but it should tell you how lazy and negligent the western mainstream press is. (INB4 @##%#TIANANMEN TAIWAN SPAM $$#% the word Tiananmen is literally on the OP.)
>Over the last decade, many American reporters and editors have accepted a mythical version of that warm, bloody night. They repeated it often before and during Clinton’s trip. On the day the president arrived in Beijing, a Baltimore Sun headline (June 27, page 1A) referred to “Tiananmen, where Chinese students died.” A USA Today article (June 26, page 7A) called Tiananmen the place “where pro-democracy demonstrators were gunned down.” The Wall Street Journal (June 26, page A10) described “the Tiananmen Square massacre” where armed troops ordered to clear demonstrators from the square killed “hundreds or more.” The New York Post (June 25, page 22) said the square was “the site of the student slaughter.”
>The problem is this: as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.
>A few people may have been killed by random shooting on streets near the square, but all verified eyewitness accounts say that the students who remained in the square when troops arrived were allowed to leave peacefully. Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances.
>The Chinese government estimates more than 300 fatalities. Western estimates are somewhat higher. Many victims were shot by soldiers on stretches of Changan Jie, the Avenue of Eternal Peace, about a mile west of the square, and in scattered confrontations in other parts of the city, where, it should be added, a few soldiers were beaten or burned to death by angry workers.
In the pic you can see the CIA mascot having a friendly chat with the tank commander
"The more schizo a conspiracy theory, the more it approximates a comic book story."
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Jayden Sanders
all non sequiters kill yourself
Juan Thomas
Ok Chang.
Oliver Gonzalez
>The resilient tale of an early morning Tiananmen massacre stems from several false eyewitness accounts in the confused hours and days after the crackdown. Human rights experts George Black and Robin Munro, both outspoken critics of the Chinese government, trace many of the rumor’s roots in their 1993 book, Black Hands of Beijing: Lives of Defiance in China’s Democracy Movement. Probably the most widely disseminated account appeared first in the Hong Kong press: a Qinghua University student described machine guns mowing down students in front of the Monument to the People’s Heroes in the middle of the square. The New York Times gave this version prominent display on June 12, just a week after the event, but no evidence was ever found to confirm the account or verify the existence of the alleged witness. Times reporter Nicholas Kristof challenged the report the next day, in an article that ran on the bottom of an inside page; the myth lived on. Student leader Wu’er Kaixi said he had seen 200 students cut down by gunfire, but it was later proven that he left the square several hours before the events he described allegedly occurred.
How many times have we been shown this picture of the CIA mascot standing defiantly against the backdrop of a column of CCP tanks with no further context provided? We were prodded like cattle, cajoled like swollen blue balls, ministered upon presumptously as if the CIA mascot had indeed been bowled over by roving tanks. (the tanks were exiting the square, not entering it)
Why is it illegal to discuss Tianmen square in China? If it's fake it should be easy to just dispel the rumor right?
Ayden Smith
>Most of the hundreds of foreign journalists that night, including me, were in other parts of the city or were removed from the square so that they could not witness the final chapter of the student story. Those who tried to remain close filed dramatic accounts that, in some cases, buttressed the myth of a student massacre.
>For example, CBS correspondent Richard Roth’s story of being arrested and removed from the scene refers to “powerful bursts of automatic weapons, raging gunfire for a minute and a half that lasts as long as a nightmare.” Black and Munro quote a Chinese eyewitness who says the gunfire was from army commandos shooting out the student loudspeakers at the top of the monument. A BBC reporter watching from a high floor of the Beijing Hotel said he saw soldiers shooting at students at the monument in the center of the square. But as the many journalists who tried to watch the action from that relatively safe vantage point can attest, the middle of the square is not visible from the hotel.
>A common response to this corrective analysis is: So what? The Chinese army killed many innocent people that night. Who cares exactly where the atrocities took place? That is an understandable, and emotionally satisfying, reaction. Many of us feel bile rising in our throats at any attempt to justify what the Chinese leadership and a few army commanders did that night.
>But consider what is lost by not giving an accurate account of what happened, and what such sloppiness says to Chinese who are trying to improve their press organs by studying ours. The problem is not so much putting the murders in the wrong place, but suggesting that most of the victims were students. Black and Munro say “what took place was the slaughter not of students but of ordinary workers and residents — precisely the target that the Chinese government had intended.” They argue that the government was out to suppress a rebellion of workers, who were much more numerous and had much more to be angry about than the students. This was the larger story that most of us overlooked or underplayed.
Yes, control. We can't really prove anything happened in China because they can simply remove something from history. Therefore all we really have is what we know about how China operates.
Evan Parker
>Indian flag >Amerimutt flag No one cares about Amerimutt lies that are so lazily drawn up, full of holes and shortlegged Amerimutts have to spend Billions of Dollars to astroturf them and keep them alive. Fuck off.
>It is hard to find a journalist who has not contributed to the misimpression. Rereading my own stories published after Tiananmen, I found several references to the “Tiananmen massacre.” At the time, I considered this space-saving shorthand. I assumed the reader would know that I meant the massacre that occurred in Beijing after the Tiananmen demonstrations. But my fuzziness helped keep the falsehood alive. Given enough time, such rumors can grow even larger and more distorted. When a journalist as careful and well-informed as Tim Russert, NBC’s Washington bureau chief, can fall prey to the most feverish versions of the fable, the sad consequences of reportorial laziness become clear. On May 31 on Meet the Press, Russert referred to “tens of thousands” of deaths in Tiananmen Square.
>The facts of Tiananmen have been known for a long time. When Clinton visited the square this June, both The Washington Post and The New York Times explained that no one died there during the 1989 crackdown. But these were short explanations at the end of long articles. I doubt that they did much to kill the myth.
The NyTimes appending tiny corrections at the end of long winded posts. They've been doing this for a long time.
>mass responds both those saying it never happened and those who claim it did >no one posted with Indian flag >claims it's all amerimutt lies The bot broke
Ewww. TSA paid extra attention to that kid's lower body.
Juan Miller
CIA color revolution, good thing they did what we should do here and beat the shit out of those college kids
Oliver Fisher
That guy has the best job in the world as far as hes concerned
Sebastian Hall
If china was so great chinks like you wouldnt have to constantly shill for it so much.
Noah Allen
kys retards and glowniggers
Luis Peterson
Hey Chink, kys.
Isaiah Long
I personally know someone that lost both their legs to one of the tanks, you retarded chink faggot.
Ethan Ross
Actually the CCP was right for running over protestors with tanks. God bless the CCP, they're doing a better job killing soulless chinks than we would.
Austin Cox
Mao Zedong is based for killing 50 million chinamen.
Joshua Martin
you aint shit, bug. go suck a nigger off, you mutt
