Why indeed?
inb4 copes like
>muh free will
>satan did it
>god loves you but he also wants you to love him back so he sets up challenges for you to prove your love to him like a crazy gf
christcuckery stuck europe in a dark age for 1500 years
Why indeed?
inb4 copes like
>muh free will
>satan did it
>god loves you but he also wants you to love him back so he sets up challenges for you to prove your love to him like a crazy gf
christcuckery stuck europe in a dark age for 1500 years
chink slide thread
Africa is proof that if you don't come across new challenges, you can't better yourself.
Didn't Epicurus live in a polytheistic society?
Stupid Epicurus with his human concerns.
you’re all faggots for bumping
nah niggers are dum cuz its too hot there so your brain cant get big or it will overheat
Humans are ignorant and realize not the divine Truth, so the only thing we know for sure about God is that He is the Father, and we should worhsip Him and follow and call out His Son, Jesus Christ.
>so the only thing we know for sure
how though?
Jesus taught us
how do you know jesus wasnt just a crazy person?
>Is be able, but not willing?
>Then he is malevolent.
This is not logical. For all you know, there could be a perfectly good reason why god is not willing to do this. And that reason is that to eliminate evil, then he must place restrictions on free will.
>hurr durrr god does not have to follow logic
God IS logic.
>tfw you know all
>muh free will.
i already inb4'd
The thing is that everyone thinks that all Greeks believed in Zeus and shit, but Plato made it clear that that there was a two tier society and the pantheon was for plebs and an aloof inaccessible god was the creator.
Even epicurus falls under dumb nigger human parameter logic. If god is god then we have no say in what hes capable or willing to do. If god loves us then free will is perfect because we can CHOOSE to abide by the conditions he sets for us or live a dumb nigger empty life and blame god for our problems. Everything evil in the world is caused by us not god.
>buy dog and let your dog have free will
>but if he does bad you punish him
>if he does good you reward him
>he serves you via hunting or doing a job only he can
>or simply being a friend
Owning dogs is a myth confirmed
he is willing and able and in some circumstances he has intervened, but he generally does not. That is most Christians takes on the question.
Only Christians who are halfassed have trouble with this.
God creates evil. He says so several times. He wants to make a point, He wants to put you through a test, you bet your apologetic ass He'll fucking stomp you knowing full well you might not deserve it, or would have done good otherwise if He hadn't intervened to teach a fucking lesson.
Nah. He bible even says that god creates light and dark, good and evil. If he admits it, you should believe it, because that’s kinda the whole point.
>If god is god then we have no say in what hes capable or willing to do.
and yet christcucks seem to want to tell you what god wants you to do...
Because this mortal realm, with these physical temporary bodies that are just vessels, is completely beneath him. It’s fake and gay just like all the rules and constraints programmed into the simulation. How dumb are these philosophers?
Most people aren't mature enough to understand that they are the exact same type of forces interacting with you relative to its standards.
if you are part of this realm that's 'completely beneath him' how could you possibly know what he thinks?
>mortal realm,
You mean reality?
Exactly and the ways he intervenes are obviously through manipulating conditions outside of space and time to set up perfect synchronisties
Like how your anus is the perfect size for inserting thumbs?
Why is it not as simple as
>Yahweh is not the prime mover.
? I don't understand whats so hard about that.
Yes and that quote is not by Epicurus but some 3rd century Roman philosopher.
Knowing is only half the battle. If you can accept it and internalize it, you could have far more control over the simulation and get a glimpse at god’s glory. Think of what separates people like Musk and Bezos from ordinary millionaires
God has no obligation to prevent evil.
If I created a bunch of ants and made the ants look like me and they ran around trying to play this little game where they collected resources and traded them and was like "aww that's cute they built little monuments to some guy named Zeus, they think he's chucking lightning bolts like javelins, oh no they hate those other dudes over there and now they are killing them because they can, wow, what a bunch of dicks."
I'm not obligated to step in. Even if I can. Even if I could. Why? Because if I am God everything else is going to be second fiddle. Even as some little ant dude watches as his cute little ant wife and daughter are raped in front of him I just get to go " oh nyoo! That's soo bad!" Oh well. I didn't do it."
This is like saying"bro did you hear about Ukraine, dude if you arent getting on a plane right now to join up you are evil because you let evil happen."
You cant do mental gymnastics and thought experiments to weasel out of your faggotry.
It's even beyond that I'll give a historical example and a personal example.
Historical Example
>George Washington had multiple horses shot from underneath him. he has coats with musket shots through his coat yet he was never struck. Being hit with a musket in the 1700s was almost certainly a death sentence. But god had other plans for him.
Personal Example
> I was riding on a motorcycle at 80MPH on the highway when my piston blew. it was basically a mini explosion and blew the piston threw my crankshaft. I slowly rolled off the highway and eventually got the bike to some guys who were bike mechanics and told them what happened. They looked at me and literally said to me "how are you standing infront of us right now". What should've happened is the rear wheel should've seized and yeeted me off the bike. 50 yr mechanic said he never saw someone walk away from a blown piston on a motorcycle.
You can meme and say it isn't god or its just "chance" but it really isn't. Some shit like my story should just straight up be impossible but it happens. How? only god knows bros.
i like how you completely dont answer the question like a sneaky jew that you are
Universal good and evil doesn't exist. God is not here to take care of you. God (or multiple gods) is a representation of the unstoppable and eternal forces of nature. You (as a filthy mortal) are just here to cower in fear and live out your pathetic life.
Wow, you destroyed me
:/
you cannot make analogy to human's inaction because humans do not have infinite power and resources to make shit happen like god.
Yeah. It’s fake and gay. A simulation for lack of a better word. To tempt us into lying and acting greedy. Things that didn’t exist before reality. People think they gain something when cheat or steal but the karmic joke is ultimately on them. Lying and sin didn’t exist until reality came to be. It was just a bunch of 5th dimensional spirits doing interpretive dances
Yeah