I understand that Any Forums may not take kindly to me because of my political beliefs. I understand your frustrations and I will take my leave shortly. But I think that my ideological opponents might be able to give me the answers I need. I just want to know what happened to leftism? When did leftism stop being about improving workers rights and achieving an egalitarian utopia? When did the core of leftist ideology suddenly become focused on nogs and trannies? I thought a truly egalitarian and Marxist society wouldn’t need to push any of these groups ahead of another. What has happened to leftism? I’m a leftist but I disagree with this tranny and faggot nonsense. I see it as a psyop, a distraction by the capitalists. The core focus of Marxism has stopped being about forming an egalitarian society and freeing the workers from their shackles and more worshipping the mentally impaired simply because they exist. I believe all this tranny and faggot nonsense is a Trojan horse by the bourgeois to hijack leftist movements. When people think of a leftist, they don’t think of someone who wants to free the workers. They don’t think of the dictatorship of the proletariat. They envision a simpering faggot capitalist whining at you because you called a faggot a faggot. Those “leftists” disgust me. They serve as useful idiots to aid the enemy.
Actual leftist here. What happened to leftism?
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Leftism is just a vehicle for talmudism
tl;dr
Knrony capitalism under neoliberal economics isn't capitalism
We have the same enemy. Corporate lobby groups and corruption
The answer isn't to hate capitalism.. that's low IQ. It's to remove corruption and lobbyists and corporate socialism.. reduction in degeneracy, homogeneous societies.. love for your nation.. culture.. scientific progression etc.
Calling yourself a 'leftist' without firm definition is very Redd it tier IQ
>I thought a truly egalitarian and Marxist society wouldn’t need to push any of these groups ahead of another
read animal farm retard
> I believe all this tranny and faggot nonsense is a Trojan horse by the bourgeois to hijack leftist movements. When people think of a leftist, they don’t think of someone who wants to free the workers. They don’t think of the dictatorship of the proletariat. They envision a simpering faggot capitalist whining at you because you called a faggot a faggot.
You guys sold out for more voting power. The Democrats never had your interests at heart, and the same slave-owning families who sent thousands of our ancestors to die are now pretending to be for minorities' rights while ensuring no long-term solution to the educational problems keeping them and the working man down will ever come to fruition.
They'll teach you to respect pronouns, but not to find a job. They'll important thousands of immigrants a day to take on menial labor jobs, but they won't teach them how to speak English.
The best thing a progressive could do is go third-party.
Also marixsm created everything you talk about
It seeks to divide people in to oppression hierarchy.. confuse sexes, fight men and women, destroy a society as it's first stage.. the long March through the institutions.. rebuilding after marxist revolution is when you get your marxist utopia.. or you know.. the gulag.. because that's where it ends.
You're winning. It could happen. I'm sure your life will be saved and you'll be a slam poet for the new totalitarian marxist government and not starved to death
You’ll be full on natsoc in a few months. This is how it starts
leftism is still alive, its only the west that is fucking dying due to degeneracy. The turkish communist party has been democratically elected in the province of Tunceli, and they have been doing everything the og left way ever since and it just works. As long as you keep the degenerate shit outside of politics.
You arent special.
Most of us arrived here the same way.
My beliefs and principles are the same as they always were but I am literally known as a science denying phobic bigot now.
And you will be too because that's the whole point.
Leftism was always this way we were just born into it (left good right bad) as it progressed further and further to clown world we started to notice because what was normal for us changed. Ie equality is good/colour blindness to prevent racism to equity good and colour blindness is racist. None of it matters. Racism is a marxist word.
I'd wager you are a young gen x or early millennial.
Christianity is a vehical for judaism that results in the same thing as globohomo communiam.
What? It was never about workers' rights. It's about slavery, control and petty, envious morons wanting to be the big dog.
No ideology on the planet has harmed workers more than communism. You basically strip away all their rights, their individuality, their rights of ownership, their potential to climb the social ladder and the ability to make choices in their lives. They essentially become slaves. That is, if they're lucky enough to not get executed, starved to death or sent to a work camp for opposing said slavery.
Christianity is by definition the rejection of judiasm
>NOOOOO NOT MY HECKING LANLORDS RIGHT TO OWN PROPERTY NOOOOOOO
Take it further.
Capitalism is a marxist word. They redefine words to win arguements.
Capitalism was referring to the free market in a way commies could control the definition. Crony capitalism, state capitalism etc etc arent different types of free market they're different types of a redefined commie word.
Racist is a commie word
Female and male are redefined
Vaccine is redefined
Herd immunity is redefined
Recession is redefined.
It's what they do.
when Obamanigger became Prez
Corrupted from within
Move on
>They serve as useful idiots to aid the enemy.
Socialism is an ideology for gullible people who can be easily manipulated.
My parent lived under socialism but they didn't believe a millisecond in that shit because cognitive dissonance while observing reality was too harsh.
Is that why they worship israel, promote race mixing, cutting dick, multiculturalism, giving to the poor, given to rome so they wouldnt fight back agest their invaders. Just like how republicans today worship their invadors and love being a slave?
You are an idiot.
> I just want to know what happened to leftism?
tl ; dr : cointelpro
Nothing. You just grew up.
Former leftist here, still an atheist. The bible did more for society than any leftist ever did. Jefferson had it right, cut out the mysticism, keep the societal principles. They're the only ones people remember anyway: do unto others, honor thy family, don't live a covetous life etc. The nihilism inherent in leftists blinded by their own hubris is what is killing us. Abortion is killing us for this reason. It makes fools think they can run society on murder for convenience. Once you accept that Faustian bargain, you've communicated to your entire society that their lives are worthless. They know it, and the elites know it so farmland and housing is bought in preparation to get rid of all of us because we didn't stand up for the least of us.
You can inspire the general public to be better, but you can't put them in charge. This is why communism, democrats etc. are shit philosophies at core, marketed to fools for the benefit of the elite alone. You're right that capitalism markets to fools but investing itself is not inherently evil. You invest all the time, you're investing your time right now trying to socially engineer this board.
Marketing to fools gave us Jim Jones, who was all about Jim Jones while using the same words you do like bourgeoise and proletariat in addition to diversity and inclusion because that kept up the veneer of being about the people while he collected money and fucked groupies. He was adored by the CA bay area including people like Diane Feinstein, Willie Brown and the thought leaders of the day that are the heart of the modern left.
Conservative society accepts reality that not everyone and every group is equal
Like in any negotiation, no group wins everything they wanted, there are tradeoffs
These tradeoffs become cemented into tradition
Liberals believe they are smarter and take issue with these traditions
Liberalism is built on the premise that human beings are, by nature, free and equal
They claim the moral high ground by calling conservatives exploitative, and conservatives give way as you see your overton window shifting today
Marxists rightly pointing out natural inequality, and make demands to for new rights for the "oppressed"
If all men are free and equal, why are there borders? If all men are free and equal, why can't everyone attend a top university? and so on
Liberals embarrassed that their egalitarian perfect system is actually flawed, adopt more and more marxist demands
Since marxists reduce everything to "oppressor" and "oppressed" they always claim the moral high ground as their own, while all their opponents are evil oppressors
In other words, there's only ONE moral party. Marxism is purely anti-democratic, because you cannot have a democracy where there's only one party
Of course, we all know through simple observation, Marxism always fails.
Marxism always produces bread lines. Marxism always produces mass murder.
When it collapses, negotiations begin again among various groups, tradeoffs are made, and traditions are established...
Marxism, more so than any other ideology and socio-economic system in history, failed to bring about the results it promised. Even retards can see this. The basic assumption as to why it failed in the minds of those who refuse to move on, was that the emergence of a Marxist system cannot happen as long as the bourgeoisie controls the culture, and so every single component of society, every single social dynamic, must be analyzed through the Marxist Dialectic in order to bring about the revolution. Neo-Marxism (wokeness/cultural marxism, etc., it has many names) is just Marxism taken to it's inevitable conclusion. You can say they're retarded, and that's because they are. But at least they are capable of using mental gymanastics to explain why Marxism failed so spectacularly, without sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "it wasn't REAL communism", much like yourself.
You want the honest truth? Marx, while almost certainly a genius, was so out of touch with reality, and in his ivory tower envisioned a working class that didn't exist. The key to a prosperous and fair society isn't equity, it's social cohesion. If you create a society in which every person understands from birth that they have a deep connection to and obligation towards their people; who owns what factory becomes totally irrelevant. Marx, being a jew from a wealthy banking clan (he's 3 generations removed from the Rothschilds, by the way) was incapable of understanding this, and created a sea of dog shit that has never worked, and will never work.
>When did leftism stop being about improving workers rights and achieving an egalitarian utopia?
an egalitarian utopia is a retarded end point of any philosophy. leftism was never about some idealized dream, it was always using that as a way to obtain power
leftism didn't change, it just won and started showing itself for what it always was, destructive contrarianism in the name of the jews bankrolling it
Check out Eric Striker and the national justice party some time.
You would probably find more people on the "right" agreeing with you on workers rights, non-interventionism, to extent environmentalism than you would expect.
Hell, my biggest disagreement with Bernie Sanders is that he let himself get Jewed (twice!) by the other Jews that run the Democratic Party. I would have preferred Sanders in 2016 over any Republican except Trump. And one big thing I liked about Trump was his early talk about the Glass-Steagal Act.
(Which he dropped in the generals, of course.)
I didn't support anyone in 2020. Voting will not remove them.
The left is incapable and unintelligent and operates mostly on emotions which is why you got taken over by trannies. All intelligent people who could have prevented this have long stopped being leftists.
Turns out people have a better quality of life under landlords than under commissars and party bureaucrats.
That's why leftist workers paradises always have to build walls to stop the 'liberated proletariat' from fleeing leftist squalor and misery.
Warning: There is no coming back from this redpill. Once you are aware of it, you can never be a leftist again.
>I see it as a psyop, a distraction by the capitalists.
You are correct. Leftism has been hijacked or rather, sabotaged, and now completely revolves around carefully selected perpetual issues that will never be fixed.
Nogs will always be poorer because they on average are dumber, trannies will always be considered gross by a large part of the population. These are unfixable issues meant to exhaust the political capital of left wing movements. Carefully planted by neolibs who controll the media.
Someone post the occupy wall street pic with the increase in articles about racism next to it.