We should be very skeptical regarding the mainstream narrative regarding the Holocaust because Jews have a vested interest in pushing that narrative.
BUT
We should just blindly accept, without questioning or doing any fact checking, the massive "kill counts" attributed to Communism by capitalist propagandists. Even though capitalists obviously have an incentive to demonize communism, the greatest threat that the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, DuPonts, and all the rest of that filth ever faced.
The mainstream world sees communism as wrong but not evil, the same world sees national socialism as a unique horror that is infinitely worse than anything to ever exist and actively looks under their bed for it despite having not existed for almost 80 years.
We are not the same.
Ethan Anderson
both commies and nig-socs need to cope seethe dilate harder and 41% themselves YWNBAW statist scum
I don't believe those numbers either. Stalin was evil, the regime was oppressive, but to attribute 100,000,000 deaths to communism seems excessive. We have records of Stalin's executions (numbering like 700k iirc?), show trials, dozens of mass graves containing tens of thousands of people attributable to the Holdomoor, gulag records etc. Holocaust all we have is he said she said, forgeries, and post-war show trial confessions.
Landon Rodriguez
Communism was funded by US bankers. There is a war between capitalism and communism, but not a war between wealthy elites and communism. The true elites are already wealthy enough to never need another dime. They have a vested interest now in keeping wealth where it is which is exactly what communism does. Communism has the largest wealth disparity between rich and poor and the middle class will cease to exist.
Lincoln Richardson
The opposite is the case. From the very first moment socialism appeared on the historical scene, the rulers of the world, the Rothschilds Rockefellers, etc, did everything they could to destroy it. First invading with 14 countries in 1919. Then funding Hitler to try to take out the Soviet Union again. Then waging constant subterfuge and espionage warfare during the entire Cold War era.
>Communism has the largest wealth disparity between rich and poor and the middle class will cease to exist. I refuse to believe someone can be this stupid, you must be a glowie. You really think the US has less income inequality than the Soviet Union? The richest Americans have countless mansions, yachts, live in unbelievable luxury. Meanwhile there are Americans working multiple jobs just to feed their families. In the USSR the elite had modest perks, but nothing like the elite in the West. Pic related proves my argument.
>Stalin was evil, the regime was oppressive Wrong. Why do most people in the former USSR have a positive view of Stalin then?
There were no "show trials". Members of the government tried to kill Stalin and allied with Trotsky in the process. International observers said the trials were in full accordance with world legal norms.
Holodomor was a famine caused by drought, crop rust, and kulaks burning grain and killing livestock. Why would Stalin want to decrease his population when higher population leads to more industry, more soldiers, a better overall position for the Soviet government?
Jose Wood
According to the DNC\WEF\Pentagon\Israel\MSM Communism is good and has never committed any crimes.
Look at how many Biden cabinet picks are Maoists. The Pentagon praises Chinese communism at west point.
It is now clear that the inner circle of the Obama White House, including the former President himself, were coordinators of the entire Russia hoax from inception through the Mueller inquisition.
A coordinated conspiracy run from the Obama White House
That all elements of the senior departments of the major agencies of the United States Government were illegally weaponized to destroy a political opponent. A coordinated assault on the constitution and the Republic.
To sabotage an incoming President. Overthrow the government of the United States. Abuse their authorities to openly frame, smear and seek the destruction and criminal indictment of a duly elected President using the evidence they themselves fabricated.
Clapper said that everything he and John Brennan had done prior to and during the 2016 election was explicitly on Barack Obama’s orders.
Isaac Campbell
>According to the DNC\WEF\Pentagon\Israel\MSM Communism is good and has never committed any crimes. Literal schizophrenia.
Post a single pro-Communist statement put out by any of those organizations. In reality, they constantly shill anti-communist propaganda, demonize communist countries, and undermine communist movements. Israel's #1 enemy is North Korea.
>Look at how many Biden cabinet picks are Maoists. The Pentagon praises Chinese communism at west point. Name a single Maoist Biden cabinet member.
You're right about the rest. Trump is too independent for the global capitalist elite, thus we see what's happening.
Eli Sullivan
>North Korea Lmao
Gabriel Collins
Go look at the communism wiki page. It treats deaths under communism as an archaic academic debate. I can purchase a USSR flag on Amazon right now. Not so for Nazi Germany. Socialist parties are prevelant all over the west. Most young NPCs have communist sympathies. Communism is unbelievably retarded, made by a Jew of course Karl Marx. Pushed for by Jews (Bolsheviks were mostly Jewish, CPUSA was traditionally extremely Jewish, attempted commie coup in Germany 1919 was overwhelmingly led by Jewish leaders etc.). Regardless of that, you will grow out of this phase. It's critiques of capitalism are fair, it's solutions are retarded. National Socialism still advocates for private property, but under a pragmatic strong central government oversight that looks after the common good, while still allowing individual genius to flourish. You will find out why the idea of an economic democracy ("worker ownership of the means of production") is fundementally retarded (as is a democracy as understood in the west). One MUST allow for the individual personality to flourish--this is where all great culture and achievement ultimately stems from, not the mediocre masses which communism worships--but never at the expense of the broader society. National Socialism, instead of dividing the nation along class lines, seeks to unite them. Communism had it's chance. Big fucking chance, and has always failed. As for Holdomor, iirc, it was at least in large part caused by Stalin genociding/cleaning the Kulaks? Another "enemy of the people".
Nathan Evans
The commies themselves denounced Stalin and exposed his crimes while the supposed atrocities committed by Nazi Germany were largely enemy war propaganda used to justify the destruction of that entire county.
Xavier Sanders
The Nazi's
>always failed Stalin raised an impoverished, war-ravaged country to be the #2 world economy, then defeated the Nazis, then became a global superpower, then invented space travel and nuclear power plants. The failure only happened when traitors like Gorbachev came to power and intentionally brought down the country.
Thomas Ramirez
Those were the Kruschevite revisionists, and the supposed "exposure" of Stalin's alleged "crimes" was totally fraudulent. Grover Furr exposed them as entirely made up of lies.
China never went along with this, neither did Albania, neither did many other countries and movements.
Andrew Carter
The Nazis' claim at creating some more just society was fraudulent. At the end of the day, you still had millionaires living in fabulous luxury, alongside coal miners doing back-breaking labor for very little pay.
Aaron Gonzalez
this seems more convincing than >every time people went in the gas chamber we used screwdrivers to screw in planks of wood so people couldn't beat down the gas chamber doors
Germany was a degenerate inflation-ridden shithole when Hitler took office in 1933. In a few short years they were the most prosperous country in the world, while the rest of the world was going through the great depression. Few years after that, Hitler's small Germany was so powerful, it took the combined efforts of the United States, Soviet Union, and British Empire to bring her down.
Bentley Edwards
Only because you're easily duped and have poor analytical intelligence. Solzhenitsyn was a fraud and a liar. His wife admitted his works are novels, literal fictions.
He also was a fascist who wanted to overthrow socialism and install Tsarism. Somehow it's some kind of "atrocity" that he was imprisoned? He should have been shot, but Stalin was too soft-hearted towards such enemies of the people, unfortunately.
Tyler Clark
>we Kill yourself. >jews r bad BUT Kill yourself. >pol pot was not so bad Kill yourself. Anyone who supports mainstream or hip views without question need to die.
Grayson Lewis
The Nazis literally saw you as sub-human kek, why would you simp for them?
Justin Adams
You're forgetting that the Nazis had massive help from the most powerful and richest people on the planet. Ford was a Nazi sympathizer who did a lot of business with them. William Randolph Hearst. George Bush's grandfather. A huge portion of the British "nobility".
After the war, FDR was about to launch an investigation into the business dealings between the Nazis and prominent American bankers, businessmen, etc. What a "coincidence" that he died in mysterious circumstances (with Stalin to the end asserting he was killed by British intelligence).
Robert Fisher
>We should be very skeptical regarding the mainstream narrative regarding the Holocaust because Jews have a vested interest in pushing that narrative. No, we should be skeptical of anything in which the data doesn't add up. The jews using it as a psychological manipulation tool is technically irrelevant.
>We should just blindly accept, without questioning or doing any fact checking, the massive "kill counts" attributed to Communism Basically everyone, including virtually all the non-Marxist leftists, agree that the Bolsheviks slaughtered countless millions of people, so it's not "capitalist propaganda". The post-Stalin Bolsheviks openly admitted to Stalin's atrocities and as soon as they could, distanced themselves from the man. Even if the numbers were overinflated (the data doesn't show that at all, but hypothetically), and we reduce them by 50% (which literally everyone would agree is too much of a reduction), that's still 50-60,000,000 dead people in the most horrific conditions.
>The opposite is the case. From the very first moment socialism appeared on the historical scene, the rulers of the world, the Rothschilds Rockefellers, etc, did everything they could to destroy it. The Soviet Union was subsidized by loans and subsidies from the West for it's entire existence. American industrialists literally built the Soviet Union's industrial base, and international finance bankrolled the Bolsheviks.
Ian Rogers
Hitler saw the Aryans as the superior race yes. Particularly of course the Germanics, which is not unreasonable as Germanic people, of which the Germans form it's core and zenith, are singular in their ability as drivers of culture and civilization. That much is an objective fact. Nowhere in Mein Kampf, Hitler's Table Talks, or in his speeches did he ever say anything about the German subjugation of lesser races.
Jace Nelson
>Stalin was too soft-hearted lmao
Brody Watson
Have you ever been to a Post-Soviet state? Take of your meme flaggot
>agree that the Bolsheviks slaughtered countless millions of people Capitalist propaganda, never happened. The data doesn't add up, to use your lexicon. Where is the evidence for those alleged 60,000,000 dead? There is literally zero, it's completely fabricated by propagandists.
If you prove that the Bolsheviks slaughtered 60,000,000 people, I will send you $200 on paypal. Go ahead.
Charles Sanchez
He was so despised that once he died, all his misdeeds were revealed to the world. Everything is documented.
Documentaries focusing on the JQ angle of bolshevik revolution: >Hervé Ryssen – The Jews, Communism and The (((Russian))) Revolution (completely in french but has subtitles) files.catbox.moe/x1c46p.mp4 >The Jewish Crucifixion of Russia files.catbox.moe/ko0nsd.mp4
Yeah I have, that's actually what made be a communist, talking to old people about life before and realizing everything I was told about communism was a lie. It just wouldn't be possible that so many people would praise and be nostalgic for an allegedly "brutal" and "failed" system.
Andrew Wilson
>wanting your old government back, the one that doesn't kill you, is fascist you haven't convinced me of anything
>''historical research, or scientific research.'' She contended that it was, rather, a collection of ''camp folklore,'' containing ''raw material'' which her husband was planning to use in his future productions Writing down your buddy's campfire story isn't historical research, but all fictional? Still think you're a bloodthirsty murderer that wants another 80 million to die for some greater good.
Jason Gomez
The mainstream media simps for communism. Even during stalins time the msm lied about conditions in the USSR to make communism seem wonderful and not the kike lie it really is.
Ian Hernandez
Despised by who? The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, DuPonts, and the Nazis. Trotskyists. British intelligence. But not by his own people. Stalin is still loved today all over the former USSR.
Samuel King
>The data doesn't add up Okay. Show it to me. Show me how the narrative surrounding the Holodomor, the Gulag system, the Great Leap Forward, and all of the other massacres and atrocities admitted most often by other communists, "doesn't add up".
Chase Hill
also >after their divorce
Nathaniel Walker
>Oi vey, the jews hate communism! We should do communism to show them real good, goys! They don't bother to do anything with the commie numbers because they already destigmatized communism. You could have an actual 600 million dead and it wouldn't matter because "it wasn't real communism". >Real Communism would be totally fair this time, goys! It wouldn't continue to be a tiered society where we are at the top while the majority starve!
Don't get me wrong, the corruption of capitalism and the infestation of any means of human governance... all end up looking very similar. Two or more tiers, and the wealthiest tier having the largest noses.
>No, we should be skeptical of anything in which the data doesn't add up Yep, quite so. In this case, it does help to detract from people seeing the main problem of communism being the rich "elite" who control all of media and government, hoarding everything while the commoners get nothing, and then turning the commoners against other commoners.
Vlad of Walachia had the right answer to this problem.
If those same people who grew up in the 'good' times of communism 70s-80s grew up in America instead, they would much prefer the West. Post-soviet states are mostly far worse now than under the late stages of the USSR, particularly those that became Westernized like the Baltics.
Asher Flores
>The greatest threat the Rothchilds/Rockefellers etc ever faced >Which why they had the US side with Russia in WW2 Here's the photo you meant to use OP
No, campfire stories are not reliable stories nor do they constitute historical research.
Most people's lives in the USSR got better with Communism. Illiteracy was eliminated. The country was industrialized. Medicine and education was extended to even the most remote areas, where before people lived in medieval conditions.
Someone like Solzhenitsyn was obviously an enemy of the people, in that his work to overthrow socialism was directly harming the interests of the people of his own country.
Show me a single time the mainstream media simped for communism. I'll wait.
Ethan Sanders
RUSSIAN STATE PROPAGANDA JOURNALIST OUTED AS SEXUAL PREDATOR
Caleb Maupin is an infamous Marxist journalist working at RT. He has made videos calling for unconditional support for the Russian state, has pushed pro-war propaganda since the start of the Ukraine war, and is funded directly by the Kremlin. Former comrades of his have come forward with a slew of allegations against him, including sexual abuse, psychological manipulation, theft of money, putting comrades in dangerous positions, housing comrades in dingy motels, and using funds from his organizations to pay for sexual favours from members.
>"Over the years he has subjected members of CPI to various forms of abuse and exploitation. He pushed his sexual desires on members who had considered him to be a leading comrade. He brought his sexual impulses into political organizing. Caleb pushed a member out of CPI and its predecessor Students and Youth for a New America after she made clear that she would not do sexual favors for him. Caleb paid a member for sex who he knew was economically desperate, and then went on to push them out of the group and slander them. Caleb Maupin has also targeted people in their teens with manipulative cult tactics in an effort to exploit their labor so that he can build himself up off their hard work and sacrifice, and then would go on to slander them behind their backs if they didn’t do exactly what he wanted." medium.com/@cpimembersspeakout/caleb-maupins-former-comrades-speak-out-his-abuses-must-stop-4167bc1c2c
There's no way to quantify the deaths attributable to capitalism. When people ask how many deaths communism is responsible for, it's not unreasonable to say "tens or even hundreds of millions". When people ask how many deaths capitalism is responsible for, it's not unreasonable to say "all the rest".
Ayden King
You're the one making the claim. The burden is on you to prove what you're asserting.
Provide any evidence at all that would lead a reasonable person to conclude that the Bolsheviks killed 60 million people.
Blake Lee
>people's lives in the USSR got better with the industrial revolution I fixed that for you comrade
Aaron Evans
This is a fair point.
Jacob Evans
Shut it down!
Jaxson Adams
What about the lend-lend send to the basedviet union?
Thomas Lewis
Jews continue to lie about Stalin's supposed anti-semitism to this very day. That was to conceal their mission of creating the state of Israel.
I meant to say except the Baltics, because of their Western values
Daniel Hall
>Most people's lives in the USSR got better with Communism. >people's lives in the USSR got better with the industrial revolution Quite fixed indeed. Most peoples' lives got better in every developed nation in the 19th and 20th century due to the very significant leaps in technology and industry. Especially when it comes to sanitation, heating, and food production.
