How strong is China militarily speaking?

never won a war against non chinks*

Nigger they literally defeated the Japanese empire

Here is the American general saying that Chinese pilots fly more hours than American pilots

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t. retard

It's their own back yard. Nobody can overpower them in their own back yard.
In a neutral ocean, of course US can project better than anyone else and has the upper hand.
In the South China Sea? Nobody can beat China there.

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Cannon fodder.

>Nigger they literally defeated the Japanese empire
Ok VPN nigger. Whatever you say.

Yeah they could probably annihilate us.

They pushed the Americans all the way back to the 38th parallel after the Americans came to close to their border

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China is constantly introducing new weapon systems into service and the rate of modernisation of their weapons and equipment is very fast

Every 5 years its like completelly different army

but people here would post videos or photos of Chinese army from 20 or 10 years ago as if they are relevant. They are not.

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China is unstoppable in a defensive war.
China sucks at offensive wars.
Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc.
Only relatively developed nation has never been successfully invaded by china.
Their entire military structure as per the PLA directive is to defend China. It's a huge defensive military.

So who attacks first will be the deciding factor.

They have a numbers advantage but any nuclear exchange will go very very badly for them on account of their terrain and population distribution. The Yellow and Yangtze will become completely uninhabitable.

If the prevailing theory is true that most advanced stuff will burn out relatively early in the War, then we're likely gonna have to hope our Navy outlasts theirs, any direct confrontation on the ground will distinctly be in their pocket.

You do realize that pilots now train on VR systems right? The US has billion dollar training sims, where they can train for more real world events then flying in fucking circles.

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You guys are completely ignoring force projection capacity. You need a blue water navy to ensure the security of global shipping. They don't have this.
In a defensive, near border war. They are OP. In an offensive war, they can't even reach the U.S. Except with ICBM's. The U.S will "win" that exchange.

>You need a blue water navy
You need to learn that literally any Mach 5+ missile (wich China has alot of) are unlikely/impossible to be intercepted. Naval power is overrated.

China doesn't need to project force, they only need to keep motherfuckers away. And they can do it with missiles launched from the ground, sea and air.
China is not looking to invade some landblocked Bolivia because they have some convoluted autistic scheme in their mind that whoever controls Bolivia - controls the world. Thats American retards who do this in Afghanistan.

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you mean the empire that was fighting a war against the united states, soviet union and British empire at the same time?

he was chinese but they never fully defeated him, because he continued to rule on taiwan.

The thread is about who would win in a war.
Without force projection China can't win.
The U.S also has fast missile boys, that can shooty shoot where China's fast missile boys are stored.
Killchain problems-You know or you don't.
The density of steel in U.S vessels-Again, you know or you don't. It's public information.
The future is certainly long range.
But winning a war from long range is a ways off. Until then, to win today. China would have needed some force projection capacity.

I wouldn't underestimate them but also this

theyre also impossible to hit moving targets with.

hypersonics were invented in the 60s, they werent used for a reason.

you also can't win war over China.
Just look at Ukraine right now - Russia can't force Ukraine into surrendering. Same will be in war of USA and China. You can't force China into surrender and if you kill a lot of Chinese, they will not accept surrender and they will continue war, they will continue to damage you wherever they can. China has force projection in the form of long range missiles and bombers and they have nuclear submarines and 3 aircraft carriers, you still have to deal with all of those and then with 1.4 billion people who will hate you guts.
Russia will support China with grain and weapons in this war, there is not doubt about it.

We also have missile boys that shootyshoot.

>You couldn't beat China.
Probably not.
It seems retarded to even try. We have factories there.

why would they use anything but ICBM's?

i constantly have to ask - from what platforms. These missiles you have don't appear out of thin air, they have platforms that can be targeted by China.
if its a ship - China can target your ship and touch it. If its an airfield, China can reach and touch it and crater it.

based ivan understands my government better than my countrymen do

And if war starts China can repurpose all of the factories into producing millitary gear. Imagine GigaTesla factory repurposed into producing tanks, lol

you /had/ factories there

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