"The real minimum wage is always zero" -Thomas Sowell
Pretty much the only thing the minimum wage does is crush small business. If you're opening a new business and you have to pay your employees a certain amount that just gets higher and higher you probably wont be able to keep yourself open for long. All it does is ensure the big companies that have the money to pay minimum wage will prosper while you suffer.
Also affects inflation and price of goods, if the minimum wage is raised, it now costs companies more money to produce goods so they raise prices, making your 15 an hour now worth less.
>but muh living wage
Flipping burgers at mcdonalds should not be a constant job. You work up the chain to manager if you want to make it a career. You shouldnt spend your entire life at a fast food place or a factory, you gain experience and move up the job ladder. Its all about getting what you give. Society rewards you with money if you perform a task that helps society. Its why pilots are paid way more because they are vital to society, and why a cashier at mcdonalds isnt paid a lot.
Paying someone more money than they are worth is essentially charity, and should not be encouraged
>"The real minimum wage is always zero" >-Thomas Sowell Nigger economics understand. The minimum wage should be a living wage and anything else is just giving the work to whomever is willing to live in the lowest level of poverty. Contractors used to make enough money to support 2 kids and own 2 cars and a paid off house. Today it's a low paying job because Mexicans are willing to do it for $3/hr and live 9 to a one bedroom. Fuck your libertarian shit nigger.
Every time they rise it in California it still doesn't make a difference.
Charles Powell
>Flipping burgers at mcdonalds should not be a constant job Why? Your grandfather could make it as a janitor and own his own home. Flipping burgers used to be a job you took in the summer to graduate college without debt. Why should a low skill job not pay well? What kind of country allows someone working 40 hours a week to starve? >Paying someone more money than they are worth is essentially charity, and should not be encouraged Letting Jews rip people off in their paycheck shouldn't be allowed either. Not everything needs to be at the lowest possible fucking price. letting Jewish owned companies buy up all the houses because the wage is low is WEF tier
Juan Brown
It wasn't the minimum wage laws that did that. There were other factors beyond that that allowed people to live that type of lifestyle.
Asher Wilson
and hows the state doing right now?
Robert Brooks
Like the shit out in the streets.
Cameron Campbell
yeah the reason its a job beaners take now is because of inflation
Wyatt Walker
A higher minimum wage could have prevented it. We also need stricter immigration controls and tariffs but libertarians like OP never support anything that could cost the GDP a penny
Owen Gutierrez
Anything less then a minimum wage as living wage tied to inflation isn't good enough. You love Jews and Mexicans, yet hate whites. Why?
Joseph Bailey
Stupid fucking take every high schooler should be required to take 4 straight years of economics because some people can’t think past one step emotional arguments. Not every job is productive enough to be a living wage. That’s reality. You can call it unfair but if you’re thirsty you probably shouldn’t try squeezing water out of a rock. That’s because the Second World War had decimated Europes productive capacity and the rest of the world wasn’t even developed enough to have sweat shops. It was a unique point in history that greatly benefited the USA for a temporary period of time.
Lincoln Taylor
im no fan of the jew, but mexicans are alright in my bookwh4g
Luis Collins
Exactly. Most fags that argue about this care more about the emotional side of the argument than the other parts of it
Benjamin Cook
>Your grandfather could make it as a janitor and own his own home. No, he couldn't, because his only life skill was pushing a broom.
Jacob Evans
No it wouldn't. All it does it lowers the number of people employed. And that's what you miss about your statement too. Many of the boomers and the silent generation got their start in the job market doing simple jobs as teenagers. Such as bottle sorters, paper runs and cashier assistants. Jobs for the youth no longer exist. Of course many of them don't exist because of technology, but even so other entry jobs are done now by older workers because they are more reliable and have more skills. That's why I also said in California it doesn't work. They keep rising it and they keep calling for a higher minimum wage. They said they needed $10. Then it was $15. Soon it'll be $18 or even $20. It pushes up the wages for everyone which on paper seems great. But there's a cost. The higher wages is passed onto the consumers to pay for it. Higher prices, less service and less people employed. Ironically for many of things that libertarians are for would actually help reduce the cost of living.
Luis Carter
>Why should a low skill job not pay well? If a fucking dog can do it, why does it need to be a well-paid dog?
Aaron James
Minimum wage should be based on state income levels. NY min wage doesn't need to be the same as Idaho min wage. Simple.
Predditors can cope at my post.
Brandon Howard
>Paying someone more money than they are worth is essentially charity, and should not be encouraged nothing wrong with charity if they deserve it. the problem is with forced charity to people who don't deserve it, aka equity
Levi Long
how would someone deserve said charity?
Oliver Rivera
Deporting all illegals and foreigners, combined with high tariffs will naturally increase the demand for labor. No minimum wage necessary.
Ryder Phillips
Funny, when I opened my business, I paid $5 over minimum no problem, because I knew minimum wage attracts minimum effort. What does a minimum wagie care if they get fired? They'll go down to one of the dozens of places around here paying the same amount and be on the job by Monday, if not tomorrow. Paying more than that means people don't want to lose their job unless they can get a better one. I've had a lot of kids cycle through on their way up, but most of them did a good job while they were here.
Noah Martinez
He absolutely could, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Angel Wright
BUSINESS TIP; If you cannot afford to pay someone the Minimum Wage... you shouldn't have an employee and should do their work YOURSELF. If you can't, you never had a viable business to begin with so should do something else. Welcome to reality, nigger!
Connor Sullivan
gee I wonder why I get paid $19 an hr at panda express but I still cant afford rent?
Hudson Kelly
A lot of the big businesses that pay minimum wage are already getting charity. When all those Walmart wagies get on welfare because their job isn't paying them enough, that's government money going to supplement the corporation. They don't need to pay more because the tax payer covers them.
Liam Parker
you can certainly pay people more by your own volition, but having the government mandate it hurts people who dont have that luxury
Isaac Powell
I don't care what anyone says, minimum wage should be $26/hr if kept up with inflation. I've made $15/hr before and if I didn't have roommates, I'd have been homeless. That should not happen in "the greatest country on Earth".
I retired at 44 and will never work for anyone ever again.
Luke Nguyen
>Thomas Sowell Kill niggers. Behead niggers. Roundhouse kick a nigger into the concrete. Slam dunk a nigger baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy blacks. Defecate in a niggers food. Launch niggers into the sun. Stir fry niggers in a wok. Toss niggers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a niggers gas tank. Judo throw niggers into a wood chipper. Twist niggers heads off. Report niggers to the IRS. Karate chop niggers in half. Curb stomp pregnant black niggers. Trap niggers in quicksand. Crush niggers in the trash compactor. Liquefy niggers in a vat of acid. Eat niggers. Dissect niggers. Exterminate niggers in the gas chamber. Stomp nigger skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate niggers in the oven. Lobotomize niggers. Mandatory abortions for niggers. Grind nigger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown niggers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize niggers with a ray gun. Kick old niggers down the stairs. Feed niggers to alligators. Slice niggers with a katana
Thats why I am arguing that minimum wage is a bad thing. Small businesses cannot hire, and get crushed, and the people look for work cannot find work because nobody wants to hire
James Ramirez
>You work up the chain to manager if you want to make it a career. This reads exactly like a pyramid scheme. Inevitably, you will run out of managerial spaces and most workers will end up stuck underneath them. They need to live. So there are three choices: Either make sure that they don't starve by forcing corporations to pay them enough to live. Pay them a UBI so they can live. Or They will eventually revolt and kill the ones who exploited them. Perhaps it will be a right wing revolt, but odds are right wingers will have abandoned them and ceded control of the people to the left, as usual. Which means that the revolt will be leftist.
Jackson King
> Society rewards you with money if you perform a task that helps society. Ahahhahaahha this is the biggest lie ever. ALL THOSE HR roasties help with nothing society. And so is the case for many other useless jobs. There are a number of finite “good paying jobs “ unless you kill boomers, or anyone above the age of 50 to make space for good paying jobs
Michael Rodriguez
there are plenty of businesses to go around, and most jobs pay well, not just managerial positions
Jason Rivera
OP, you are right on target. They should be paid with food and water. That's more than enough for them
I think they should be allowed a limited 2 minute shower at work, right at the start of their shifts, along with a limited, strictly count down amount of raw soap. Then they should be provided with clean clothes for the duration of their shift.
Payment should be bread, Cheetos or any other form of high-sugar, energizing sustainance, and water/soda.
An important part of contracts should be that they have to stay at least 2 miles away from their workplace between shifts. They can lie down somewhere else
Kayden Watson
>there are plenty of businesses to go around Any business larger than a local garage has racial quotas. Basically, if they have an HR, they have race quotas. Businesses do not give a shit about experience. They want to enforce White genocide.
Julian Bennett
What's the point of even thinking about this? Even if 100% of the population were opposed to minimum wage, the kikes would still keep it around because it's what they want. None of these discussions matter while the kikes are still in charge, and if I were a conspiratorial man, I would wager that they want people having these kinds of kosher discussions. If they're discussing this shit, they're not discussing the kosher question.