund this thing.
Are you American? How does it effect you in America? I'll say this, war will effect you more negatively than peace would have.
Nice reddit meme.

Narcissism isn’t becoming of anyone here.

Also wow you figured out Russia does psyops, one of the most obvious and well documented things about them in the last 60+ years.

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>holding onto that hairline

Bro...

"Philip proceeded to invade Laconia, devastate much of it, and eject the Spartans from various parts"

God just stop, we don’t care how much you piss and shit yourself

Bye bye captain chromo

>it can't be much worse than Ukraine's loses.
It can't? What if it is? Attackers lose more than defenders, and while we cannot ascertain the exact numbers it is clear that Russia lost enough to end up being forced to retreat from the north and east flanks.. oh wait sorry, I mean "reorganize and cease the feint operations". Europe is indeed suffering an energy crisis due to their inability to become self-sufficient, but the deaths of all of those husbands and sons as well as the loss of a great deal of military equipment is a bit more permanent than not having heating for one winter. I know you are trying very hard to defend Russia on the internet, but I really hope you are aware that Russians don't think any better of people like you than they do of trannies and feminists. If the side you are rooting for had it your way, you would end up in the same mass grave as people who you ideologically despise, because to Russians you are just another westerner.

You are actually wrong on this one, friend. That was me. See

>He doesn't realise or understand how information spreads from propaganda sources to social media and spread around by shills who are not paid but do it for free because they're ideologically possessed or just believe the lie is worth it for their nation/people/cause.
Do you not understand the concept of memes, do you not understand the concept of spreading misinformation to your followers who spread it elsewhere. Do you not understand how targeted media campaigns work to chase the disaffected.

You are about to fall off the Dunning-Kruger's first curve. Don't jump, take it slow.

When the hohil goes to troll the moskals on the internet
Start finish

Can you read poorfag ?

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clicked the wrong one

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>weapons
>nooooo stop talking about weapons
retard

that was so fucking hollywood; holy shit it was cringe. even the female solider at the end. fucking lame as shit

Esl?

Wouldn't you be worried to surrender as a Russian? They have to have some clue what their own guys have been doing to Ukr prisoners. I guess it beats getting blown up by artillery though.

Vatnik sqeualing for a tranny janny to hide the evidence that russia is getting absolutely turbofucked in the field.
Things must really be grim for the vatniks on the ground.

>Speaking about offensive and current event
> Call retard because he just can't explain why it's wrong

Go fuck your momma panties billy, it's not a place for you here

Russians gonna learn why the Geneva conventions were established. What goes around comes around.

>NO, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT ARMING YOURSELVES SO YOU CAN OVERTHROW THE US GOVERNMENT ON /k/

Don't give a fuck about this war and who's wrong, who's right, everything is fucked, i'm here to talk about weapons, not about who kick the butt of who

And literally the first paragraph he says that it is also one of substance. He just said it has more symbolic over it, regardless of how much they captured.

Which is 100% true. Russia shouldn't be stalemated let alone being PUSHED BACK.

You're a pathetic brainlet who has no idea how to do anything but bang on a keyboard about >RUSSIA BAD MMMKAY!
I hope no ones paying you for these posts, they should get their money back.
Ok let's say Russia has lost lots of equipment and a fair amount of men. They still spend way less on their military budget than the US, and the US has already spent a fortune more than Russia on this little war already.
Furthermore this war is alienating the US from its allies because of this logic:
> Europe is indeed suffering an energy crisis due to their inability to become self-sufficient, but the deaths of all of those husbands and sons as well as the loss of a great deal of military equipment is a bit more permanent than not having heating for one winter.
People in Europe are getting tired of the US war machine fucking up their normal daily life. If it had not been for the sanctions and the swift debacle, which were done by the US, they would not be suffering.
I'm not defending Russia I'm just providing a counter point of view on the issue. I will say that Russia didn't come to this country and declare that I'm a DVE and demand I give up my firearms or send the FBI to harass me about my political beliefs.

Rsl phoneposter with fat thumbs

Imagine you lost your mom or baby brother or battle buddy to some churka steppe-nigger who came here to "liberate" you, and now he's walking towards you, smirking, hands up with his shit-stained undies on a stick. You might not be so sanguine either.

Oh that's what you think ? You think little kid, you're the definition of shame

Blah blah blah

Let me ask you question, Ivan. What is the purpose of a weapon? Answer: Wage war. This is a war, it is /k/ related, fuck off with your concern trolling.

Under your logic, if /k/ was around for WW2, we somehow wouldn't be able to talk about D-Day and Stalingrad and whatever because it would be too 'political'.

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They don't need to convert people to Z if they can just make them think the war is hopeless for ukies

>Furthermore this war is alienating the US from its allies
source?
>Europe is indeed suffering an energy crisis due to their inability to become self-sufficient, but the deaths of all of those husbands and sons as well as the loss of a great deal of military equipment is a bit more permanent than not having heating for one winter.
source?
>People in Europe are getting tired of the US war machine fucking up their normal daily life.
source?
>If it had not been for the sanctions and the swift debacle, which were done by the US, they would not be suffering.
source?
>I'm not defending Russia I'm just providing a counter point of view on the issue.
lol
>I will say that Russia didn't come to this country and declare that I'm a DVE and demand I give up my firearms or send the FBI to harass me about my political beliefs.
The US didn't come to my country and start bombing schools and hospitals and rape my children while telling me to my face that I'm being liberated.

>The US didn't come to my country and start bombing schools and hospitals and rape my children while telling me to my face that I'm being liberated.
They did in the 1940's.

>Are you American?
I'm from Europe.
The part that is supposed to freeze and starve in a few months and will probably keep laughing at you into April next year.
The part that just realized that the oceans of your natural gas was a cheap luxury we indulged but can just live without if it ain't cheap anymore.

>Go fuck your momma panties billy, it's not a place for you here
Not the user, but I've never actually heard non-ESLs speak like this in English. There's been so many examples of this in /k/ lately.
Is this how nu-/k/ speaks now? Have we been invaded by brown people?

>Current event
Ho so you can't read the "friendly reminder" of /k/ don't worry it's nothing, there are a lot of poorfag like you, enjoy it

I can guarantee that Europe will not freeze to death. Russia relies on selling gas to Europe for its income. It cannot fund its war without raising cash somewhere. This is a completely empty threat.

There're everywhere now user ...

Then go to another thread that talks about weapons, or go make your own. Why is this difficult for you? Why are you contributing to something you don't like? Go be the change you want to see on this board. It is really fucking simple. I don't live in Canada, so I don't go to the Canada General and talk about guns there. I don't really do anime, so I don't go into /ak/ and post anime girls. I don't own an assault rifle, so I don't go in /arg/. See how this is really simple? I avoid threads I don't want to go into or have nothing to contribute to and, ta-da, my viewing experience is massively increased because I am not angered by purposefully going into a thread about something I am not interested in!

So there you go my friend, it is really simple to find threads about weapons and if you can't, well no fear, you can make your OWN thread about whatever weapon you want to talk about!

SIMPLES!

>The US didn't come to my country and start bombing schools and hospitals and rape my children while telling me to my face that I'm being liberated.
No even worse, the US color revolution'd your government and positioned you in the path of Russia so they would come and bomb your schools and hospitals and rape your children so that you could be the dumbass useful idiot disposable golem in their proxy war.
No refunds Ukiefren ;) pleasure doing business with the great satan amirite?
Well good luck to you, hope it works out for the best, really. If things do get bad, just remember who wanted this for you and who didn't.

the issue mainly is predatory companies charging more for energy citing 'issues in Europe'... except it is literally every nation in Europe doing it. So people are being forced to pay more and no government seems to want to tell them to knock it the fuck off.

>assault rifle
Didn't stop you from going to the weapons board as a nogunz

Yeah you got a point user

They spend less because they have less to spend. We can eat the cost of the equipment we sent and still arm our own military. I would not be surprised if our aid alone outpaces Russian military spending. In the long-term (which is my entire focus), we recoup that money while Russia does not. Russia still has not recovered from the fall of the USSR, and there is no way their economy recovers any faster than it did under Putin. As for the opinions of people in Europe, please ask them whether they would rather have the US military defending them or the Russian military in their place. Europeans begrudgingly acknowledge that their countries have all structured themselves economically on the assumption that the US military will do the heavy lifting if Russia invades. If Russia is out of the picture, the US would actually have justification to downsize their presence. Funny that the very thing you want (US reducing its international presence) is more likely if the US indirectly wins this war with Ukraine. Lastly, if you think Russia doesn't harass its own citizens, seize their firearms, and police political beliefs then you are truly uninformed. In Russia, even holding a sign with acronyms (or in one case, a blank sign) justifies your imprisonment. Bald and Bankrupt was just permanently banned from Russia because they were afraid he would depict the consequences of the economic sanctions or film people sharing disagreement about the war. The USA ain't as free as it used to be, but only a fool would assert that any other major country offers more freedom than we do, as sad as that fact is.

yeah NATO specifically put Ukraine next to the Russian border when the world was formed

this is also true but above all else europe will not freeze to death because european winters are not very cold

And we welcomed them despite it all.
Because the other side was worse.

Also, the yanks gave us chocolate and they brought their own food.
Big argument in their favor, that.
Meanwhile, russians nearly starved from incompetence and had to loot the pantries of the ukrainian "brothers" they pretended to liberate.

I've posted my bolt action rifle before a few days ago when people screeched this at me. Also, /k/ isn't 'Gun Ownership' it is to talk about weapons. I don't own a F-35 but I can talk about it if I want. Again, you can go to any other thread you want and talk about weapons there.

>hazy pixels
I hate Vatnigs but come on.

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>The US would not tolerate Mexico joining a military alliance with China or Russia
Ah man, good thing we didn't try to genocide them several times to instill such a fear from us.

>being waved side to side
>white
what is it then?

That's funny because if the realized how things work here, they'd realize the gov doesn't listen to input from the people on these matters anymore.

I love how in all these vatnik fantasies Russia has no agency and is simply required by divine edict to act like pillaging mongrel savages.

Extra huge condom full of cum just like my hentais

>The US would not tolerate Mexico joining a military alliance with China or Russia and placing long range missile systems on its border either. I dare say the US would invade Mexico over such a stunt.
Nobody wants to be in an alliance with Russia. You have no force projection, you abuse and invade your own allies if they break with your geopolitical vision, and your equipment is bottom of the barrel garbage.
France left NATO and the US didn't fucking care. Ukraine ousts their Russia cocksucking president and elects a pro-Western one, and Russia invades. Who is the nigger here?

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Well i don't think the russians left their frontline positions to wave some panties

>France left NATO and the US didn't fucking care.
To be honest, we knew they would come back, if not officially then at least in practice.
Which they did, even if they asked some special treatment just to save face.

Euromaidan saw hundreds of thousands of ukie citizens in the streets. They have more volunteers than they know what to do with. Bitch about CIA magic all you want, but the Ukrainian people themselves wanted nothing to do with Russia's trashcan 'empire'.

stop posting
stick to fucking reddit, guns and warfare are clearly above your cognitive ability.

>It would be based as fuck and the kino would be legendary.
Beyond based. Obliterate every spic failed state, slaughter their oooo supa scawy cartel gangbangers with overwhelming military force, resettle everything down to Panama, wall off Colombia and mine the waters, reenact trail of tears for anything whose primary language is Spanish.

And fuck that vatnik-cheerleader faggot you're all arguing with, not worth the time, fuck Russia and who needs to justify wanting to see them fucked over? All that deflection only works if the person they're arguing with gives half a shit about humping the moral high ground. Which Russia and its cocksuckers only pretend to care about when it suits them, so why should anyone play along?

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Mickey from Orlando oblast and I agree, that to allowing this millitary operation and distract from pressing domestic USA problems like Brandon's senility and son hunter with a laptop controverysy is far from ideal, even on a suite like this - reddit. Also the price of gas these days yikes bro !

Imagine thinking that geopolitics should be fair and that we shouldn't be fucking with Russia every chance we get.

Fuck off vatnik

And that's the difference between East and West. The East chimps out while the West rolls its eyes and plays the diplomatic long game. Russia and China base their respective alliances on fear of a return of German/Japanese fascism, while the US and UK alliances are just about global trade.

>we recoup that money while Russia does not.
That literally makes no sense, the US national debt is at 30 trillion, its jumped 10 trillion since 2017. 10 Trillion in 5 years is a rapid acceleration in exponential debt growth, the US "recoups" none of these expenditures. The rising inflation is directly tied to this overleveraged debt based economy printing money backed by nothing.
>If Russia is out of the picture, the US would actually have justification to downsize their presence.
Hilarious, why not just resolve these issues peacefully in the first place and not back nations into corners where war is the only out?
>(US reducing its international presence) is more likely if the US indirectly wins this war with Ukraine
Lmao, uh no. The reason the dollar still has value even though it is backed by literally nothing is because of the threat of the US military. That's baked into this empire's sole reason for existing.
>Russia big meanies blah blah human rights USA good
I literally don't care about internal Russian political issues. I care about my country and it fucking sucks and its gay, and these "freedums" you refer to are an illusion. You are not free at all and you are not in control of anything that happens in this country. You are a debt slave with a worthless piece of paper called the constitution that republicans and democrats wipe their asses with.
Lets fix that instead of worrying about Ukraine.
Choosing allies has consequences. Cry about it.
Uh they have interests like any nation and they happen to be the 3rd most powerful nation on earth, so if you fuck with them they will pillage your shit like mongrel savages. Cry about it, I don't make the rules.
Its a hypothetical and analogous situation, brainlet, and you obviously can't understand the implications of allying with a rival nation against the larger regional power next door to you. But hey, thats why your country is being demolished right now.

Ukraine isn't a part of NATO retard. It's not a non-NATO major ally either, which is a legal designation. The closest thing to being a part of NATO it ever got was getting JTAG joint training sessions

>Its a hypothetical and analogous situation
Oh, so it's purely hypothetical? Well, what if the fucking Moon allied with the US against Russia because Russia is an incompetent bully? Purely hypothetical, you see.

>They happen to be the third most powerful nation on earth
lm-fucking-ao. You're three decades behind reality on that one Boris.

Possibly laundry day

>Cry about it, I don't make the rules.
Nor do I, which is why I find it weird that you're crying about other nations retaliating against Russia for being savages that disrupt trade, alliances, and goals.
Again, you apply the so called "rules" to one side, and even then only when it suits you.
So eat my ass, vatnigger.

>3rd most powerful
Lol
Lmao even

Why do you even care?! It's not your country anyway! I just want to rape babies and terrorize a smaller country it has nothing to do with you! What about the potholes in Wichita, go fix that!

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The Russian debt has doubled since 2017, so it has risen faster than the US debt. Peace is not an option between a superpower and its rival, particularly when the rival is literally invading an ally and threatening their sovereignty. The US military is one of our greatest assets and wanting it to fade away is something only a self-hating traitor would want. America has its problems and those are problems that I certainly hope you are working to resolve rather than just complaining on the internet. We the people can focus on internal problems while the government focuses on external problems. Letting Ukraine lose hurts us, and the only type of person that wants Ukraine to lose is the type of person that would welcome an occupying force in America as well under the assumption that said force would solve the internal problems (spoiler: they won't)

>the only warm water port for Russia
What, did Novorossiysk get nuked?

>Why do you even care?!
Why not? It is called being a global superpower you pussy bitch.

Bet every hohol TV channel showed this great peremogha like over 9000 times lol. Regime in Kyev gotta feed their plebs something.

Doesn't count. Too far south.

What I've heard is that the Russian leadership's way of thinking is very cynical of these things and assumes that they are some sort of self-deception balanced precariously on top of realpolitik, and that these agreements will naturally fall apart if you put enough at stake.

Even worse, it has Russians living in it

>Russia happen to be the 3rd most powerful nation on earth

You have an economy smaller than Italy. Even the fucking leaf is more relevant to the world economy than you are.
Your army is a joke that only exist because of a aging stockpile from the cold war but whose know-how is so far gone you are using WW1-level strategies.

If Russia is the 3rd most powerful nation on Earth, then the gap with what's above it is so high that only the first and second nations matter.

Well, now I'm just curious.
Who do you think the first and second most powerful nations are?

The Shadow-HRE and Mongolia.

Take a guess.

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How did vatniks go from bragging about taking Kyiv in a week to gloating they aren’t being kick out fast enough

The state of most militaries is pretty dismal because of over-reliance on the US. That said, those militaries are also intended to cooperate such that all of Europe can summon a combined army that could combat Russia should the US be unable to do it alone. Russia has a limited number of military allies but they would serve the same purpose as support.

USA and China, obviously. I'd love to see if he thinks USA is number one or if China is because then we would know how delusional he really is.

It's embarrassing that the Russians are not only failing to advance, now the Ukrainians are actually COUNTER-ATTTACKING a nation with enormous material and numerical superiority over them 6 months in.

Clearly yes, western Ukrainians and eastern Ukrainians do not see eye to eye, and obviously the CIA understands how to exploit this to cause internal strife to effect the outcomes of "free and fair democratic elections" to get the kind of leaders who are on-board with their interests. You aren't wrong most Ukrainians want to enter into the European influence sphere, but that has consequences.
You're on sides with liberal retards riding this flaming dumpster fire into the ground, so idgaf.
They were pushing to join both the EU/NATO, and this is obvious.
What if you're a retard with no arguments, oh wait, you are.
Cope all you want but thats reality. Whos ahead of them? India? Brazil? Japan? Seriously.
>abloo ablooo waaaah russia is pillaging us like mongrel savages we dindunuffins!!!
I forgot that Russia was putting missiles on the US and Europes borders and economically sanctioning them. Lmao, oh right.
Isn't apply the "rules" to one side basically what the west has been doing this entire time? Like I said, cry about it.
The US government is ZOG, it does not represent me or my interests at all. I literally could give a single fuck if this gay empire is destroyed. I would rather fight off chinks and vatniks over this wasteland than watch it being filled with obese homosexual retards like you.
>You have an economy smaller than Italy.
They're 9th and Texas is 10th, so you're correct but not by much. ;) idk why you think I live in Russia but continue deluding yourself.
China obviously.

Not him but it’s an interesting question. My take:
#1 US
#2 UK

I'm unhappy that the copypasta isn't the one with all the Rs replaced by Ls.

Oh boy another thread flooded because retards can’t help but argue with some Europoor z-tard pretending to be American and crying about “muh brown invading!”

>They were pushing to join both the EU/NATO, and this is obvious.
It's none of Russia's business who joins NATO, and now Finland is in NATO as well. Enjoy HIMARS flattening St. Petersburg.

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Ukraine isn't the gateway to the black sea. That's called Turkey and its been in NATO for decades now.

>China obviously.
Well I guess that answers that. The vatnigger thinks that China is the first AND the second most powerful nation.
Lol.
Lmao.

>Too far south.
for what

it's precisely as far south as Sevastopol

They're Russians, this is how they always are.

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Because they're fighting all of NATO now, not Ukraine. NATO is hiding behind every rock and shrub in the region, handing out HIMARS and lasers like candy. And they even gave Ukrainians super soldier serum or something you know whatever. And yet...despite all this...Russia stands alone against the entire globalist armada. A Zilent guardian, a vatnik crusader.

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>ZOG
Come on man, I told you to try to argue without bringing up Jews. Why do all of you people's arguments ultimately circle back to muh jooz? You can call me as fat and gay as you want, but your desire to defend a nation that doesn't give a fuck about you while justifying it by saying your nation doesn't give a fuck about you is embarrassing to read.

>Whos ahead of them?
Every major NATO nation. Just a mere handful of HIMARS launchers brought the shortbus military operation to a grinding halt. You're bogged down and going nowhere, merely contending with NATO's cold war era leftovers. It was over for you in 91, you just haven't caught up with reality.

>Russia simp mentions Jews
>jannies immediately move thread to Any Forums

What the fuck did I tell you!

You were told right. Who controls the plant? Who?

Jews are apolitical now?

Haha, faggot got the thread moved, probably reported every post replying to him. Well pack it in boys, there will never be another Ukraine war thread on /k/, lol

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hello faggots

>Enjoy HIMARS flattening St. Petersburg.
Pretty sure this is why they were against it, appears you made the point for them.
Uh, you asked who was second. Obviously the US is still numbah one. Why are NATO trannies so bad at reading and like thinking?
Lol.
Lmao.
I'm going to stop replying to retarded posts now.
You really can't talk about the US without discussing zionism and the banking cartels. Sorry, wish that wasn't important but it is. I don't desire to defend the "nation" as it exists now, I would defend the nation in terms of land and the true Americans (white people).
Accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being Russian makes you sound like a seething redditor, just saying.

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Oy vey shut it down

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