Ukraine's top general Zaluzhny implies HIMARS made little difference to Russian logistics

no hardware outside of WMDs can change the outcome in Ukraine
and everyone in the West and in Ukraine at the top know this
they are sending it for other reasons

Based. Russia is not winning this war. They can cope and seethe all they want, but it will never be true.

How much do you think they should be moving for each 100,000 shells fired?

Over a billion shells were fired on the western front in WW1, and there was hardly any movement of the front lines

How long did it take Germany to go from Poland to Crimea?

They’re not firing anywhere close to that and their barrels are so warped it does nothing but till the countryside

>HIMARS is ineffective pls stop giving them to Ukraine

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Meanwhile America ruins itself. German will freeze to death. Over half of Frances reactors are off line and we are the only other winners.
This winter should see off all the shitty boomers and doley scum.

>2 more weeks and Kiev will fall

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Germany was at Moscow in less than the current special operation. Russia still hasn’t taken Spirne or Siversk.

Well, it 2022, so... You know, probably a lot less. The benchmark is the Invasion of Iraq. The Coalition went into the fight massively outnumbered and defeated their enemy in less than 28 days. Here we are six months later and the supporters of the second most powerful army in Ukraine are still coping.

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Shared misery is the closest thing Russians know to happiness

Liveuamap is purely based on ukrainian MoD claims, they had to "give" russia a big chunk of land couple days ago because ukrop general stuff announced the fall of a village far from their claimed frontline, lol.

it's almost like the Uragan and Tochkas Ukraine had were better than the Himars and all this bullshit is just another ghost of Kiev

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Yeah but i heard they finally got your dealer

>The benchmark is the Invasion of Iraq.

fucking kek,

Russia is winning. US is winning. China is laughing.

EU getting cucked.

Just keep going

I don't believe you. You're factually incorrect.

How long did it take von Moltketo reach Paris in 1870? How long did it take Britain and France to reach 100km into Belgium in WW1? You can find all kinds of extreme examples in history, because the nature of war changes with the circumstances and the technology being used in the war.

And Russia is still losing the war lmao. These things were never not going to happen. Putin rolled the dice, there was no coming back from this point. The world is rapidly changing. There is no stopping it, you can only attempt to shape it to your liking. If Russia gets raped in the ass while our globohomo leadership gets replaced by pragmatic men because of this conflict, it's a net gain.

The goatfuckers didn't have shit. Practically no AA, their tank rounds couldn't pen Abrams. Do the math. This isn't equivalent.

RARE

Imagine a fucking retard calling someone a retard, this is the map of 21 of may after mariupol fell vs today 23 of august, they only managed to capture a small section in luhansk in 3 months with high casualties

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Your own army does amazing coverage of the war and they said it was irrelevant.
youtube.com/watch?v=wSDP-CmwcNM&list=PL6Udnt8OH5-tuFBuYigic6mYE6_TfCqV7

its just as it has been with
>beyraktar
>m777
>nlaw
>javlellin
and so on pure propaganda for western audience
while cockhole continuee to steal funds

Rare

Iraq in 1991 had a top tier army with all the latest shit from Russian factories…and it got completely obliterated in one of the most lopsided wars in recent history. Meanwhile Russia only slogs and gets bogged down, in Chechnya, in Ossetia, in Ukraine. The Cold War myth of huge numbers of Soviet tanks sweeping across Western Europe was always a meme used to fundraise for the MIC

Iraq was in the top most powerful militaries in the world. At the time...

Iraq was internationaly isolated, Ukraine has the support of NATO. Iraq has shit equipment, shit doctrine and shit generals. Ukraine is much better in all respects.

What a retarded fucking war

A single nuke or even the concrete threat of nuclear escalation would end the war on the spot

Escalate this shit, once the real threat of nuclear war pops up, NATO will crumble to dust

Yeah, you fucking retard, they need more.

They only have like 20% of weapons they would need to evaporate the russkie army. This is widely reported and only faggots like you and dumb redditors that only read headlines would think

our army is a bunch of retards that couldn't find their own assholes with a map

>The benchmark is the Invasion of Iraq.
Why? Why not some other conflict?

How many invulnerable spy satellites and spy planes did Iraq have on its side? How many logistics and training bases outside Iraq did Iraq have? How much fuel and ammo did Iraq receive from abroad?

The 80s generation Soviet air defenses that Ukraine has were designed specifically to fix the flaws of the 60s gen air defenses that Iraq still had. Why is it a good comparison?

If Russia loses there will be no pragmatic men to take over globohomo leaders. They'll only be encouraged.

The allied offensives in WWI look good in comparison to Russia performance in Ukraine. The rate of advance was higher and they didn’t need to pay their troops bribes to advance like Russia does now

they have been moving
but its even easier to kill cockhole after cockhole

You're right, it's not equivalent at all, because the Russian Armed Forces is shit.

Want to go even further back and talk about Desert Storm, then? That was an even worse beat down that would demonstrate the appalling incompetence of the Russians.

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Only women and children gauge their actions on something as fickle as material "happiness" or feelings. Men act based on duty. To use a language you will understand, a man's happiness is to be right and Russia, this time, is unequivocally right.

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none of that matters, they are arabs, they have been losing wars for decades, even with theoretical better equipment

meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars

even the military has to have summer vacation OK

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this user is a homosexual who has posted about moving to SEA for ladyboys. There are screencaps

Wait wait, so HIMARS wasn't a wonderwaffle? Oy vey!

P.S. You realize the PR campaign for HIMARS was because the USA MIC needed at least one weapon that wasn't total shit to sell to third-world countries, right?

>Iraq in 1991 had a top tier army
ahahahahah, mutts really think this. Also the other user was talking about the invasion in 2003.
Iraq in 1991 had just left a massive war with Iran that decimated its armed forces.
>with all the latest shit from Russian factories
lol no

It seems quite weird to claim that a militay which didn't even have airborne early warning systems was one of the most powerful militaries in the world

Find me a modern conflict where an alleged military super power fought a conventional operation against a well supported adversary.

Surely the second most powerful army in the world, that is capable of defeating all of NATO, could prevail against these odds in a less pathetic way.

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Then why aren’t you in Ukraine fighting Zhou?
So has Russia…first European country to lose to a non European state in centuries…they only when wars when supplied by anglos.

why are we even supporting a non-EU non-nato member again? i don't care about this corrupt shithole at all.

Most of the world isn't like the US military and co.

who is your favorite Chinese tranny?

Iraq didn't have very many MIG29s and they used older soviet tank rounds that didn't pen Abrams. If you truly think a bunch of shit skins had a great army you are retarded. They folded like a cheap lawn chair.

Fast forward, Ukraine receiving more advanced weaponry and money than Iraq could have dreamt.

>could prevail against these odds
But RUssia is winning the war.

Its the jews. I hope it helps.

>Change of leadership after victory against Russia
Are you retarded? It would only legitimize the current crop of leaders. Support to replace them would only come from them fucking up.

>Surely the second most powerful army in the world, that is capable of defeating all of NATO, could prevail against these odds in a less pathetic way.
kek

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They were outranged and couldn't fire on the move. It was a turkey shoot.

you need to blow up several ammo depots a day, every day for half a year in order to cripple Russian logistics.