What are your ACTUAL thoughts on public healthcare? Euro and Leaf responses encouraged

What are your ACTUAL thoughts on public healthcare? Euro and Leaf responses encouraged.

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Healthcare is mostly scam in my country.

Doesn't water and food get priority over all else? With owning land/house as a close second? Yet nobody claims that as a human right. Rather an individual right, so we could put a price on it. Water is relatively cheap, but it isn't free. It isn't a human right.

It works in white countries with strong immigration and border control. It doesn't work outside of such circumstances.

Americans are too fat and unhealthy to make it work, let it be a state-by-state thing with the federal government providing subsidies rather than full-on funding for a nation-wide program. We already spend nearly 50% of the federal budget on healthcare alone.

This too. Need to close the borders and cut off benefits for illegals before we can have serious conversations about expansive Great Society programs again.

Anything that must be given to you cannot be a right. Rights are things that cannot be taken away. If you must give something to some one, it's not a right because some one must provide that service. If some one is providing that service, and it's a right of yours to get that service, then the provider MUST provide the service. If some one must do something with out the ability to say no, that is slavery.

Overall it’s okay. The big problem though is junkies and shit just abusing the system. Now with harm reduction programs they’re in full control and abuse the system for years and years with no repercussions and get free narcotics to pedal on the street. Gays also get free HIV meds which is pretty shit. The bigger problem though is the unionization of nurses. Most are lazy roasties and Karen’s that no concept of work or duty.

They fixed up my nose from all the drugs I put up it in my teens.

i hear some people say "universal healthcare would actually SAVE us money" which even if that is true(sounds retardedly untrue), I wanted to see if it's actually WORTH it.

>give American federal politicians and their cronies even more control
No thanks

It's not a right. Nothing that requires the labor of others is a right.

i'm ok with it so long as i continue to make 250k annually

t. doctor

It's a scam. It may be free on paper but you pay for it with higher taxes.

making somone do something for you is not a right

America didn't do public healthcare, it just made the American system mandatory.

The American system of both medicine and education is that you pay for one teacher/doctor and then you pay for twenty cubicle workers who do nothing for you and nothing for your teacher/doctor. America will leave you with a bureaucrat and no doctor before it leaves you with a doctor and no bureaucrat - in fact that's Obamacare in a nutshell.

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For the chuds on here the idea of public health is a big hard NO because

>herp derp Uh nIgGeR mIgHt gEt iT
>*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

So yeah. White racists. Shitpiles of the universe.

Not feasible unless you remove fats, spics, niggers, faggots, and druggies from society.

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It's better than living is burgerland anyways. The only problem with free health care occurs when people stop caring about being healthy.

Killing niggers is a human right

Everything is a human right because I put human right after it

But Europe has plenty of those does it not. It has to be something else.

I don't believe it's a right. Healthcare, like education, is a privilege of living in a civilized nation. Public healthcare would be a privilege of working and paying taxes.

They're right in one regard because healthcare industries jew insurance companies out of millions of dollars (here goy pay $1000 plus tip to ride in an ambulance)

The pro:
You won’t go broke if someone in your family gets some fucked up disease.
The con:
The wait times are absurd. If your situation is not absolutely dire you will sit in the ER for minimum 8 hours before you get help.
I broke my hand, my gf had a minor stroke from the clot shot, and my buddy took a baseball to the face. All of those situations were full day ordeals sitting among people tripping on drugs for hours and hours waiting to see the doc. And try to get a neurologist right now, they are booking for 2023 now.
I will say to be fair though, I had a severe hand injury which required many visits to hospital and surgery and every single person I dealt with - over 50 in all - was excellent and caring and competent.
Maybe that was an anomaly, but we do have people who are legitimately trying to do a good job, they are just very overwhelmed. I’m in a large western Canadian city so it’s probably better in small towns.

I think college tuition inflation and student debt have shown that taking market forces completely out of something can absolutely ruin it. On the other hand, nobody has time to make rational market decisions when they've just been stabbed three times in the abdomen and are bleeding out.

I think emergency care should be fully socialized (it effectively already is) but anything that's not immediately deadly should be subject to a private market even if it's still subsidized, ala Singapore.

Also, all insurance companies should have their assets seized, their accounts closed and their boards arrested.

They have sandniggers, actual niggers and plenty of faggots, but it pales in comparison to the smelly goblin spics that pour into the corpse of America every day. Plus, we are much fatter than they are because our goyslop is much worse.

-only works in White countries
-needs private healthcare on the side as an alternative so people don't have to only depend on public
-private needs an insurance system for individuals and companies, so workers get to use private healthcare paid for by the employer's company insurance, thus ensuring almost every worker gets to use private healthcare paid by insurance companies while public is left mainly for children, pregnant women, unemployed, pensioners etc.

That's how it works in Finland, it's pretty great, but immigration has ruined a part of the public side in some places (varies greatly from city to city, the more shitskins, the worse it is).

I agree that healthcare is a human right
I disagree that FREE healthcare is a human right
I think nationalized healthcare systems only work in a homogenous high trust society in which people are productive and care about their communities.
I think the united states is too "diverse" with too many nonproductive minorities and too low trust for a functional nationalized healthcare system.
I think cities or counties that want to attempt socialized healthcare should vote on the issue locally, funding it with their own money and without the aid of federal taxpayer dollars.

Healthcare should be on a charitable, non-profit basis, headed by religious institutions. only people who understand spiritual health should undertake healing practices.
Public Healthcare = treat everything, spend everything, save obese gay tranny incest retards.
Private Healthcare = keep you sick forever.

Oh no, he's right: Europe's system is collapsing because of all the shitskins, no mistake about that. A combined public/private healthcare system can only work and be sustainable in White countries. Add shitskins and it becomes unsustainable. It won't collapse instantly but over time, the erosion will eventually cause the system to become infeasible, which is happening all over Europe now.

On one hand I think it's a good idea. However I do like to see unnecessary american suffering, so there's that.

I care for my own health. Not sure what that has to do with Healthcare from the government but I know for a fact, I do not trust the government. I will continue to care for myself thank you very much. Rights or not.

>public
shouldve privately treated your body like you live in it

What do you mean collapsing? Longer wait times? Rush job care?