Tell a tankie that says Capitalism exploits workers to make their own business or become self-employed...

Tell a tankie that says Capitalism exploits workers to make their own business or become self-employed. Watch them crumble when you tell them to actually follow on their bluff of seizing the means of production by working for themselves.

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I think they more want to see economy wide changes for everyone because they think that communism is the most fair system. I don't really see how it's fair to pay people the same wage when a lot of jobs are totally different and some are considerably harder and require more effort than others. Sometimes it sounds more like they're talking about communalism instead of communism which they could probably just do now on their own

True but if they can’t work for themselves, it proves they’re not ready for any kind of communism.

>what are barriers to entry
>what is most businesses fail

Oh! Good! Good! So you admit working for yourself is difficult, right? So you shouldn’t mind a system where you can take the easy route and opt to work for someone else instead

I am worried about the low wages being paid by the owners.

Seizing the means of production often means like a revolution. I'm not even communist but I cannot seize a car factory and making my own cars in my backyard is, um, stupid?

Well then you shouldn’t mind taking the hard route which has higher risk

In that case, you would be right. However, that statement also just proved Capitalism is more effective

>just take the route that has a high chance of failure