Why are leftists so obsessed with public transportation?

Why are leftists so obsessed with public transportation?

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Because they're told to be

Not a leftist but a normal person and certainly to the left of the GOP.

Public transit is good for the poor, the elderly, the disabled and children. Frankly it is good for everyone because MANY Americans are not very good drivers. Good for environment and business and city budgets as well.

it's the (((current narrative)))

Then why have Democrat stronghold states and cities failed to produce a single working example of this utopian pipe dream?

I mean in terms of transit I used Lansing public transit and Chicago public transit regularly with no problems. Idk what you mean by "utopian" about putting together a simple bus/train system for those who cannot drive

Theyre being driven to put all effort into making people live on top of each other. For a number of reasons. I think of which is to feel relevant. Cant have everyone spread out and move away because you can just fucking ignore their cancer.

Some don't have a choice so they have to cope and pretend they like it. I live in a liberal town where most people drive but it is possible to take the bus. I take the bus because I'm not allowed to drive. Every once in a while I see a new face but it doesn't last for more than a month because they get extreme nigger fatigue taking the bus. Given the choice of driving or taking the bus they will drive.

It is funny talking to them and asking why they stopped taking the bus. They usually come up with excuses like the movement of the bus gives them a headache or something when it's really just niggers.

don't be coy faggot, you know exactly what i was asking

They hate Whites and want to subject them to niggers daily

>Good for environment

lol

In reality, having 1 Wal-Mart serving a huge geographical area of car drivers, who can load up with 200 lbs of stuff once a week, is much much more efficient than having a dozen small stores in the middle of a city, which is necessary for public transit slaves being limited basically to what they can carry on their person.

Even leaving aside the need to drive a bunch of diesel trucks around in a city supplying these stores, rather than just one to Wal-Mart, and the combined spoilage leading to more stuff being thrown out, the duplication is massively energy-inefficient. Every small urban store needs to have its own lighting/heating/refrigeration. It is vastly vastly more efficient to chill one large cooler than 10 separate coolers.

A train is more efficient than 100 cars, but 100 actual humans living their lives with 100 cars is more efficient than 100 actual people living their lives taking the train

I literally don't. What is utopian about public transit? Its a basic service which many blue areas absolutely manage.

yeah no doubtful. even if its true the walmart manages to be slightly more energy efficient that does NOT mean thousands of cars magically become more energy efficient. Sorry

It's funny how not understanding how anything works is almost a prerequisite for left-wing belief. You think cars are Bad Polluting Machines and so if there are fewer Bad Polluting Machines then there must be Less Pollution. But, like most left wing "pro-environment" ideas, what is actually happening is creating more pollution, but hiding it from shallow thinkers by moving it a bit, either geographically or in time.

One major reason why Wal-Mart is so cheap is because a sbig box store is so massively, massively more efficient than a bunch of small stores that's necessary to serve the same number of people on foot. Go learn the basics of how trucking works, for example -- diesel trucks are very efficient while in motion, but get roughly 0.01mpg while accelerating away from a stop, and city traffic is 100% stop-and-go. Learn the relationship between surface area and volume and energy required for refrigerating an area. Maintaining one 30,000 cubic foot cooler at 2 C is infinitely, infinitely more energy efficient than maintaining 10 separate 3,000 cubic foot coolers, with 10 cooling systems. Wal-Mart buys in bulk and has economies of scale there, but a huge amount of their advantage is just the simple efficiency of the big-box setup, which is not only environmentally-friendly but is passed onto to the consumer in the form of lower prices.

And, of course, trains don't run for free. They still require energy and a nearly-empty train running at night is less energy efficient per human-mile than an equivalent number of people in cars.

Uh huh maybe you are right but again, DOUBT until you give me a source. AND also.....a train ir bus route can go to the walmart, dumbass. I use to take the bus to meijer. So I have no idea why you started trumpeting the values of walmart anyway.

>Uh huh maybe you are right but again, DOUBT until you give me a source.

holy fuck lmao how about you learn to google, instead of just sitting passively like livestock and letting other people give you your opinions? Go find out when a semi truck burns the most fuel. Go learn the relationship between surface area and volume for thermodynamics. If you learn things, you will know when someone is lying to you.

>..a train ir bus route can go to the walmart, dumbass. I use to take the bus to meijer.

And you will make 15 trips to bring back the same amount of stuff that Barbara Boomer did in one single trip, because she can load her SUV with 200 lbs of stuff and you are limited to a backpack. It takes energy to carry you there and back. And that's not even counting life-quality advantages, like how Barbara makes 1 Wal-Mart trip every couple of weeks, whereas you have to go 10 times to bring the same amount of the same stuff home. She only has to stand in line once every 14 days, assuming she's not just getting curbside pickup. Having a car is saving her hours a week.

>So I have no idea why you started trumpeting the values of walmart anyway.

Because it is an almost pure example of the massive efficiency advantage of a car-driving population over public transit slaves. The reason it is cheap is because it is efficient.

its not bad on homogenous high trust societies but niggers completely and absolutely make it unbearable to use
they also routenely trash the train/metro stations and like to mug people there

If the bus is going by there anyway they can pick up dozens of people, so unless 1 car uses up as much as many dozens of people do on that bus I don't think the car is carrying more.

Also "muh BARBARA BOOMER" convenience excuse goes straight out the window if Barbara is poor, disabled/elderly, or young. Or hell, really you need to account for all the many people killed by automobiles thanks to all the less-than-qualified drivers ew have on our streets

>Or hell, really you need to account for all the many people killed by automobiles thanks to all the less-than-qualified drivers we* have on our streets
user you need to understand the USA is a lot larger than any singular EU nation and comparing our armpit states to the best EU states isn't exactly fair.

>If the bus is going by there anyway they can pick up dozens of people, so unless 1 car uses up as much as many dozens of people do on that bus I don't think the car is carrying more.

user, the bus uses energy to move the people. It makes a bunch of stops. Moving mass from rest uses a bunch more energy than cruising at steady state, that's basic physics. Buses are not magic.

>Also "muh BARBARA BOOMER" convenience excuse goes straight out the window if Barbara is poor, disabled/elderly, or young.

What, it's even more important. The poor, elderly and disabled should be making as few shopping trips as necessary. If Barbara's 80, every hour she spends standing in line is a significant percentage of her remaining life.

I am talking about USA. I have zero experience with EU but drivers here, in USA (note the lack of memeflag) are OFTEN not qualified but still drive because they lack other options. Tens of thousands die every year, many more are injured or disabled

Uh huh show me that a bus uses more energy than 50+ cars which is what its replacing onm the road

> If Barbara's 80, every hour she spends standing in line is a significant percentage of her remaining life.
LOL you are not a serious person. if Barbara is 80 she should nto be driving. Period.

sorry forgot to drop my flag woops

>implying you can't build transit to the big box store, thus getting the efficiency of both
>implying the space near big box stores would not be far better utilized providing places for people to live near where they work/shop instead of endless miles of parking

I have a brother in law from the Netherlands and told me the hellish requirements one needs to own a vehicle. Displacement taxes, the fact he spent 2k+ on Euros just for a license. I live in Northwest Georgia and travel up a mountain every single day, torrential rainfall, sleet, snow, it doesn't matter. My commute is about 20 miles via Car. Please tell me how I could bike this in the southern heat. Alternatively, please give advise as to how we can tear up our infrastructure to allow busses or trains. The closest thing we have is the Incline railway and that's a meme tourist exhibit. (seriously Google it)

>can't read
see
>prove that accelerating a 30,000-40,000 lb bus from a stop, 50 times, to the store and back, uses energy!!
>prove that the bus doing this 10 times in order for me to bring back the same amount of goods that one single car trip can carry uses energy!

absolutely amazing lmao, you guys really cannot think beyond the surface

> if Barbara is 80 she should nto be driving. Period.

if Barbara is 80 she should not be making daily trips to the store

Anyway to get white people next to niggers

if the average person can't afford a car then they will be forced to use public transport which means coming into close contact with brown people. you WILL be surrounded by brown people and you WILL be happy