Remember when people used to make threads about how Western defense ministers are a bunch of women or trannies or...

Remember when people used to make threads about how Western defense ministers are a bunch of women or trannies or whatever, but Russia has this tough, mean-looking son of a bitch in charge of their military?
Then the war started and people realized that a) Shoigu has no military experience and probably only got to where he is by playing political games and kissing ass, and b) Shoigu is fucking incompetent?
Good times.

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no

normally you need a 3:1 advantage to even survive an incursion

he has done incredible damage with a 5:1 disadvantage in numbers, compared to the people advising the ukrainians he is a fucking ceasear

What the fuck is even going on in Ukraine? Are the Russians rolling through or are the Ukrainians kicking Russia's ass?

Genuine question.

Russia is fighting ukraine which has no women and trannies making decisions but generals used to the old soviet doctrine and equipment, the west has not been tested in total war for a long time, even against the towel heads the internal pressure was so big they had to pull back giving the victory to the sandal wearing Muslims, see the recent case of that whore PM of finland that bowled her eyes in publ8c over a little bit of criticism, imagine how these people will act if their cities were being bombed and their soldiers mowed down in the front lines, WW3 can't come soon enough, you euro faggots are pretty confident about throwing the whole europe and america against russia, i want to see america getting fucked by china, NK and iran while euro fags deal with russia alone, all without oil, gas and industry.

russia took an area and is fortifying it and the west is screeching that they lost because they're not moving the front until they pacify what they took on the advice of all authorities on war, it's a giant cope fest

also nato is directly involved now and certainly russia knows

Shoigu isn't in charge of actually running the invasion - that, presumably, is what Gerasimov and the General Staff are doing. Shoigu is the Minister of Defense, which means that his job is more to make sure that the invasion has everything it needs to succeed. It is part of his job to make sure that the invasion has enough soldiers to succeed for example, so being outnumbered 5:1 is not a good look for him.

Russia is just bombing Ukrainians to death by the truckload, but ukraine keeps sending more untrained farmers and taxi drivers to die.

Russia is liquidating the entire adult male population of ukraine.

user., America was able to wage a 20 year war abiding by crippling humanitarian laws 1/2 way across the world. China + Russia + Iran + etc. can not deal with an unholstered American military. We don't even need the Euros, but if they were fighting with us, we could supply them.

Thanks for the input.

All this is sad, though.

Bro come on. We lost that war. And that isn’t at all the same as fighting another conventional force.

US and all of NATO can't stop Russia from taking Ukraine and US couldn't stop China from taking Taiwan.

Russia alone would be a tough battle for the US, but US would win. If chinks go all in with Russia, Russia+China would beat the US.

If you call that a "war", 1991 iraq was already devastated from the brutal war against iran, and got fucked from a big coalition of powers, in 2003 the iraq military was in even worse condition and practically surrendered a few weeks into the war, and they had no economic and military support coming through their frontier like ukraine has now, but keep telling yourself that they're were the 3rd strongest army of the time, and across the world means shit if you have a hunderd bases surrounding the country anyway.

Fighting a conventional force would be in our favor, first because tactially, second because we could go full nigger on them, just like what we did in Desert Storm.

>we lost the war
And, nothing changed here at home, matter o' factly we grew our industries and became even more comfortable. We rearranged (not to say that any of this is good) the M.E. and changed it's future, we killed Bin Ladin.

user., this wasn't a war, this was a PR run with bullets. The NYPD has a larger budget than some of the countries the other user named. I honestly don't think a lot of you know of big Israel's attack dog is.

Russia is winning, Ukraine is losing territory and more importantly, men who can fight. The Russians were forced to back away from Kiev and have taken a shitload of casualties since the war began, but history shows that they’ve always been incompetent at logistics and communications.

They will come out on top, taking a big chunk of Ukraine with them. But unforrunately for the Ivans, the prestige of their military took a big hit in the eyes of the global powers, we now know just how badly things would go for them when you take nukes out of the picture.

Depends what you consider a win, if america actually tried to invade russia they would get fucked worse than Napoleon and the germans together, remember the US never won a war without another party making the heavy lifting, only against itself i guess.

>US and all of NATO can't stop Russia from taking Ukraine and US couldn't stop China from taking Taiwan.
Say it with me, BIDEN can't stop... The old guard can't stop... The elites too worried about their own skin can't ______

Still had home turf advantage...

>Shoigu is fucking incompetent?
Not a fan of Shoigu in the slightest but the invasion stalling isn't his fault.
Putin personally called the guy on the carpet in the first days of March and heavily reprimanded him for "being too rough" and "ruining his optic"s because the fucking cuck had got triggered by the Western media calling him a "fascist" over that fake Schlomocaust memorial strike story.

>All this is sad
What? Denazification requires the strongest of wills.

>Nothing changed here at home he says, as his country is overrun everyday with people who rape and murder their women, his cities descent to 3rd world level and trannies groom their children

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Complete non sequitur.

The hubris and naivette of the amerimutt.

every time it's a br flag
caralho

Same people who made decisions 30 years ago are directing the path america is taking now, your country has been a golem pupped for a long long time

>5:1
>winning
>bad look
??????

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would easily kick him in the face so it looks even meaner and more mongol looking. his basically the copycat of mercedes. this idiot is suckin oligarh dicks under the desk. just look at him, soviets are worst then poo poo pee pee biden the kid toucher. mma biden lavrow when ?