Is raping the unconscious a crime?

I was surprised with the backlash that Brazil suffered because of a local physician violating a woman's mouth while she was in labour. First, because there was no penetration involved, therefore there was no actual rape; second, because he had "raped" up to twenty unconscious women before and no one cared besides a jealous zoomer nurse who did not get the memo about rape etiquette; third, because had it not been for her film evidence, it would have been a victimless crime since no trace of the defilement remained and the victims would never recall what happened.

I don't understand how can something be a crime if no trace of damage is left behind. For me, a crime requires actual and important victimization. Leaving an appendicitis surgery with semen from multiple men inside you and a sore ass is, I'm sorry to break it down to you, not relevant victimization. An actual victimization would be if the physician team had decided to let you die rather than rape you and then save your life.

What I assert is that raping the unconscious only becomes a crime if it is recorded or if it leaves STDs / impregnation behind, since there is actual litigy as the act was recorded / left evidence and serves as an embarrassment for the victim.

A crime requires victimization. If the victim cannot identify themselves as a victim, there should be no crime.

Am I wrong?

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Shit thread, didn't read. Learn how to green text.

Can we see video?

COOM Do not rape

Unconscious man's asshole has no owner.

This is the video that caused the whole backlash. The victim and her husband had no idea of what had happened during the child delivery. Sadly, the entire event was tapped and now the birth of the child will forever be recalled as a nightmare.

The real victimization here is of the nurse towards the woman in labour.

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old russian army doctrine?

I'm actually trying to stir debate here.

I'm sorry this is not your stupid tranny-related / anime / haircut / fashion thread that Any Forums is so enamoured with. I am actually trying to justify the unfair backlash that Brazil has been receiving over this episode and how fragile our definition of crime creates more victims rather than protect them.

You can't tell me the life of the woman in the video would have been worse if she had not been tapped being raped. She is a victim of the nurse's revenge porn because her physician boyfriend didn't want to sedate her.

As a matter of fact, the coomer (Giovanni) has been growing in popularity, having gained 10k+ female followers on Instagram since the alleged rape.

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>wall of text after wall of fucking text

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Low attention spam impedes you from reading more than two sentences.

I'm sorry.

Go back to Twitter.

bump

why are you like this?

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Still no explanation of what is wrong about us.

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>me stuffing my potentially disease ridden monkey dick in your mouth while you're incapacitated is a victimless crime if no one video records it
>Brazilians are human

retard

Let them figure out out. If you give them the answer, they'll never learn. Eventually the thought of "what if that was my wife or mother or daughter" MAY enter their mind. Hideously enough, being okay with this makes OP a cuckold.

The fact that you have to ask if raping people is bad, makes you a subhuman.
A society that condones raping people is equally subhuman.

There is nothing to discuss, you won't convince non-retards that raping is ok.

OP is either bating or is the biggest good damn retard I’ve ever encountered on this board in all my years of coming to this shithole. And for that reason I’m not even gonna dignify his lost with an explanation of what is wrong with this scenario because I’m not gonna fall for it if it’s bait, and if he’s really this fucking stupid no explanation I could give would be within his realm of comprehension. So I just dropped in to say, OP you are a god damn retard.

Macacos are truly perverse

A faggot mouthrapes you in your sleep, was it rape? Idiot

If they're anything like niggers they wont give a shit if it's their mother or daughter and would likely do it to them too.

Multiculturalism erodes any sense of morals or ethics, and ((media)) removes the visceral and emotional component of life. It’s disgusting, but at least we can take solace in the fact that a system in which humanity has been so hollowed out won’t last long before collapsing.

Females become microchimeras when exposed to semen. So no, it's not victimless. If those women reproduce in the future the baby will have a little bit of the doctor's DNA.

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It's not a crime if you don't get caught

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>Bumps his own thread
You are a degenerate, a faggot, a macaque and worse, a brazilian
Sage

Of course not sir, you can only get punished if you leave some evidence

You're begging the question.

I explicitly said the dick must not be disease-ridden in order for it to be a victimless crime.

> a body of an unconscious mind isn't theirs
if you are unconscious due to your own fault (alcohol, drugs etc), you are asking for it.

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Not an argument.

Any Forums would unironically enjoy being conscious and raped and taped more than being raped while unconscious? Which do you think it is worse? If nobody knows about it (not even you), did it really happen?

user you are correct
The only reason it was a crime was because evidence was collected
If nobody saw a video nobody would know it was true
Nobody would believe the one nurses word
Without proof there is no crime

>3rd world mentality on display

This is logic 101.

By OP the nurse is actually the criminal as she turned the woman (and her husband) into victims instead of ignorants.
In my mind, the obscuration of truth is morally wrong, so performing this sexual action in secret cannot justify the perception of this being a victimless crime.

>The only reason it was a crime was because evidence was collected
>If nobody saw a video nobody would know it was true

Things like these will probably be used to fill even the very last bits of human living space with surveillance cameras.

>WE NEED TO SURVEIL YOUR BIRTH
>literally born under a surveillance camera

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>unfair backlash
Seems pretty justified to me you stupid monkey. Raping people is obviously bad, but I wouldn't expect a Brazilian to understand.