Is it true that freemasons used to be the good guys at some point in history?

Not the first time I hear opinions that freemasons somehow got subverted by kikes?
Any user reserached this topic?

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No it was always a wicked organization for niggers and fags

masons were fags from day 1

Not as gay as Swedes

Anyone who the NSDAP hated I hate.

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i’m 24 and right there with you, I think the gen z cutoff determines whether or not you can get it. the millennials are just too old

Based.
But I still have a feeling those occult cunts have some more interesting story about them then just being secretive pedos and faggots from the start.

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Whoa bigot, I just have "alternative ideology".

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The question you need to ask yourself is when were they ever the bad guys?

Every other organisation with clandestine masonic fraternities within them are denounced. Orange Order? Denounced. Skull and Bones? Denounced.

The Grand Orient of France was ostracised due to corruption. Same with Italy. They had to make new Grand Lodges to appease the Grand Lodge of England, Scotland and Ireland. Those Grand Lodges are called the Founders or Freemasonry and they determine what is and what isn't Freemasonry. It was those 3 that forced the American Grand Lodges for all the different states to let in Black people. The ones that don't aren't recognised as legit, same with Grand Lodges that only allow Christians.

All that mad conspiracy bullshit they have said is nothing to do with them and other Grand Lodges they see as legitimate.

I was curious about it and went on their subreddit and there is a surprising amount of shit they are willing to talk about. Apparently there is a document that was released in the 30s called the Aims and Relationships of the Craft which was a response to the Nazis and other Anti-masons calling them Kikes so maybe google that and read it.

THE CHINESE HAVE CONSPIRED WITH FEDERAL US GOVERNMENT TO INVADE AMERICA BY
1. GENERAL GUANGXIN OF PLA BUYING LANDING STRIPS AT GRAND FORKS AND MORNING STAR RANCH
2. UPGRADING THE RUNWAY TO 10000 FT TO ACCOMMODATE LARGE AIRCRAFT
3. GETTING TAPPED INTO THE ELECTRICAL GRID WITH ACCESS CODES
4. LEAVING 85 BILLION OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN AFGHANISTAN
5. SENDING MILITARY RESOURCES TO UKRAINE FOR POLITICAL STRUGGLE
6. REMOVING FIGHTER JET PILOTS AND WARRIORS FROM THE MILITARY WITH VACCINATION REQUIREMENTS
7. USING MASS SHOOTINGS AS AN ATTEMPT TO CURTAIL GUN PRIVILEGES FROM AMERICANS
8. SELLING OUR STRATEGIC OIL RESERVES TO CHINA

THEY SHUT DOWN THE BOARD TWICE TODAY FOR HOURS AT A TIME FROM ALL POSTS TO HIDE THIS - IGNORE ALL THE ALIEN, ADL LEAK, INCEL, AI IMAGE SPAMMING, NIGGER, COOMER, CLIMATE CHANGE, LEGALIZE WHORES, SILVER SHILLING, TRANNY, EVOLA, AND WEED SLIDE THREADS

MASONRY IS IDOLATRY AND IS INHERENTLY JEWISH

It's an off shoot of earlier secret societies, which did their utmost to crush the Jew. It was created by Jews, for Jews, for the whole purpose of integrating the aristocracy of the white nations into submission of power, by unawareness. Quite impressive that it actually works.

Take away the white man of his history and culture, take away his Christian God, and use same god ideology but in a different concept. Ensure they actually get to fuck children while climbing the ranks, while thinking it holds mythical and ritual meaning, and 100 years later the Jew owns the whole western hemisphere.

The white man deserves nothing else but to actually meet the false Jewish prophecy in afterlife. True human Goya filth.

this water fucked up?

in pre modern time. skilled artisans and engineers
did create "secret societies" for the perpetuation are guarding of their part skill
in the most accient societies they found that metal working was a secret skill handed down withing families. and that the were villages that exclusively worked on metal working finding tools and forges in every house while all of the surrounding area's had none. in later times these became very elaborate guilds and secret societies.
actual Masonry (as in the skill of stone construction) was always an incredibly valuable and sought after skill.
and particularly with masons, held both prestige and a vital skill needed by rulers and nobles
with all that being said, when ever they formed their religious and ritual embellishments they were fairly intertwined with judaism.
considering the fact that more than most things, large construction project require large upfront investments, so its likely jews and masons already had close ties.
also its amusing to note. it areas of enlgand that had jews living before their expulsion, all the houses in the town or village would be wood, except the jews who even the smallest house was build like a stone fortress.

Some of them are just truth keepers, but the devil lies with the truth

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>Quoting the Grand Lodge that literally got dissolved for being retarded
I've looked it up, they were literally retarded. UGLE and GLoS and I basically told them "no".

What is the meaning of this esoteric testicle picture?

>gnostisism
based

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Freemasons and Kekek both did things for the community.
Some churches are started by masons of all denominations. Good and bad in evryone.

That's me, except 30. Why is it coined extremist? What is extreme about that?

>considering the fact that more than most things, large construction project require large upfront investments, so its likely jews and masons already had close ties.
It apparently to do with the fact that Stonemason guilds used to teach apprentices stories about the bulding of King Solomons Temple (because stonemason guilds originate from back then) as a way to teach them about the importance of perseverance and being patient, etc.

Which is all mostly ripped straight out of the Torah.

Jews were all just rich enough to build stone houses because they were greedy fucking kikes.

That's one way to look at it, but very naive. Of you, as participant, in these degenerate clubs cannot realise the end result of all relations in the group, then your naivete.

>Quite impressive that it actually works.
It's extected really.
>Ensure they actually get to fuck children while climbing the ranks, while thinking it holds mythical and ritual meaning
In my opinion, it's one of those psychological manipulations that kikes use to make members of those secret societies "commited". Because if someone fucks a child, now he feels that he can't go back to normal people, now he is in this circle of people who fuck children too.
Idk about euros, but here in my third world shithole, a similar tactic is used by sects (Russia has a big fucking problem with sects because of corruption, goverment backs the largests of them) - they tell people """""""""""""secret knowledge""""""""""""" like water having memory or other pseudo-science bullshit or conspiracy theories (never about kikes tho lmao). So people who go there start thinking they are now special snowflakes and not the dumb crowd. One year later they sell their possesions and lose everything and more, I've seen people do this to their lives myself.
So nobody, not regular people, not the elites are safe from expert liers.

...then your naivete will not be an excuse in the eye of God.

Star of David with 2 more triangles rotated left and right shows the 12 dimensions of the universe that are projected from the 13th dimension in the centre, in which you consciousness and heaven lie. The physical world is just a projection of the source/13th dimension, so you can affect the physical world by affecting the source. This is why Freemasons do rituals like 9/11 (2001, 2 becoming 1), they believe they can affect reality by feeding specific information back to the source. But this might just be the devil tricking them into thinking they have power when it’s really him

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In my opinion, it's one of those psychological manipulations that kikes use to make members of those secret societies "commited".

Yep, and I think it follows mythical cabbalistic practices in regards to karma and etc. Ensure the Goya themselves bring upon the destruction of their own kind.

>Aims and Relationships of the Craft
Interesting. I didn't know about this. Thanks user

In a world of lies, speaking the truth is the act of an extremist.

That's interesting.

In regards to situations like 9/11, I wouldn't be surprised if the white man actually was fed this bullshit and believing it. The Jew show no shame in ensuring degeneracy rests deep in the white man's mind to the point where they simply push the the degenerated behaviour further and further.

Look at the LGBT psychosis and how it has accelerated last 10 years. Soon attacking LGBT will, in legal terms, be anti semetic.