Read into ethical vegan arguments

>muh philosophical arguments
eating meat is how humans work you faggot
the only reason that humans look like humans now is because we evolved to eat meat (specifically cooked meat)

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It’s about the amino acids. You’re missing out on some important nutrients by completely skipping out on meat.

anime is fucking up your already fucked up mind

If you're okay with eating plants, you're okay with killing living beings to eat.
The question is simply where you draw the line.

yeah

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I bet you’re going to start talking about the merits of eating bugs now, aren’t you?

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Yes because you fucked your hormones.

If you're a faggot, go vegan, if you want to be the best you can be, eat meat.

It tastes good.

Idgaf about what your eat. Who the anime bitch?

Hahahaha hello cute girl want buttsex with me? I am black tall and my name is Muhammed

I know this is a 1pbtid slide thread but the human body requires saturated fat, complete proteins, cholesterol and vitamin B12. All vegans end up looking like zombies in due time

There are compelling ethical arguments for not eating meat. HOWEVER humans need to eat meat to be healthy, and no we will not eat the bugs. Case closed.

*takes a bite of steak and then burps in your face*

Most cows exist because humans breed them to eat them.
If the meat industry stopped, the cow population would fall like 99.9%.
Is it really an improvement for the cows, that 999 out of every 1000 of them now never even get to be born?

The meat industry is good for animals because it produces more of them. The fact that they'll be eaten at the end doesn't matter. If someone was going to put an pneumatic bolt through my brain and cook my corpse when I get to 40, I wouldn't want to retroactively not be born, because I at least got to experience SOME life.

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Veganism: not even once

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Meat is a highly efficient means to consume calories and clearly something we evolved to have in our diet. A diet without any animal products is clearly unnatural as one must take a bunch of unnatural supplements to maintain a healthy diet. Certain vitamins are only fully processed by the body when taken with animal fats. Meat animals are also an efficient use of grazing land that crops cannot grow on.

The problem, really the only one, is that our constant consumption of meat is highly unnatural. In the state of nature we'd be mostly vegetarian with sporadic feasts of meat once a deer, Buffalo, or wooly mammoth was taken down. We also don't suffer in the winter anymore, no longer are we forced to eat dried meat, fish, and storage crops to survive. And taking human quality food, like corn, to raise cattle in pens is a mockery of the efficient use of grazing land. But we do it because we demand to eat meat several times a day in a great excess compared to the state of nature

Slide thread
In all fields

I still have a physique of a 23 year old, but my face just stopped aging at 16. The biggest change i noticed from adding meat back into my diet a year ago was just better tendon health.

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>Ethical arguments against veganism
>It is extremely unhealthy. It does not readily provide all the nutrition your body needs. This is especially bad in growing children.
>If we stop eating meat then farm animals beome surplus to requirements. At that point you either slaughter them all, genociding entire species, or you release them into the wild where they all get torn to shreds by predators in short order.
>There is not enough arable farmland on earth to feed everyone a vegan diet. Most farmland is only suitable for growing grass (i.e to feed to animals). To get more farmland to grow your vegan soibeans they clear cut the rainforest.

Veganism is not healthy, not environmentally friendly, nor is it ethical.

Meat eating is just nature. It conflicts with men's pretty ideals.

There are other things that are the same way - race, the value of human life.

/click/ on their number to make a reply, newb.

What do you think about the culling of herbivores with no natural enemies, destroying the habitat for all life by eating all plants?
I know it was the humans who killed the predators who did the culling before but should we just let them destroy everything?
>inb4 Just reintroduce the predators
So getting eaten alive is more humane than a bullet through the heart or lungs?

London.

>There is not enough arable farmland on earth to feed everyone a vegan diet. Most farmland is only suitable for growing grass (i.e to feed to animals).
Oh give me a break. Every stage of the consumption pyramid is a 10-fold loss of energy efficiency. If we could live on corn or whatever we feed cows + chickens, it'd be way more efficient.

anime website

Natural law trumps pretentious pseudo-intellectualism.
Ask a lion for serious philosophical arguments for eating you and watch as it licks its lips at the thought.

Sneed's Feed and Seed (Formerly Chuck's)

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You kikes get paid for yous dumbfuck

... oops, sorry, I didn't catch the 'only grassland' part. I disavow, retract, call myself a retard etc.

But really? We feed livestock mostly grain, here in the US, surely?

ethics only applies to people
i will eat cows because i can and because i want to

What do you mean give me a break? It's completely true. Most farmland on earth has soil to thin, too poor, too dry, and/or it's literally going up the side of a mountain. This is fine for something like raising sheep. Cabbages are not happening there though.

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

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>Need pre packaged mental gymnastics guide to tell me what I am and what to do.

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Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
researchnews.osu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

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Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

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>my opinion is justified by other opinions
go back predditor

You need myoglobin retard. There is no reason for it, nature gives two shits about philosophical idealism.

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

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I'm an animal. I'm top of the food chain predator. I'm hunter. I eat meat.

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Onions decreases your testosterone
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:
youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8

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>HAAANIMUUU WEBSIDOOOO DAH?
Fuck off nigger faggot

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Eating meat increases testosterone
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

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you are a faggot and a memeflaggot, so anything you say, think or do is irrelevant and discarded as such
herb your asshole

Death to kikes

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html
youtube.com/watch?v=1y__4xX8xp8

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
archive.is/HD6UZ
youtube.com/watch?v=yRELldIuZyM
sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.
youtube.com/watch?v=ubGzbj59_Xs

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

sci-hub.io/

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Based European Autist.

>I started veganism when i was 16. Now i'm 23 and still look like i'm 16 in the face.
post proof.
Every single Vegan and Vegetarian I see has the looks of a deranged ghoul from Fallout.

youtu.be/PJnPZgLHHWQ?t=219

Malnourishing your body is not healthy. You can compare different cultures from around the world to see how their ethnicities evolved.

The easiest example is Samoans from Hawaii. They are lazy weak fatasses because they are a fruit eating society.
The next example would be Mongolians. They are naturally fit and energetic because of high protein and high vitamin diets.

Your biology does not care about your morality.

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I shot a homo at Atlanta Pride in 99 for trying to touch me after I walked out of a bar, cops said he was a known drug addict and degenerate so they didn't even give me a ticket
Death to all Jews

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pasta for any would-be-vegans out there to try and argue against:

milk and unfertilized eggs (animal products) are literally the most humane things you can eat
and you are still killing bacteria no matter what you eat

if humans were not raising animals for food, there would be no reason to raise animals in the same large numbers, and the animal population would decrease significantly, most likely in zoos for future scientific reasons
>just let them live in the wild
humans are the apex predator, we keep other lifeforms in check, not the other way around
the earth belongs to the humans, that means forests belong to the humans, oceans belong to the humans, and so on. we could potentially have another "zoo planet" in the future but it's suicidal to turn earth into one at the cost of human / technological progress today

imagine one day, in space, we meet a plant based life form
as a vegan, are you going to eat them? how about their 'young', their seeds and saplings
what if the plant people themselves are carnivorous

speaking of which, your dog is also a carnivore, funny how you have no problem killing to feed it

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lol

Ethics and philisofeefees are for faggots, get a real job, nigger.

>cede mediums to exchange to kikes as soon as they insinuate they are in it
People like you are the reason hollywood beat out goyfilms.
Countersignal everything jews do and promote every medium they do not control. India did that untouchables shit too and look how fucking backwards they were when the brits arrived.

This was literally supposed to be taught to you in second grade.
Herbivorous animals tend to have rounded teeth.
Carnivorous animals tend to have pointy teeth.
Humans have both because we are natural omnivores.

the way to solve world hunger is to build a modular solar powered machine learning controlled aquaponic grow box that makes fertilizer, clean water/air, and food. its ok to eat fish, they dont have any feelings.

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1pbtid
Shut it down

it tastes good
makes me feel good
i eat vegetables too
veganism at its core is just a childish cry at the world that it isn't fair that things need to die for them to live and they can forget the fact that plants are living things because they aren't relatable like complex organisms such as fish or pigs.