A journaliast breaks down the conditions Ukraine must accept before the peace talks can start

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1. Ukrainian army must lay down arms.
2. All weaponnry must be transferred to Russian territory.
3. Ukraine must denazify.
4. War criminals must be transferred to Russia to stand trial.
5. Ukraine must recognize Crimea as well as the regions of Donetsk, Lugansk, Nikolaev, Kherson, Zaporozhie, Kharkov and Odessa as Russian.
6. Russia has total control of implementation of any part of this agreement and has the right to react with military force to refusal to comply with them.
7. Ukraina must repay the money spent both on the special military operation and the restoration of destroyed infrastructure located within the new borders of Russia.
8. US, UK and other contries that provided support to Ukraine must be the guarantors for Ukraine's compliance.
Booba unrelated, but I highly recommend you to watch Saki.

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im sure the ukraine is excited to sign this treaty

In order to make demands, you must first achieve military victory and make those demands from a position of strength.

Good luck to 'em with that. Kek

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>voenkor-sladkov
So, basically wet dreams of a literal who.
'kay

>tranime
Sounds like you have bigger problems to worry about.

Uhuh. Well I am sure they will get right back to you on that. March on Russko!

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Where is this lady from

Lmao retard. Upon achieving military victory you no longer make demands, you just take what you want how you want, because enemy has been defeated and can't physically stop you. Enemy ceases to exist as sovereign entity upon achieving military victory. Refer to what happened to Germany after WW2.
Demands are made before that as offer for enemy who isn't yet defeated but not in good position to cut losses but still save themselves. Scale of demands depends on existing balance of powers.
If Ukraine surrendered day one, it would have probably got away with having to acknowledge Russian ownership of pieces it lost in 2014 and being forced to stay neutral. As you see, as of current balance situation allows for much fatter demands. However, it still keeps its sovereignty if it surrenders. If military victory is achieved, there will be no longer such a thing as the Ukraine.

>journalist
You must be new 'round here.

>If Ukraine surrendered day one, it would have probably got away with having to acknowledge Russian ownership of pieces it lost in 2014 and being forced to stay neutral. As you see, as of current balance situation allows for much fatter demands. However, it still keeps its sovereignty if it surrenders. If military victory is achieved, there will be no longer such a thing as the Ukraine.
Holy coped-up retard

All fair except 8. I don't want anything to do with any of this shit.

The way you are faring on the battlefield you will be poor and broke before any victory is achieved. Best Russia can do is claim some sort of victory and end hostilities. Maybe you get to keep Crimea. Or keep hacking away until something gives way and we are all truly fucked. Either way this bs war is all on Russia.

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>The way you are faring on the battlefield
Last time I checked Russia was successfully invading with outnumbered force and inflicting 4:1 casualties on defender despite it was supposed to be the other way around. Are we talking about the same war? Are you unironically huffing swine farts?

>Ukraine says they won't accept any negotiations until Russian troops leave Ukraine
>Russia thinks giving conditions to negotiations matter
lel

I don't know, are we? You are bogged down in a WW1 style artillery trench war. No significant gains made for months. Economies everywhere are bleeding. Russia's casus belli for this war is nonsense. Go home and save some face while you still can. Your ultimatums will be ignored.

The fate of Russia will be decided by Finland.
If Finland invades, it could take over Moscow in 2 weeks and the Ruskis can't do anything about it.
It's Sanna's call.

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Those don't sound like terms ukraine would accept 2bdesu, especially since Russian troops aren't even in Odessa.

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>meanwhile

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Here are the more realistic terms:
>Putin must step down and surrender to be tried at the Hague
>Russia must fully retreat from inside Ukraine's borders including Crimea
>Russia must resume its gas and oil shipments to Europe and
>Russia must return the hundreds of billions of assets it looted from Ukraine

Lots of war reparations there that need to happen before we can have peace.

>3. Ukraine must denazify.
What does that even mean?

Those terms dissolve any sort of sovereignty.
No army, no weapons, loss of territory, probable jailing of the entire government, crippling debt to Russia, and the catch-all term of "denazification" that allows Russia to renege on the deal whenever they want.
It's basically an offer to become a Russian-controlled satellite state, which would happen anyway if Russia wins. This deal is a waste of paper its printed on.