Labor creates value because… because fuck you that’s why

Why not outlaw both and go with the only economic system that is not class warfare?

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You’re mother is a whore
That’s the value she gives

That amounts to saying
>Communism is the same as Capitalism
Y/N?

Labor creates Product (or service). Product creates value.

Shitty labor creates shitty product. Shitty product creates negative value/loss.

The service industry admittedly is a bit of a special case and not real work. It's providing a service, never producing anything, value or otherwise.

Or work in a socialism country. It's just like work for free.

It doesn’t. Society’s social conventions (value) are immaterial.

Literally this
Communism is the antipode of natural development of human society - it’s a completely artificial system that is unsustainable without use of complete compliance, slavery and domination via military forces
Not that other systems don’t need protection, but “communism” is so fragile that it needs all those means of protection to be upped to the max - and even that would not be enough to save it - as we’ve seen with USSR.

heh

They are both run by Jews.
As we see in late stage capitalism now.
As we have seen in communist leaders/propagandists in the history of communism.

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So basically labor doesn't exist at all?
>social conventions (labor) are immaterial

Maybe, but I don't think it really is a good argument. There's certainly differences. Both has its problems. Neither "works".

Except under socialism the labor is valued and if is not it is an anomaly. Socialist contract provides you with food and shelter and healthcare at the exchange of your work. And if you don't work you are forced to
there are no neets in socialist utopia

Yes, it does. This doesn't mean his doctrine isn't faggotry. Kill yourself kike.

i've been to all of the communist/socialist countries on the planet and it's the worst system ever devised. Family came from a socialist country. Grew up in the US with friends families from all sorts of communist countries.

Always found it interesting how Champagne Socialists exist in Western countries.
>Biggest failure of any societal system in human history
>Ever iteration of is has failed the same way. Muh, it wasn't real communism.
>They would never live in a communist country or brown country as a 'worker'
>Always see themselves as elite commissar that effectively does nothing. Meanwhile, lives better than their proletariat worker.

Communists are out of touch with reality and despise the actual working class.

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go dilate memeflag troon

The need for labour creates value. If there is no need there is no value.

>ad hom
attack the argument and not the man

Labor can also destroy value. In fact, most labor does exactly that.

proof?

>failed every time!!!
>USSR goes from a backyard feudal peasant state to a world superpower in the span of a few decades
>China goes from a backyard feudal peasant state to a world superpower in the span of a few decades
>China produces and exports more finished goods than any country on Earth
>China has the highest rate of millennial home ownership in the world currently, estimates up to 90%
>Vietnam goes from a backyard colonial peasant state to having the fastest growing middle class on Earth
>Venuzuela, North Korea, and Cuba still exist despite sanctions and outright hostile military interventions from the West

Even if all of these are lies, none of it matters because Marx was right and capitalism has already collapsed into a new mode of production, especially here in America.

>businesses heavily subsidized by the government
>food and goyslop heavily subsidized
>capital has been socialized at the highest corporate level via public stock market ownership and private equity
>ditching of the gold standard for fiat inflation based funny money
>”You will own nothing and be happy”

Capitalism has already collapsed in America after the Great Depression and you’d be retarded not to see that.

Marx was right about everything especially the Jews. Reject Jewish propaganda and embrace National Socialism in all it’s forms or continue to be goyslave cattle for a group of rich international Jewish banking cartels and own nothing and be happy. Read Das Kapital and SAGE all fields.

People are paid on the rarity/usefulness of a certain skill.

Flipping burgers is easy and doesn't not require a lot of talent to do, while being an engineer and overseeing the construction of a building is. Therefor, the Construction company is willing to offer much more money for the time an engineer spends working for them than McDonalds spends on a frycook.

What is wrong with this?

bailouts aren't capitalist.

>dammit engels, my brother just cut me off from the family money.
>gimme some more, i got an unreadable book of complete bullshit to finish.

Fascism/NS is an economic/social system that integrates humanity (desires, requirements, physiology) and aligning it with human progress. Every other system is unnatural. You have to understand humanity and have a system that works with it to drive humanity forward.

Capitalism doesn't care for neighbour, family, country. Point is profit.

Communism doesn't care for humanity. They have an ideal and try to put a round ball into a square peg. Doomed from the start.

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Of the utility. Are you retarded?

>Read Das Kapital
Read the Protocols of Zion. It all came true.

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What does create value?

The socialist theory.
If socialists fail to give you a house food and healthcare it means he is failing because according to socialist ideology everyone should have it
If capitalist do not give you a house, so what, they never promised you a house in the first place.

If a north korean starves that is north korean governments fault if an american starves it is not us governments fault as us government has no obligation to feed its citizens
Not at all I agree with you on that
But to label labor theory has no value is absurd. Even the burger flipper has a value.

Then go live there faggot

at least you admit you'll never be a woman

You sound like the liberals who try to shout down their opponents by spouting "you are a cis white maleeee" instead of giving counter arguments to their points

>trusting data furnished by totalitarian, censorious slave states

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