Christianity is the Backbone of Western Civilization

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Christianity is the Backbone of Western Civilization

Joshua Clark

ITT we discuss the message, teachings and history of The Holy Bible

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People try to claim Christianity is at cause for all the globohomo, posting the faggy tik tok pastors and such, but those are all things from before the time of Christianity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele
>had Eunuch priesthood
>the priesthood, Galli, are refered to as a third gender
>the priesthood thought their emasculation provides them with powers of prophecy

Or here a more extreme version:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna
>non binary priesthood called gala
>Men took on female names, songs refered to them in a dialect reserved for female characters
>Sumerian proverbs talk about the prieshood having anal sex with other men
>Ishtar was said to have 2 serventskurgarrū and assinnu which dressed in female clothing
>Several akkadian proverbs around the prieshood engaging in gay act regulary
>Akkadian hymn describes Ishtar transforming men into women

>Gary Beckman states that "ambiguous gender identification" was a characteristic of a category he refers to as "Ishtar type" goddesses

What they call progress is actually what Christianity has done away with.

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August 21, 2022 - 10:32

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Jayden Sanchez

Christianity is a religion of weak cucks and Hitler rightfully opposed it, albeit in secret.

August 21, 2022 - 10:34

Cameron Hill

>Christianity comes from Judaism
Its actually the other way around.
Back in the day there was no Judaism, just the faith of Abraham and later the Israelites. At the time Jesus came there were 3 main sects, The Essenes (The only ones native to Judeah), the Sadduccess and the Pharisee (both being not native to Judeah).
The Pharisee are the Edomites (descendent of Amalek which the Israelites were told to genocide and which descent from the Canaanites which worshipped Moloch and such) which previously were forced to convert. However they really liked their old customs which were unlawful and thus they created the Oral Law. You know how in Court a Jew will use semantics, grey areas, loopholes and other pilpul to argue they didnt break a law which they never followed completly ignoring the intent behind the law? The Oral Law of the Pharisee is a guideline on how to do that with the OT Law.
This is the group of people pretty much all quarrels Jesus had was with and they were constantly rebuked for this by him, God himself, for being hypocrites, a brood of Vipers, even the children of the devil. Even their name describes them seperating themselves from the original
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
>"Pharisee" is derived from Ancient Greek Pharisaios (Φαρισαῖος),[8] from Aramaic Pərīšā (Hebrew: פְּרִישָׁא), plural Pərīšayyā (Hebrew: פְּרִישַׁיָּא), meaning "set apart, separated"
So by all means the Pharisee splitted themselves off from the original faith which became known and was continued through Christianity and thus by all practical means was Pre-Christ-Christianity.

This Oral Law of the Pharisee then after a few 100 years got written down in the (Babylonian) Talmud starting what is now known as Judaism. So its not that Christianity is based on Judaism, but that Judaism is a collection of blasphemies and herasies of Christianity

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August 21, 2022 - 10:35

Brandon Evans

Reminder that we can trace the rise of the western world directly to the obediance of The Law of God and see it crumbling not even a decade after we started completly ignoring it.

>13If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
anti faggotry

>3Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4because they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and He will swiftly destroy you.
against racemixing. Now often its claimed this merely means to not marry someone of another believe regardless of race however
>12 "Beware, my son, of every kind of fornication. First of all, marry a woman from among the descendants of your ancestors; do not marry a foreign woman, who is not of your father's tribe; for we are the descendants of the prophets. Remember, my son, that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, our ancestors of old, all took wives from among their kindred. They were blessed in their children, and their posterity will inherit the land.

>8When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
speaks against mass immigration

>1“Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber.
against illegal immigration

>1No man with crushed or severed genitals may enter the assembly of the LORD.
against trannies

>19If you are harvesting in your field and forget a sheaf there, do not go back to get it. It is to be left for the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
basically natsoc

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August 21, 2022 - 10:35

Andrew Ward

The meaning and significance of the destruction of the Temple

I assume we all know how important the temple is for the jewish religion, and some also might know about the supernatural events around the temple after Jesus crucification
archive.is/7Y2KZ
>Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years [30AD] before the destruction of the Temple the lot did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white; nor did the westernmost light shine; and the doors of the Hekal would open by themselves…”

and how previous efforts of rebuildingt the temple also seem to have been divinely thwarted
archive.vn/UmIoh
>Disaster when the Jews tried to rebuild the Temple during the reign of the anti-Christian pagan Roman Emperor Julian the Apostate

and while probably all of you are aware of the destruction being a sign of Gods anger towards the Jews, I rarely see brought up how the destruction of the temple exposes the Jews as fakes and hypocrites.

But lets start at the beginning. The wages of sin is death which has to be paid in blood, meaning no matter how small our sin it condemns us to death. Now God however gave us a way to redeem ourselves, to show how we are sorry for our deeds, sacrifices. We show we are sorry for our sin by giving up something we value a lot and which is important to us. Livestock being just that, and important source of food we need to survive, which we give up to show we are sorry and to remind us just how costly our sins actually are. These sacrifices, to be done on the altar of God and in front of the ark of the covenant, as well as having many other appointed dates where the priesthood (and noone else) has to bring an offering before it for the sake of all of Israel.

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August 21, 2022 - 10:36

Dylan Mitchell

The Jews however eventually figured "why should I obey Gods law when I can just sacrifice to redeem myself?" and so you get to the mentality which declares that they are holy as long as they behead a chicken once a year and wave it over their head.
Instead of obeying the law of not working on Sabbath they invent the "Kosher Light Switch", or the "Eruv" to extend their homes and this way circumvent the law instead of obeying it. Now these are newer practices, but the mentality staid the same.

Essentially, they thought, and think, they dont need Christ to save them from their sin, nor do they need to obey the law, they can just sacrifice their way out of it.
However by then destroying the Temple he made the jews unable to commit the sacrifices and redeem themselves. By their own traditions and oral law they created to claim to be sinless, they are now eternally guilty of every minor sin they ever committed. They had no choice but to accept Christ or declare the whole faith and scripture as illegit or continue as before unable to ever be absolved of their sin, their own created traditions and law eternally condemning them.
The jews, unable to admit their wickedness, blasphemies and hypocracy chose the latter options, making on the spot up some new laws and traditions explaining why they can still sacrifice despite lack of Altar, and thus showed the whole world that they dont care about God, his law, or anything really except for themselves and their traditions that enable them to declare to be better than everyone else

August 21, 2022 - 10:36

Aiden Harris

In many cases the bible plays into the narrative of the different pagan myths, in Europe and across the world.

The bible actually doesnt deny the existence of the different gods. It just says that (most of them) they are not good and non of them are to be worshipped as they are below the most high. They are even directly mentioned:
>12On that night I will pass through the land of Egypt and strike down every firstborn male, both man and beast, and I will execute judgment against all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD.
All across the world there are numerous cultures stating how "people" came (down) to them and brought them knowledge and some new crafts and subsequently ruled over them and often there is a direct lineage claimed from these "gods" on which they claim their ruleship.
Now the Book of Enoch says exactly that, the fallen angels came to earth, they shared knowledge which in turn corrupted us. And they mated with our women. Here the account from Genesis:
>1Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
[...]
>4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well, when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
>mighty men of old, men of renown
kings and rulers, the children of the fallen angels.

Additionally to all this we have different stories of the (fallen) angels relate to that of the different gods, Michael for example correlates heavily with Jupiter/Zeus/Thor/Baal Haddad, Lucifer correlates with that of quetzacoatl of the aztecs and prometheus and somewhat Enki. Satan, which likely is Lucifer after the fall correlates with Moloch and Cronus. Gabriel I believe could be Mercury which is Hermes and seen as equal of Thoth

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August 21, 2022 - 10:37

Juan Davis

What happens to us after death?
First I went and looked up exactly how the afterlife is described in OT and NT, which is like the following:

Sheol (OT)
>Below the earth (Genesis 37:35, Genesis 42:38
>Deep and down below (Deuteronomy 32:22, 1Samuel 2:6, (1 Kings 2:6+9, Amos 9:2, Job 7:9, Job 11:8, Job 17:16, Proverbs 15:24)
>Place of the dead (Genesis 37:35, Genesis 42:38
>Can be entered alive (Numbers 16:30-33, Psalm 55:15)
>Has entangeling cords (2Samuel 22:6, Psalm 18:5)
>Not able to return from (Job 7:9)
>Has Gates (Job 17:16
>Possibly connected to Abbadon and the bottomless pit in revelation (Job 26:6, Provers 27:20)
>No mention of God in it, and noone can praise him from there (Psalm 6:5)
>Has anguish (Psalm 116:3)
>Never satisfied (Proverbs 27:20, Proverbs 30:16)
>Barren (Proverbs 30:16)
>Consuming fire (Proverbs 30:16)
>Something one wants to avoid (Psalm 30:3)
>Large appetite (Habakkuk 2:5)
>Can be avoided (Proverbs 15:24)
>Is unrelenting (Songs 8:6)
>"Steals the sinners" (Job 24:19)
>The wicked and the nations that forget God return to Sheol (Psalm 9:17)
>Faithfuls soul will not be abbandoned to Sheol (Psalm 16:10)
>Eager to meet wicked, great equalizer, a bed of worms and maggots (Isaiah 14:9-11)

Hades (NT)
>Down below (Matthew 11:23, Luke 10:15)
>Has Gates (Matthew 16:18)
>Place of the dead (Luke 16:22-23)
>Rightous get send elsewhere upon death (Or are put in a seperate area from the unrighthous and unfaithfull one) (Luke 16:22-23)
>Other (dead souls) cant traverse into or out of Hades (or region of Hades) (Luke 16:22-26)
>Faithfuls soul will not be abbandoned to Hades (Acts 2:27 [referencing Psalm 16:10 relating it to Sheol])
>Jesus holds the keys to Hades (Revelation 1:18)
>Follows Death (the Horseman) (Revelation 6:8)
>Releases the dead at the end to be judged (Revelation 20:13)
>Gets thrown into the lake of fire together with Death (Revelation 20:14)

August 21, 2022 - 10:37

Ayden Young

There is additionally Gehenna, the place where judgement takes place, described as unquenchable fire (Mark 9:43) where the soul is destroyed, relating to the second death
biblehub.com/greek/1067.htm
This is what people think off when they think of hell, but this isnt eternal torture either.

So on this we can assume that both, Sheol and Hades are the same thing and merely different language on the same thing. This both is what the KJV calls hell. However from this follows that Hell is not eternal but only lasts until Judgement Day.
As such the story, if I got everything right goes like this:
Eventualy shit will get really bad and God comes in to BTFO evil. Then the faithful are ressurected becoming the leaders and priests in his 1000 year kingdom. After this reign Hades will give their dead up, the 2.ressurection, and they will be judged according to their hearts (Romans 2:14-16) Then Hades and death are thrown into the lake of fire as well as anyone not in the book of life (meaning that Hades, death as well as the one judged to be too evil getting destroyed, the second death). Then a new Earth and Heaven Will be made (Revelation 21) and everyone lived happily ever after.

The eternal punishment is reserved for Satan, the false prophet, the beast and those that took its mark and worshipped it
>9And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heavena and consumed them. 10And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
(Also Revelation 14:9-11)
So there is Sheol/Hades to await judgement, Gehenna where judgement happens at the second ressurection and the soul destroyed, and the eternal torment

August 21, 2022 - 10:38

Eli Cruz

We are meant to love everyone unconditionally. But if your child is about to harm himself, dont you stop it and discipline it?
>10Our fathers disciplined us for a short time as they thought best, but God disciplines us for our good, so that we may share in His holiness. 11No discipline seems enjoyable at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it yields a peaceful harvest of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
For the same reason the pacifistic and passive version of Christianity that commonly taught everyhwere is contrary to all that is preached. All throughout the OT God punished the evil and discplined them, Jesus chased out the money changers from the Temple and in the end will destroy all evil.
You need to view the sermon on the mount from Gods perspective. We constantly sin against him, insult and anger him, if he wouldnt turn the other cheek we would be long gone.
>23Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Lord GOD. Wouldn’t I prefer that he turn from his ways and live?
If I constantly take revenge in the name of justice the family/friends will avange him for which your people will avenge yourself back and will continue to do so until eternity.
The only way to break this cycle is to make a sacrifice of yourself and forgive, forsake your rightful claim for the sake of starting an improvement. Eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.
We should never act out of anger or hatred, but that does not mean to completely forsake punishment.
>But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
We can only forgive and turn the other cheek if we are the ones who are transgressed, only then we can forsake the punishment for the sake of mercy. If someone is about to murder another, you are in no position to forgive the murder and as such are required to take action

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August 21, 2022 - 10:38

Parker Williams

On our responsibility for our family and race, and what Jesus meant when we should love him more than our family
In Timothy we are told
>7Give these instructions to the believers, so that they will be above reproach. 8 If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
so to serve christ is to serve provide for your household. However Christ tells us
>34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
>36A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
>37Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me; 38and anyone who does not take up his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

How can we unite this together?
Care for those who you are responsible for, but put Christ above everyone. This means when someone in our family sins or promotes such that we are meant to stop them. We are meant to point the sword (that is the word of God which we are told is like a sword) onto our family, and rebuke them or get them back on the right track. You are meant to put the truth above everything, even if quarrels in the family happen because of it and they may cast you out (the households divided)
>15If your brother sins against you,c go and confront him privately. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’d 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector

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August 21, 2022 - 10:39

Xavier Clark

We can also draw from Matthew
>1“Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

>3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Our responsibilities for rightousness is with ourselves first. We are meant to get our own shit together before we occupy ourselves with that of other, then we get our family on track, then our friend circle, town, country the world.
We cant punish others for things we do ourselves without being hypocrites. So as a Christian and especially as the head of a household would be to disciplin your family
>10Our fathers disciplined us for a short time as they thought best, but God disciplines us for our good, so that we may share in His holiness. 11No discipline seems enjoyable at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it yields a harvest of righteousness and peacec to those who have been trained by it.

also Luke 14
>25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. 27And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
speaks about those who are following Jesus on his travels and spread his words, as they wont be able to see their family anymore as they will be prosecuted for the testimony and returning to them would put them at risk. He is telling them that they need to give up everything for this path they are about to go

August 21, 2022 - 10:39

Jordan Murphy

Modern Jews are not the descendents of Judah of the Bible.
Their story begins with Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. He had a quarrel with Jacob, Jacob fled and in the meantime Esau took canaanites as wifes
>1This is the account of Esau (that is, Edom). 2Esau took his wives from the daughters of Canaan: Adah daughter of Elon the Hittite, Oholibamah daughter of Anah and granddaughter of Zibeon the Hivite, 3and Basemath daughter of Ishmael and sister of Nebaioth
These and their descendents are the known as the Edomites. Among the Edomites there are the Amelek
>12Additionally, Timna, a concubine of Esau’s son Eliphaz, gave birth to Amalek. These are the grandsons of Esau’s wife Adah.
which later became the enemy of Israel and are seen as their eternal nemesis.

This is who they are, but how did they become known as the Jews, the descendents of Judah and Israel?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
>The Edomites first established a kingdom ("Edom") in the southern area of modern-day Jordan and later migrated into the southern parts of the Kingdom of Judah ("Idumea", or modern-day southern Israel/Negev) when Judah was first weakened and then destroyed by the Babylonians, in the 6th century BC.
The original ones were conquered by Babylon and carried away. The Edomites settled there and took things over, and after the original Judahites returned they fought and eventually
>They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them, among others, to Judaism
Notethat "Judaism" isnt here the modern Judaism.
Somewhere in the meantime the Pharisee were founded whichs tradition is based on the oral law which became the talmud and very likely was influenced by babylonian teachings the Judahites brought back and is the foundation of modern Judaism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
>The Pharisees preserved the Pharisaical oral law in the form of the Talmud

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August 21, 2022 - 10:40

Ryder Scott

from Flavius Josephus
documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/0037-0103,_Flavius_Josephus,_De_Bello_Judaico,_EN.pdf
>2. For there are three philosophical sects among the Jews. The followers of the first of which are the Pharisees; of the second, the Sadducees; and the third sect, which pretends to a severer discipline, are called Essens. These last are Jews by birth, and seem to have a greater affection for one another than the other sects have.

so the closest relation the kikes have to the israelites is through Esau who mixed himself into the canaanites

Esau originally had the birthright to take over the tribe as a first born. However after a day of work on the field he went inside and asked his brother for something to drink or eat, for which Jacob demanded Esaus birthright. Esau agreed, and thus got what he wanted and Jacob got the birthright from Esau. However after this Esau wanted it back, Jacob didnt want to return it, and thus Esau parted from his family, joined a canaanite tribe that became known as Amalek (the Israelites nemesis) to wage war on Jacob/Israel. These eventually (likely with a couple others mixed into) became the Edomites which are todays Kikes. And to this day they still demand the birthright back from Israel (The white man). Their hate of whites is actually envy, they want what we have. Thats why they undergo plastic surgery to appear more european, take on germanic last names and yiddish is even just some fake german. They try to genocide whites so that they can take their position of chosen people they believe they inherited from Esau, without anyone else being left to rightfully claim that position.

Other than the kikes however Esau made up with Jacob/Israel again eventually, but (((they))) refuse to follow the lead to this day.

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August 21, 2022 - 10:41

Elijah Wright

Some threads of mine on various subjects with alli have

Ancient History
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/220438991
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/226425485
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/380206391/

Nazi UFOs and Hollow Earth
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/231626009
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/336764261/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/356712611/

the occult principles behind 9/11
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/175292781
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/185365200

False Flags (9/11 included but not as detailed)
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/227420233/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/310277205
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/380819867/

NASA being lying pieces of shit
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/242477618
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/337820145/

MKUltra and other mindcontroll
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/243077973
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/310246564/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/349878452

Pizzagate (ctrl + f "hogg" or "paddock" dor the parkland shooting or vegas shooting)
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/209615408/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/220106093

Satanic and Occult Elite
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329595999
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/340697713
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373356373

Christianity
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/378584691/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/379626955/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/386035672/

Gnosticism
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/232973385
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/233384563

Also i made a blog with all this stuff having the info in a better order
knowledgeofancients.blogspot.com

And if someone is interested I made a Matrix and Discord server some while ago since the threads were shut down all the time. People on there are autistic but knowledgable
matrix.to/#/!rbXhBlSYGiTuJJycYT:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

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August 21, 2022 - 10:41

Juan Hernandez

Reminder:
Almost all the anti christian standpoints of Hitler come from tabletalks or göbbels diary, both being fake in at least part
tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13507486.2018.1532983
web.archive.org/web/20200315030200/http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
web.archive.org/web/20190827005529/http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2011/01/goebbels-diaries-are-fake.html

everything he said openly was pro christ, even if anti church, so the question is was Hitler honest or lying like a kike he hated so much?

>Without a doubt the chancellor lives in faith in God. He recognizes Christianity as the foundation of Western culture
-Cardinal Faulhaber

As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic Church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were like.
>I don't put race above religion,
but I do see the danger in the representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am doing Christianity a great service
-Hitler

Mein Kampf
>And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
>I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.

wrong

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August 21, 2022 - 10:42

Asher Thomas

Catholics have a bunch of crypto paganism involved
Mary as the Queen of Heaven is found among various godesses of antiquity, mostly venusian fertility godesses
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_(antiquity)
Maries title as Mother of God puts her in the place of one of the various mothergoddesses which often are seen as the source of creation (those who birthed creation).
Also as queen of heaven it puts her in the place of Ashera
Praying to Michael is essentially praying to Zeus (I go into the angels=pagan gods angle in a bit)

Also some other paganistic customs we see commonly practice within christianity even though it doesnt seem to originate at the vatican.
Did you know that "Santa Claus" is 666 in Gematria? "Santa" is even just an annagram for Satan which is fitting as its falls on Saturnalia, where as Saturn would be Satan. Saturnalia, is a feast where the roles were symbolical reverses (the owner becomes the slave, or you might say that Satan becomes God, they exchanged presents too. Santa, the guy with the beard fits depiction of saturn/chronus, Santa was together with Krampus who ate naughty children and Saturn too is known to eat his children. But this is also the time where the winter solstice happens, where the sun is "dead" for 3 days to then rise up again
Cutting down and decorating trees too is mentioned as a pagan practice in the bible

Another example is easter, falling close to the spring equinox where pagan celebrated their fertility cults, celebrating that the world awakes from its death (winter), comes to new life and becomes fertile again. And what do we have pushed upon us? Eggs and Bunnies, fertility symbols

However just as the Vatican is subverted by Jesuits so are the protestant churches by Freemasons and Rosecrucians. On the Orthodox I cant really say, but they too spread some pozzed messages

August 21, 2022 - 10:42

Joshua Butler

Flat Earth is not biblical
creation.com/isaiah-40-22-circle-sphere
the infamous "circle of the earth" verse is just a mistranslation. the word used is "חוּג" or "chug/khûg" which translates to
>class, group activity ; group, circle (of people) ; (geography) tropic, sphere
>sphere

and while we are at it, the earth being 6000 years old also isnt biblical, its merely around when the story of Adam and Eve starts, and furthermore the word translated as "day" is "Yom" which can mean hour, day, week, month, year, or any undefined amount of time. 2 Peter 3:8 even says
>8Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
In pic related for example it shows that what is translated as "The world was formless and empty" that it actually said "became formless and empty" indicating there happened something before Adam and Eve to make it so. When later then Cain is cursed to wander the land, he fears being killed by OTHERS, even though he is the first born of Adam and Eve meaning there have to be other people around already.
I believe what happened was that the fallen angels (like anunaki) created humans already, the darker races. Then God eventually came along and made people in his image which came to be the line of Noah, Shem, later Abraham, the Israelites which actually are the whites(Will get to that). Thus the mark put on Cain turned his skin dark (will get to Cain being the first Nigger too) to make him appear more like those that are around already.
The Bible merely focuses on this bloodline and thus leaves out stuff happening before it, not saying there never was anything before.
Then eventually the flood happened due to all the degeneracy.

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August 21, 2022 - 10:43

Cooper Rivera

there were likely a bunch of cycles we went through believing the old tales. the bible alone implies a time before adam and eve, then the time from adam and eve to the flood, and then from the flood to today even though im not sure if the flood really counts as a beginning of a new cycle or merely got the ongoing one on track. i like to think there will be 5 cycles total, like how in alchemi the world is made up off the 4 elements plus spirit, each cycle working through one of those points which if the aztecs are right about the 5 suns means we are in the last one right now
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Suns
>Nahui-Ocelotl (Jaguar Sun) - Inhabitants were giants who were devoured by jaguars. The world was destroyed.
>Nahui-Ehécatl (Wind Sun) - Inhabitants were transformed into monkeys. This world was destroyed by hurricanes.
>Nahui-Quiahuitl (Rain Sun) - Inhabitants were destroyed by rain of fire. Only birds survived (or inhabitants survived by becoming birds).
>Nahui-Atl (Water Sun) - This world was flooded turning the inhabitants into fish. A couple escaped but were transformed into dogs.
>Nahui-Ollin (Earthquake Sun) - We are the inhabitants of this world. This world will be destroyed by earthquakes (or one large earthquake).
note here is the last cataclysm that happened through water, like the flood and the other 4 elements, water, fire, earth and wind also brought destruction. the Jaguar sun may be the spirit as that was the only case something was destroyed by something alive, something with a spirit. however personally i believe the spirit is what we are working through right now, but well.

However, assuming the biblical timeline is accurate, the flood wasnt the cataclysm 12,5k years ago structures across the world seem to hint at (Göbekli tepe, pyramids, sphinx, angkor wat)seem to hint at as it would be roughly 3k years ago. However the cataclysm before the flood was a rain of fire which fits the comet narrative quite perfectly

August 21, 2022 - 10:43

Wyatt Myers

Also we should look at some terminology used to name the gods.

El likely just means "high" or powerfull" and elohim (plural of El) is the group of supernatural beings that are that, high and powerfull, and once they fell and LARPed as gods (annunaki, likely egyptian and aztec gods too) elohim became knows as gods
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elyon
> ʾĒl ʿElyōn is usually rendered in English as "God Most High"
meaning that either el or elyon is most high, and El is likely high and elyon "most high" or "highest"

God occasionally is called with Elohim, which makes people claim there are multiple Gods in the bible, however there is something called the majestic plural
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
Basically, to signify someones outstanding position in a field you turn the designation into a plural. the master of masters in a field would be called with the plural masters, same for the highest of the high, the elyon of the elohim being called elohim. In hebrew you recognize the majestic plural by the plural designation when its used together with a singular verb or adjective which is always the case when elohim is mentioned in relation of the one God.
gotquestions.org/majestic-plural.html

calling God Elohim then means he takes a special position among the elohim which are his angels. now this also relates to some other verses
1The LORD answered Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Uses Elohim here again) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.
stating how moses got the special position among all highs to the pharaos. he most certainly didnt make Moses into multiple gods showing that Elohim is commonly used in Singular as well.

So „el“ is just a designation of something „high“. RaphaEL, MichaEL, GabriEL

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August 21, 2022 - 10:44

Adam Clark

Similary we have "Baal"s, where as Baal just means "Lord"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
>Baal (/ˈbeJəl, ˈbɑːəl/),[1][a] properly Baʿal, was a title and honorific meaning "owner," "lord
There were many, earthly rulers called Baal, but also the heavenly, the different deities, all declaring themselves to be Lord.

Also "Melech" meaning King
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melech_(name)
Or ""Malak"/"Melek" being Angel being likely the source for the name of Moloch/Molek, considering that ancient scripts dont have vowels, making them all MLCH or MLK as well as showing that "Angel" and "King" share the same root.

Now we have God, he wants to reveal himself and the guy comes up saying "Who or what are you?" and since God is from beyond this world there are no terms of this world to describe him. Thus he uses earthly terms in distinguished ways. People are led by kings? He says "I am the King of Kings". They have Lords over them? God tells them "I am the Lord of Lords", they worship the Elohim, the fallen angels, the high beings, he tells them "I am the most high, El Elyon/Elohim of Elohim" using familliar terms in distinguished ways

A similar example we also find with the sumerian terminology. In Genesis 6:2 the angels are called "ḇə·nê- hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm" or "Sons of (ḇə·nê) "The" (definite article, "Ha-") God ("Elohim")
biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/6-2.htm
The God being distinguished from the rest. In the sumerian pantheon there is Anu as creator God, the equivalent of Ha-Elohim/El Elyon, and the other deities are the Anu-Naki which means "Anus off spring"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki#Etymology
like the sons of God

These texts here is a really good description how the Bibles fits that of other Pantheons and shows the uses of "Elohim"
thedivinecouncil.com/DivineCouncilLBD.pdf
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/01/the-bibles-many-gods

August 21, 2022 - 10:45

Cameron Bell

To add:
We see in Genesis 6 how the Sons of God , ḇə·nê- hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm" or "Sons of (ḇə·nê) "The" (definite article, "Ha-") God ("Elohim") came and mated with our women.
biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/6-2.htm
They are often claimed to be descendents of Adam but we have
biblehub.com/bsb-strongs/psalms/82.htm
>God presides in the divine assembly; He renders judgment among the gods:
[...]
>6I have said, ‘You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.’7But like mortals you will die, and like rulers you will fall.”
saying that the Sons of the most high (Elyon, being another title for God like Ha-Elohim is) being in the "Divine Assambly" which is basically the council of gods within various myths, much like the Olymp (ever noticed how God too was met by Moses on a mountain, and the mount Zion being really important?)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Council

So the Sons of Ha-Elohim/Elyon in Genesis are those sitting in the council, and they came to earth and mated with woman according to Genesis 6.
This fits perfectly too into the story of the book of Enoch where the rebelling angels came to earth and mated with human women and taught us bad stuff

Aquinas too said
>In this way, therefore, between us and the highest God, it is clear that they posited four orders, namely, that of the secondary gods, that of the separate intellects, that of the heavenly souls, and that of the good or wicked demons. If all these things were true, then all these intermediate orders would be called by us “angels”, for Sacred Scripture refers to the demons themselves as angels. Footnote The souls themselves of the heavenly bodies, on the assumption that these are animated, should also be numbered among the angels, as Augustine determines in the Enchiridion

August 21, 2022 - 10:45

Matthew Jenkins

The unification of the polar opposites is something that stretches itself across many cultures. Be it the marriage, uniting male and female, often dressed in black and white, resulting in the magic of a new kid being born. Or be it the solar eclipse uniting sun and moon together. In the egyptian mythology osiris dick (male) that gets eaten by a fish (female) (pic), or the Washington Monument (a dick, male) standing in the vesica pisces (female). The 2 pillars, Boaz and Jachin which stood before Solomons Temple and represent the sun and moon, and again the polar opposites. Sol, solar, sun. mon, moon. Sol-o-Mo(o)n. Even the "Star of David" is representing the male and female being united with the opposing triangles.
There is NO Star of David, it is the Seal of Solomon and possibly Star of Remphan, Solomon used to commune with other spirits after his 700 wives tempted him. They called it Star of David because David is seen as a good king and thus tried to make this black magic symbol seem good

In case of the star we have the triangles that also additionaly symbolizes the 3, or with the 2 triangles the 33
All good things come in 3, the holy trinity, 3 nails used to crucify jesus, he came back from the dead on the 3rd day
33, 3 plus duality, good and evil, male and female (the "star of david", which originally is not a jewish symbol depicts the 33with 2 triangles coming together, the male and female energies coming together.) it is believed where polar opposites meet magic/miracles happen and especialy unification of male and female is a holy event in pretty much all cultures which creates the miracle of life, trannies are a perverted version of this most likely uniting in one body what god seperated mocking him and his creation
Jesus died on the 3rd april 33ad at the age of 33 at 3pm
Counting all the connections and connectionspoints including the hidden one on the tree of life/kaballah gives you 33. the number is also associated with gods promise

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August 21, 2022 - 10:46

Michael Gray

Some insight into the opposite doctrines, Satanism.

satan (saturn) meant something like "obstacle". everyone had his own satan. someone who incites him to do bad things, a bad habbit, an addiction, anythinghe should overcome. But then there also is THE Satan, Ha-Satan.

6 is the number of man, and his weakness. greed, egoism, egocentrism, all the materialistic desires, and i believe of this plane existence in general (the earth is tilted 23,4 degrees, or if you count from the other direction 66.6 degrees, life, on this planet at least, is made of carbon, the 6th element, with 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. 6 directions in the material realm, north, south, west, east, up and down, 6 sides of the cubes. Think About how molecules and icecrystals form in hexagonal shapes. saturn being the 6th planet with hexagon on its northpole). 666 is going over the top with the materialistic desires, pursuing and desiring only those and making you follow the path of satan.

The black cube of satan is a symbol for this material, 3 dimensional realm, and the time we fear is running out, which will let us die, and which causes us to do harm to others in order to lead a better life ourself. by thus the black cube also symbolizes time and death without either we wouldnt have these earthly desires causing us to do evil.
The 666 could also stand for the dimensions of the cube, 6x6x6, entrapping us in the 6, our weakness and temptations.

Our sole puprose, as i believe it, is to overcome (our) satan, proof we arent easily corrupted wether satan is just a symbol or a real entity. So while this world isnt evil itself, this realm of existence kind of makes the corruption a lot easier. When people worship satan, they dont worship some deity or enthity (well, some do that too). they worship this material world, the materialistic egoistic desires, and themselves

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August 21, 2022 - 10:46

Lucas Phillips

Pic related. those 7 circles are called the seed of life.
One interpretation i saw is that its meant to symbolize the creation week, or symbolize the same as the creation week does in the bible
The center being conciousness, that expands to the circle. The conciousness then moves to the border of the circle where it expands again creating the second circle and so on until you got the seed of life. the 6 days of creation around the 7th one, God, the seed of life or whatever you want to call it.
By connecting the points of intersection you gain the (black) cube, as above mentioned symbolizing the material world and as such Satans rule.

I have to say here that the 6, and all these patterns are commonly seen as a positive symbol as it is the blueprint of creation of life, but its only the material part of this, and according to the Bible the source of temptations, the Satan's, which we should work on overcoming with

So in this light atheism is low key satanism as both are about the material, about power, wealth, the flesh.
Christianity is about rejection of the flesh and embrace of the spirit. Where christianity tells you everything is God, thus you yourself too and everything else it means everything is connected to you while satanism and atheism teach seperation. no underlying connections and thus seperation leads to worship of the self, and only caring about the ego.
Where satanists and atheist desire to be blessed in this life and having it comfy christianity tell you you will have it hard in this life, prosecuted and attacked for doing the right thing, so you may have delight in the next live instead

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August 21, 2022 - 10:47

Ayden King

Satanism is about the rejection of God and his values, embracement of his teachings.
>19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; 20idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
>22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Also all the stuff God forbids throughout the bible, from faggotry to racemixing, and general degeneracy, is what satanism is all about, complete egoism, materialism and hedonism So Satanism is embracement of all the degeneracy that God forbids and which the kikes push and and enduldge in.
By allying with Satan you ally in any way you ally with the kikes.
At the foundation of all satanism there are a bunch of ultra retarded SJW whose entire philosophical basis is that God is a tyrannical fascist and a bigot for not allowing them to stick their dick where ever they want. God demands selfmoderation and aspiration to become something great. (((they))) believe these laws, instead of guidelines and advices for prosperity and a good life, are chains and limitations holding them back from doing what they want, from their self fulfillment, from basically sticking their dick into every hole they can find. That is the foundation of Satanism, forsaking Morals and laws so you can be a degenerate piece of shit, living like an animal according to the flesh, living as the BEAST
So in the end its mostly abn4vd8out "muh dick"

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August 21, 2022 - 10:47

Zachary Cruz

On the existence and purpose of Evil.
Many ask "If there is a God and he is good, then why is there evil?" This is what im going to explain.
For true virtue to arise from a deed there must have been a choice to not do the deed. For some action to be truely good it is necessary that can you not do it, a possibility to choose wrong. From this possibility free will is created, the abillity to choose wrong and against our creator. So Evil is nothing God has created, but by giving us the chance to commit it he gave us a chance to do good and be virtues. Now he could stop us in our evil ways any moment but that would be as good as not giving us free will to begin with. God wants to create something good, and that requires us to actively choose what is good, choose to be with God.
For this we are put in this world to be given a chance to learn of good and evil, realize that Gods law is good and just, admit our errors and actively choose goodness over evil and God over ourselves. We can do this through 3 ways:
-Having faith: Just trust God to tell you the right thing
-Burn yourself on the fire: Touch the fire and learn that its hot, endulge yourself in sin and realize the ruin and misery it brings
-Learn from others: See others burning themselves, ruining their lives in sin and choose to not commit the same errors.
We doubted, we ate the fruit, and now have to learn of good and evil, and as evil cant exist in heaven we are put into this sandbox world where we can not destroy anything meaningful.

In the Eden story this creation of free will is depicted by giving Adam and Eve that one rule they could choose to obey and be virtous and good, or break the rule and do wrong. As such the tree was necessary for Adam and Eve to excercise any form of virtue, goodness and obedience

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August 21, 2022 - 10:49

Jaxon Morgan

The next question is usually: "Why was the serpent allowed to tempt Adam and Eve?"
For this I believe the story of Job is the most telling when we, instead of taking Job as a man we take him as a symbol for mankind as a whole.
Mankind/Job was loved by God, and he was rightouss. Then Satan said that Mankind/Job just loves him for all the good things God gives them, and that he/we would stop caring when things would go south. So to prove Satan wrong he is allowed to take our good things away, to tempt us and try and make us fall from faith. He brings poverty, illness, famine, natural disasters just so that in the end Job/Mankind is still there and praising God.
You also need to know that there is a kind of Christian Pantheon (Which I go deeper into in a bit). God appointed the Angels, the Sons of God (Ha-Elohim/Elyon), over the nations to rule and lead them and judge them justly (He himself taking care directly over Israel). Going by pagan mythology originally Satan/Saturn was the one appointed to lead this "Divine Assembly". Satan took then the role of the adversary, trying to judge us as guilty which a third of the angels followed. However Michael/Jupiter defeated Satan and his army and took his place as the leader over the council. Stripped of his power he and the third of the angels that followed him now still work on proving themselves right.

August 21, 2022 - 10:49

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