Ok so this is fucking HUUUUUUUGE right now in the various space sciences communities: The gravity-centric model of the universe (the theory that requires dark matter, dark energy, the Big Bang, black holes, etc.) is getting bodied by the new James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). The increased resolution makes helically twisted filament pairs and braids plainly evident all over the place - braids not predicted by Big Bang cosmology. Yet such braids are expected to be common in Electric Universe / Plasma Cosmology, and have been explicitly predicted by them for decades.
The first implication is that the universe is far more interconnected and 'alive' than would be implied by the gravity-centric model (and both the "big bang" and "heat death" hypotheses are also wrong ipso facto). Not only that: our brain's neural network structure is replicated in the superstructure of the universe at intergalactic scale. That's because a) both are electric, and b) both have similar functions. Form follows.
The implication for *that* touches on one of the deepest existential questions in all philosophy.
The political interest in pushing the incorrect gravity model over the correct electromagnetic model is stupendous. The truth about how the universe actually works is so much more beautiful and elegant than the garbage gravity lies they spin. Theirs truly is a dark web of lies, bullshit and deceit, while the "electric" model is elegant and evident everywhere in nature - at *all* scales.
TPTB can't have their plebs be anything but downtrodden demoralized slaves who feel absolutely no connection to the Divine.
Here is a video that summarizes current evidence as provided by the recent James Webb Space Telescope images: youtu.be/xWY1mRIz9EE
So, in other words, God definitely exists, as we've known for thousands of years. Wake me up when something new happens
Dylan Garcia
Bump
Michael Bennett
Jews will have it all disproven by morning
Christian Clark
well no not necessarily, this just may disprove the big bang theory, im sure there are other theories for the creation of the universe.
Ryder Diaz
>(and both the "big bang" and "heat death" hypotheses are also wrong ipso facto) That's not true, because the big bang and heat death hypothesis are also deduced from entropy and time itself - entropy is always increasing and time is moving forward. Entropy being the increase in the amount of information over time and time being the transformation of possibilities through wavefunction collapse into 'recorded' history.
Which means there must have been an initialization point, a Time Zero, and a Lowest State Of Entropy. Which we presently call the "Big Bang"
What is being called into question is the expansion of spacetime and the current understanding of the how the Big Bang happened.
Daniel Fisher
From nothing comes nothing
You post is all you need to confirm the answer for you, structured matter organism.
>Jews will have it all disproven by morning What's funny is they won't because they don't even have their own shit proved/disproved.
>speed of light For instance. As if there's actually evidence light travels, let alone has a speed.
No, you are just making wishes and pretending they're true without any supporting evidence whatsoever
God wasn't something that was even ruled out by the Big Bang theory, which just further embarrasses you and your retardation. Let me say this: I have no problem with you believing in God, but don't be a dumbfuck retard about it like you are right now.
Angel Bell
Gravity is just a gradient in the passage of time.
A pressure differential, if you will. I'm not sure exactly what you're thinking your comments have to do with upsetting that model?
Kevin Carter
so we are going to see more chorizo slices?
James Walker
So how old are we actually then? Aliens became even more real
Levi Anderson
Something “new” happens every day that’s why science is so gay.
Luis Perez
good post, it actually is happening
Brody Robinson
Are you implying black holes aren't real?
Leo Miller
I have been Electric Universe shitposting for years now. I am finally redeemed.
>From nothing comes nothing Let me guess, except the Jewish god of Israel, Yahweh, and his Jewish son, the circumcised Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef of Israel? Nobody had to create them, nope, not at all. From nothing comes nothing, except conveniently enough, that doesn't apply to the Jewish god you were groomed to believe is real. >b-b-but I didn't s-say anything about my Lord and sav- I MEAN, I didn't even say anything about religion! Good. Then you acknowledge that the Jewish god couldn't have come from nothing either
Asher Bennett
Interesting, so the universe itself may exhibit consciousness on a timescale wherein our entire solar system may be merely part of a single "neuron" firing as it spends millenia or more forming a single, coherent thought? I've kinda fantasized about this. Either way, I just pray that when I die I won't be reincarnated on this planet.
Colton Collins
Wasn't this what Tesla thought?
Zachary Bell
Need more information and building new theories and hypothesis based on the new evidence.
What we're getting from JWST is going to take a decade at a minimum to parse into a new model of the universe and there's going to be plenty of arguing the whole way.
Christopher Rodriguez
You can't prove the existence of a supernatural being through natural means, user. This is philosophy 101. All you have is belief. Which is fine, since a few core baseless beliefs (axioms) underpin all philosophical systems by necessity.
James Price
I really like space news. Its optimistic and wonderful.
Mason Flores
The idea that entropy itself proves either the big bang or heat death is one of the silliest myths in science.
Wyatt Powell
Also what implications does this have for us cyclic cosmology chads?
Zachary Brooks
>You post is all you need to confirm the answer for you, structured matter organism. wut?
Josiah Green
>speed of light For instance. As if there's actually evidence light travels, let alone has a speed.
There was evidence that light travels and has speed since 1676
Tyler Richardson
What is the entropy theory? that everything is just dying?
Thomas Foster
I think he believes that the phenomenon is being denied because the official version of gravity doesn’t check out? They can’t even explain gravity with their models of the universe. Gravity is basically the vegetables on a child’s plate when you’re a YouTube physicist begging for shekels
Luis Lopez
No, that's why science (at least true, not politicall motivated or religiously skewed pseudoscience) is so great. It constantly struggles to use the evidence presented to understand what is going on. And yes, it is a struggle, because there is so little we know. And that's the miracle, at least for humanity on the whole; the magic of learning something new about the universe surrounding us.
Josiah Hall
I think both dark matter and electric universe theories are horseshit. The latter hasn't made an accurate prediction ever, and any time someone claims it has, it's post-facto when you examine the claims more rigorously. That is, they pretend they made a prediction for the new evidence AFTER the new evidence comes in and never BEFORE, e.g. its not a fucking prediction.
Easton Mitchell
>For instance. As if there's actually evidence light travels, let alone has a speed. You can measure it retard.
Adrian Thomas
Dude we've been knew there was no Big Bang and etc snd the universe was numerous on ad Infinitum. You're late as hell.
"dark matter" are just rouge black holes that got ejected from their solar or galactic systems.
Charles Diaz
I’ve always told people that looking up into the sky is looking at the back of our head. It’s only a half joke.
Liam Rogers
>and Fixed anyways, OP last once again
Carson Barnes
>You can't prove the existence of a supernatural being through natural means, user. well fuck me then, my autistic ass has no hope for finding god.
Ian Carter
>A pressure differential, if you will. Of what? (remember it can't be a medium because that would nullify all of QM/GR)
>the big bang and heat death hypothesis are also deduced from entropy and time itself Time has no ontology
>Let me guess, except the Jewish god of Israel, Yahweh, and his Jewish son, the circumcised Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef of Israel? >The religion of dualism come to bring another No thanks "wave-particle" has them all in a massive psychosis as it is.
>From nothing comes nothing, except conveniently enough, that doesn't apply to the Jewish god you were groomed to believe is real. No, That was reified by sand people. They made him up so they could then fool him. As if it were absurd enough to come up with the concept of an omnipotence, they go a step beyond and negate the omnipotence they made up!
Are you a torpid, inanimate piece of material or do you in fact have an "order"? A structure? Something that animates the material no? You think the material just does that on it's own? Absurd.
>There was evidence that light travels and has speed since 1676 So you think there was actually technology to determine light speed when we can't even figure out what it actually is in modern day? That is hilarious, if not ridiculous.
Except it's not as much of a mystery as you think it is. Once gravitational lensing was observed, and we knew the speed of light, all of this was settled by deduction and math.
Space time curvature causes a gradient in the speed time flows at. The harder the curvature the faster time flows. Things will naturally move to a lower energy state which would be time passing faster.
Oliver Gomez
Am I dreaming or the order indeed was that multiplication came before division?
Adrian Lopez
hey those look like eyes.
Ryan Cooper
He is saying that the fact that you are a living being able to compose language and post it on the Internet is all the proof that you need that the universe is alive.
Nathaniel Ramirez
There's no "super natural", nature is supreme. Start there.
Blake Nguyen
>b Space Telescope (JWST). The increased resolution makes helically twisted filament pairs and braids plainly evident all over the place - braids not predicted by Big Bang cosmology. Yet such braids are expected to be common in Electric Universe / Plasma Cosmology, and have been explicitly predicted by them for decades.
BAM BAM BAM TESLA BOIZ
Eli Parker
Oh look another retard completely ignorant of an extremely complex field of study...humans deserve extinction.
Isaiah Brown
A pressure differential of the passage of time.
Jackson Mitchell
who gives a shit if a god exists or not? i don't fucking care, it doesn't impact my life regardless. the government will keep stealing my income
>You can measure it retard. LOL. How? Let me guess, "With light" amiright? Protip: it doesn't even exist unless the conditions to propagate it point a to b are present. You stop the "photon" to measure it and you no longer have "Wave" (the thing you defined light with).
Owen Lewis
What does it mean to be alive? to simply move? if so then yes the universe is alive by sheer moving of planets
Stupid phone doesnt favor parenthesis properly Prolly pajeet wrote that calculator app in javascript with his filthy poo hands with shit all over the keyboard
Wyatt Mitchell
Quick rundown here? When you say 'braids,' do you mean like those filaments in the cosmic web that look like clusters of neurons, or is this something different?
Landon Cox
the galactic web, all the stars in the universe are connected, we already knew this
i realized at some point recently that this is probably why they used to burn heretics, not because they were wrong but because they probably weren't even arguing in good faith to begin with
Ryan Rogers
It may very well be that if what some atheists attribute consciousness to - mere movement of energy in a complex fashion - is true (not atheism as a whole itself, I don't want to open that can of worms) then the universe itself may be "thinking" in a manner that we, as little more than a carbon atom in the metaphorical cytoplasm of a single glial cell coating a neuron in it's vast growing brain, cannot possibly observe on it's timescale. Imagine if it was studying us in a way over eons like we do our own physiology.
Andrew Young
holy checked, also based, also bump
Asher Moore
>y-you can't measure light using light, t-that's cheating Woah
Not an expert but it's a thermodynamic property of a system where a conversion of one type of energy to another is never "perfect" in that it will convert to multiple forms of energy no matter how efficient the process is. After a while this causes the energy to homogenize and reach a state where it is no longer transitioning from form to form save for small random perturbations (if that is even a real thing in this state). Essentially its the idea that all things are bound to break down into an unordered blob.
Dominic Young
anyone else thinking the moon is a giant shield for when the sun apes out the next time? the reason one side is always facing out is something is on it that helps us deal with a mega giga fuckarino electric event?
Lincoln Lopez
Brackets then exponents or whatever, or parenthesis. Idk how the ti got it wrong but division comes 3rd
Alexander Johnson
>of time >As if it weren't a reified measurement we made up
It doesn't exist you retard. It has no ontology. We made up "time" as a standard so we could compare everything, but it doesn't exist outside out imagination. It's not some magical force/field modality, setting a timer up doesn't actually cause shit to happen when it goes off.
Pretty much no human on the planet knows how magnets work. No I'm not joking, if only they bothered to figure it out instead of using them to dick around with electric fields and call the effects "discrete particles" then maybe we'd actually get somewhere.
Mason Rodriguez
don't be dumb, user they dont say gravity doesnt exist
John Sanders
So by that theory most matter in the universe should be mush, but that holds up when you look at most planets and how chaotic they are.
Lincoln Clark
Nobody said it proved it. If you're going to talk about science you should at the very least know how to use the fucking langauge. It's inferred from what we know. Like looking at a moving train and saying it probably had a starting point and probably has an ending point.
Given what we know of entropy - it is VERY likely that there is a beginning with no entropy, and an end with maximum entropy (the so called 'heat death' where everything has become fully disordered and there is no longer any motion or energy in the universe at all)
Robert Butler
our bodies are full of helices but it started somehow right?
Wyatt Hernandez
This just means more theories. You guys are acting like this means god is real. But in reality this sort of thing is part of the scientific process. New information comes and it challenges old information and new conclusions must be drawn.
It's really, quite good news. We are deepening our understanding of reality.
Ayden Ward
Atomic structure has also been solved, sadly the goyim are not yet allowed to posses such knowledge incase they blow up the whole earth with their (((personal experiments))) You shall eat the schrodinger equations goyslop for now
