European and Near Eastern origins

post a link to the video. I'm pretty sure the scholarly consensus doesn't support those theories anymore. Even the pioneer of the Anatolian theory has stated that he was wrong recently. Today scholars and academics agree that the Indo-Europeans were from the Pontic Steppes in the area of Ukraine and Russia.

>Even if it's true user, they thrived in europe.
Im not arguing that, Europe was the forge that transformed the people, even genetically, as they took in indigenous european genetics of the primarily I haplogroup hunter gatherers as well as absorbing early neolithic farmers. In europe is where the IE people truly took root, likely for a variety of reasons, perhaps compatibility with the indigenous people they mixed with and a natural affinity to the climate, as well as certain geographic advantages europe produced that allowed for strategic protection from invasion
Though even the Q haplogroup mongol/turks are close cousins to the R haplogroup, both originated originally from Siberia, among the Ancestral North Eurasians

No the modern scholars consensus is overwhelmingly that R1b originated south of the Caucus, this is supported by genetics, and the linguistic model as well supports the origin of PIE south of the caucus as the oldest branches of the language tree, older than Yamnaya are there. Also this tracks well with the movement of cattle that can be tracked as being spread by R1b and originally domesticated by them, and we have pinpointed the likely location this domestication event took place as virtually all cattle are descended from less than 100 domesticated in a specific region of the near east. If you mean R1a, yes they came from the region you mention, but the modern belief is that R1b is where the PIE language emerged from and it was them moving north and merging with R1a that carried the language into europe

youtu.be/8hnU0pM_Xcc
eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml

haplotype has no significance to racial identity, what matters for for racial proximity is the autosomal relationship btw ethnicties.

Is there any other examples of a people living primarily (not just on the peripheries) in a mountain range successfully creating a conquest state? Mountains tend to isolate similar people (creating disunity), they slow the spread of ideas, they don't support a large population, or the ability to herd animals.

This is why invasions tend to either come from the flat Steppe land (which supports herding populations and allows different tribes to unite on occasion), regions with a lot of arable land (fertile crescent), or regions next to water (peninsulas/islands) which supports fishing. Mountainous regions don't have any of that.

It makes sense for a larger civilization to take control of defensible mountainous terrain but it's unlikely for a large civilization to originate in a mountain range.

Pinpointing a single origin for our race is impossible.

Not in the mountain range but in the highlands at the base of a mountain range is optimal, mountains produce rivers which drain down to a low point/basin forming a larger river likely draining into a lake/sea/ocean creating essentially a natural road system/irrigation system with access to mountain valleys and slopes from transhumance grazing, that also protects your livestock, as well as access to minerals in the mountains and providing a fairly protective defensive barrier in at least one direction

>racial identity perhaps above national or religious identity
There is no possible way to achieve this. Race has no value to people. People are more likly to bond with people that think and act as them then they are with peoole that look like them.

>R1b Haplogroup that composes the vast majority of YDNA haplogroups for people with Western European origin, originated in Eastern Anatolia/Turkey and the Armenian Highlands region
take this comedic nonsense to or

Maybe not the direct origin, but from the point at which cattle were domesticated you can, which then lets you easily trace their movements, this was also the trigger for a massive expansion as cattle allowed massive stores of calories to have moved anywhere with grass and water

Try to actually refute the point and see what happens ;)

Only WHG EHG admixture matters.

If you're talking about the proto-Indo-European speakers living in the Caucasus before moving north to the steppes then I guess it is plausible since the Yamnaya that spread Indo-European languages were genetically almost half CHG. and the oldest recorded Indo-European language was also in that part of the near east. But if you're trying to say that Indo-European languages were spread to Europe and Iran from the Caucasian near east / Anatolia then there isn't much evidence for that. The steppe Yamnaya theory is more credible since there is more evidence to back it up. The Yamnaya and their descendants used domesticated horses and chariots to expand from the steppes and into Europe and central asia (& Afghanistan-Iran).

the opposite is the truth, there's extremely little to no evidence R1b has anything whatsoever to do with the near east and overwhelming direct DNA evidence it's an east European stone age lineage
nothing to refute because there is no actual evidence provided whatsoever
R1b was all over the place from 12000BC north Italy and Balkans to east European HGs like Volosovo and Baltic HGs
the extremely scant post bronze age R1b from the neat east is entirely a subset of ancient east European variation
your turn to actually show actual evidence

This is false. GTFO please

there is literally only one ancient R1b that may be not European and it's the first branch to split, PH155, an ancient north Eurasian lineage that eventually popped up in bronze age Tarim mummies from China and eventually got picked up at minor frequency by some Turkic groups, that's it

Nah that's Semitic lands. West of Anatolia makes the most genetic sense.

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the cradle of civilization: Sumer, wasn't Aryan. It was populated, ruled and founded by Neolithic Iranian Farmers who spoke Sumerian.

This.