I have just read an article written by The Zero Hedge in which the author claims that one could not speak of climate change as a result of carbon emissions because… it is not the first time that temperatures rise this high (he gives the example of the 1540 drought, for instance) However, this is just a bunch of bs kek The thing that matters is not that this summer is very hot or the last 3 or 4 summers but the TREND the average temperature is following. It’s true that one can’t say that this summer is very hot due to human’s carbon emissions. But if you look at the trend of the last 200 years, you clearly see a picture of temperatures going up and up. Maybe next summer is very cold, but overall if you look at the trend, there’s no question that this is not a random situation
The Graph That Completely Destroys /POL Narrative
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Zoom out faggot
We're at a relative low point of CO2 in terms of the historical record.
>scale: -.5 to 1°C
>such a small number it would fit within any margin of error
fuck off
In fact, if we go much lower in CO2, the plants will mostly die and we'll have an ecological disaster because idiots like you don't understand anything at all.
pic related
what's your basis to state 1 degree is a small number
>1800 years from the medieval cold period to today
Erm….
>2022
>still shilling the hockey stick chart
even Snopes debunked this by now
You're a nigger, this is my basis, now fuck off.
we didnt have thermometers accurate within 1 degree until the spike. its all speculation based on ice cores and shit and is definitely not accurate to the tenth of a degree.
it is observed all the time without huge impact, what is your basis for thinking it does cause reason to destroy economy and oppress people?
The only evidence we need to be afraid I have seen came from computer models where they themselves programmed into it that horrible things would happen if they changed the values, so in the end it is just their imagination about what might be we got to see
and from what we can observe they were wrong, and they probably knew so themselves considering they never stopped buying beach properties despite saying they would be flooded shortly when lying on TV
does the food in your fridge go bad if you turn the thermostat up 1°C?
I’d eat the bugs if we had carboniferous sized bugs and equivalent O2/CO2 levels
Ok, forget about carbon emissions… what is causing this trend, then? It’s not random that’s for sure, it’s just common sense kek look at the graph
Year 1800, not 1800 years ago. Kek
What is your basis to state it's such a concerning number that we need to turn society upside down to prevent things like ocean level rises, and do so in such a way that just (((coincidentally))) happens to drive money and power to the 'elites' who suddenly are the ones telling us the world will end if we don't make these changes?
>China builds thousands of dams
>China gets flooded
>The west tears down thousands of dams
>The west gets drought and hot weather
also picrel zoomed into the current/previous interglacial (which was warmer than today)
the temperature generally comes before the CO2, and the simplest explanation for that is the CO2 is a temperature dependent response
incidentally, I think the CO2 does cause warming, but it's not very much.
it's not 10ppm for 1C of warming, it's more like 100ppm for 1C, with vastly diminishing returns.
it's actually the other way around, 1C of warming causes 10ppm rise in CO2 (but not the other way around, because if that was true you'd be living on venus for the last 1 billion years)
there is no "self sustaining, self reenforcing feedback loop"
Imagine not zooming out. You should never consider trading/investing you window licking neanderthal edomite pond scum.
It's not carbon, it's heat emissions from people. They burn energy to heat homes in the winter, they burn energy to cool homes in the summer, they drive automobiles fueled by explosions, fly in jets fueled by explosions, and so on. Every day billions of people let off a massive amount of heat for transportation and comfort. It will only increase as the first world population does.
>500000 years ago
Yes, and 160 million years ago the Earth was a fire ball XD what are you trying to say with that graph XD share a graph from the last 500 years
>eat the bugz
I haven’t said anything about bugz… climate change is a fact, the measures most politicians are proposing are crazy but that doesn’t mean you have to deny climate change
OP IS A NIGGER FAGGOT BUT HE TOTALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE HIS FAGGOT FUCKING HEAD CUT OFF AND DISPLAYED FOR US ALL TO SEE
LOL
>The graph that disappeared from the UN reports when the model was shown to create hockey sticks out of completely random data destroys /POL
Oh wow the hockey stick the one that hides the decline, no one on pol has ever seen this before.
Uh, maybe it's just the earth fucking changing like it's done plenty of times before. Explain how antarctica had temperate forest and death valley had glaciers. Explain it, you dumb bitch.
the last 500 years is not long enough to see the cyclical ice ages, which are caused by the Milinkovic cycles, not the CO2
the CO2 is merely a symptom of these events, not the cause
A big problem is sensors near urban areas. There is zero question of the urban heat islands. How much do they contribute to the aggregate data? Anyone have a study that isn't East Anglia tier?
I haven’t said we should start eating bugs and using electric cars as a general rule. I just said climate change is a fact. I wouldn’t mind living the rest of my life with these increasing temperatures
Do you see all the cities submerging? Because I don't. If the prophets of calamity that pushed this agenda time and time again failed, wouldn't it be wiser to question the agenda? Oh but these are the "good guys", totally forgot "ze science!" people are biased and only really parrot what others say.
So then why the uptrend starts at the beginning of the 19th century? Don’t you find that to be too much of a coincidence?
Damn. Imagine all the shit we'll never know existed cause it's at the bottom of the ocean.
One absolutely bizarre thing I found analyzing every lake in your country Miguel, literally no one has a private dock. All the reservoirs seem to fluctuate too much to make it practical. On the ocean for sure but that's salty and lame unless you have a yacht or something.
I was looking for some large freshwater lake near the Pyrenees but it doesn't exist.
Nobody has talked about cities submerging… I understand most people defending climate changes are leftist lunatics. Ok, I’ll give you that… but you can’t deny everything it’s what I’m trying to say…
>from the last 500 years
with what resource?
We have accurate measurements from maybe the last 100, and anything beyond is utterly speculative and extremely blunt, like ice cores.
You're not going back 500, excepting that we're coming out of what witnesses describe what we would consider a 'little iceage'. For example here in the US the Potomac River freezing over.
In other words, we know the world is getting warmer. We have known the world is getting warmer. What we can also glean is that CO2 concentrations have been disturbingly low, and experimentally, not too far below contemporary CO2 concentrations plant life does not. Read: utter catastrophe. That CO2 is rising comfortably above that level should be regarded as nothing short of a boon for what we also observe empirically - that is dramatically more productive plant growth with higher CO2 concentrations. So much so dudeweedman deliberately blow CO2 onto their crops to exaggerate production.
Yet we're told it's the end of the world and we have to fuck everything or die. Curious.
There, now it doesn't look so bad, does it?
In that case, yes, climate is changing. Reason, unknown. There are too many variables so one can only guess.
That said I'm not against having a cleaner environment, or these studies, or even the studies being wrong, but the plans are ridiculous, obvious power grabs, and too optimistic. That's what I care about. That countries are failing to keep stability and freedom.
if going from 280ppm to 180ppm causes a 10-12C drop in temps, then that would mean that going from 280ppm to 415ppm would cause like 12-14C of warming
they are saying we've had 1.2C of warming
so yeah, the CO2 does cause warming, but it's not very much
if you don't believe that putting 130ppm into the atmosphere causes 13C of warming, then you don't believe that taking 100ppm out causes the ice ages
and with that, falsifies the entire contention that CO2 is the primary driver of the earths temperature
Op's a faggot
We already live in clean countries. At least I do. There's no way we can clean it up unless we go to every third world shithole and kill every inhabitant. They are the ones polluting, not us. Let them pay to clean the fucking oceans. Trash humans fucking disgust me and I'd rather see 100 of them dead than a turtle caught in a plastic ring.