Be natural and abundant

>be natural and abundant
>used for thousands of years all across the world
>great electrical and thermal insulation
>flame retardant
>used in everything from brake pads and construction to curtains and handkerchiefs
>man made competitor comes along
>suddenly it's giving everyone cancer
>population grows weaker, more subservient and more degenerate as its removed.
Why were they afraid of?

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Coal is also cool. But inhaling it is literally cancer.

Dunno if asbestos is cancerous and dangerous as a passive material, as in insulation. Tearing it down should be with masks tho.

I'll give you a bump. It's possible. A couple of years ago I would have called you a schizo but last few months I've been having a weird mild allergy kind of reaction to polyester, so tried to buy some cotton sheets. They're almost impossible to find and they're crazy fucking expensive, like $200... For basic cotton sheets. Yes really. They're actually trying to turn cotton into a luxury item and replace it with cheap polymer type fabrics.

It probably is toxic as hell. It’s just such an amazing mineral. That’s always the trade off. In my tradefag experience, the better a product performs; the more toxic it is.

Just looking at it in its raw form is mesmerising

There are true win/win materials that are borderline magical like hemp, porcelain, borosilicate. Aluminum is pretty far up there too.

Asbestos hysteria is retarded. Yeah people who worked in hazardous factories and breathed it in on a daily basis for years, have had health issues. But you don't need to put your house in full lock down and have specialists in hasmat suits come in, because you found 30 cm of an old asbestos pipe, when renovating.

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Prove it, eat a kg of asbestos and lets see

Sulfer is a great material, it is also toxic. People just need to stop being retarded with safety gear. I work in health and safety, I like to show up in places to catch people not wearing respirators, hard hats or eating in a location with toxic chemicals. Always great to rip the shit out of them and the managers then write them up for a nice bonus.

lot of old roofs here are asbestos. they look ugly as fuck but they are definitely a better insulator and not a fire hazard like some materials. i never see roof guys wearing any sort of respirator or mask when ripping the old roofs off.

>suddenly
Even the ancient Greeks knew it killed people, and was a problem.

Its not. Only when the fibers are disturbed, become airborne, and are inhaled

>eat it and lets see

What a retard. I have tons of chemicals in my house that would kill me if I drank them. What is your point

didn't they also add lead to their tea as a sweetener though

Lead acetate in wines.

kek, never heard of that one. i only know the romans stored wine in lead, and transported water through lead pipes. although to be honest i believe the latter isn't quite as bad.

>polymer
yes more BPA to make you gay.

Go inhale some then

water in lead pipes is okay *after* the inside of the pipe has been completely covered in minerals. Until the chemical composition of the water changes, and strips the pipes of the mineral layer, exposing the lead. This is what happened in Flint Michigan.

source, preferably primary/ancient greek literature?

Yeah, still pretty bad though because you're going to get lead at the start no matter what you do. Continuing using old pipes can be fine as you said depending on the water but building anything new with lead on this day is pretty stupid imo.

I also wonder how modern plastic plumbing will stand on the long term. Pex to have some great benefits over copper. Cheaper, holds very well, easy to install, lower thermal losses etc but i am still sceptical to having my drinking water in plastic pipes. Copper also kills bacteria.

I think you can just google asbestos and go down to history. Its well known that certain professions was more or less a death sentence in the long run, being a miner has always been bad and asbestos mining was no different.

>I also wonder how modern plastic plumbing will stand on the long term

As you should. How could we predict long term success to plastic as a material for pipes? We need better solutions/materials.