Riddle me this. People generally believe that the government and the laws are right and moral for the most part...

Riddle me this. People generally believe that the government and the laws are right and moral for the most part. Yet the bigger the government and the more numerous the laws the more things viewed traditionally as sin are allowed or even encouraged.

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>People generally believe that the government and the laws are right and moral for the most part.
I dont. I see them as necessary limits to keep the animals in check. I think only a few of humanity are actually more than animals. If you believe you are one of the latter surely you would find a way to circumvene them if you need to.
>the bigger the government and the more numerous the laws the more things viewed traditionally as sin are allowed or even encouraged
they dont. the government reflects the mass, the mass are (currently) led by medias, and the media has been on a crusade against trad values for the last several decades. I believe if the media procasts nothing but trad values propagandas and criticise against hedonism, things will go back to the way it was

I think you are talking about Sweden rather than governments in general

Please don't bring animals into this
In all my encounters with animals, be they dogs, cats, birds, horses or other, I found them to be calm, intelligent and empathetic, unlike most h*mans

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>I see them as necessary limits to keep the animals in check.
So you're just rephrasing. You're agreeing with what I said people think but saying you're not. Same thing you do in your second part. If you're going to say you disagree then make an actual point of disagreement.
>the media influences opinion
So?

No, I'm not. America has the biggest prison population in the world, and also promotes drug use, pornography and all sorts of sin.
>We corrupt in order to rule
t. Freemason Giuseppe Mazzini

>No, I'm not. America has the biggest prison population in the world, and also promotes drug use, pornography and all sorts of sin.
Nobody thinks the US government is moral though

you are still viewing things as black and white while i see them as different shades of grey. perhaps we arent meant to be having conversations

Technological progress is very much related to this. I believe that as technology progresses government inevitably grows bigger. When you get surveillance cameras normies think it will "be used to catch criminals" but in tandem with putting up more surveillance cameras laws will be changed to allow and promote more degeneracy. The more cameras in the mall the louder and fouler the music playing in the background, the shorter the skirts etc.

You just spent too much time on Any Forums. Among the general population many people do. CIA, FBI, NSA recruit heavily among Mormons.

Not an argument. You don't know how to construct an argument.

>they dont. the government reflects the mass, the mass are (currently) led by medias, and the media has been on a crusade against trad values for the last several decades. I believe if the media procasts nothing but trad values propagandas and criticise against hedonism, things will go back to the way it was
This is just saying "it shouldn't be". What shouldn't be is irrelevant, this is about what is. Doesn't matter if the media influences opinion. The statement I made is that people believe government and laws are for the most part moral and right.