Which is worse: NYC or Seattle?

Does Seattle smell of feces? If not, then you have your answer.

OP is already an incel, ugly, sexless ...

And he wants to move to Seattle, a place known for the "Seattle freeze".

It isn't going to work out for yoy

Honestly as a blue collar dude that lived there
I got a ton of pussy
I would hang out at my local bar, talk to women who showed up
and within 5 minutes they would be telling me how much they HATE tech workers
how men never talk to them and only want to use tinder
and 8/10 times they would come home with me, or go out with me that week then come home with me

Oh yeah and the women are incredibly loose which is bad for society.

It does on the street. Its just another San Fransisco at this point. It was decent before the 1970s.

yeah no shit retard
society is over
you will not live to see a trad paradise

I lived in Portland for 5yrs. Late 90s/early 2000s. Any Portland anons in here? What happened? What's it like now?
t. In NH now.

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The Pacific Northwest was so fucking WHITE, like goofy nerd white. Must have been fucking glorious.

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I still have hope, im not completely nihilistic about it. But its not in Seattle. Midwest still cares about tradition.

I was in Seattle from 2013-2018
would go down to Portland a few times a year
First time I went was 2011, it was grungy and had the classic hordes of semi homeless hippy kids and bums

but every year since like 2016 it has gotten darker and more violent
to the point now where gun violence is a serious problem and I would never enter the city without my carry
It has fallen worse than Seattle

Its still white majority but for how long I dont know. Its mostly asian in terms of second highest ethnicities, vietmanese.

>Midwest still cares about tradition
half or more of the loose women in seattle came from the midwest
The midwest is an economically depressed pit of drugs and poverty
and the sexual morales there are no better than anywhere else
You just get christian kids who get married at 20 then divorce at 25-28

Sad story.
It was fucking beautiful when I was there. I loved it. Sucks. Watching what has happened from the east coast has not been fun for me.
On the flip side, glad I didn't stay and make a life there.

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PNW has been FLOODed with spics recently
the white % of WA is dropping as fast as Canada
OR is by far the whitest state left on the west coast though

>picrel
2020 was the nail in the coffin for Portland without a doubt
but 2016 was when the major decline was noticeable
and the anti trump leftist mobs started to rule

I agree entirely. Lot of wetbacks coming in.

Damn that sucks. I guess Im a little bit idealistic about peoples morals.

New York as a pompous bourgeois flavor of leftism and Seattle as a mentally ill flavor of leftism

It was. There was one black kid in my kindergarten in north Seattle, and he was a crack baby from a prostitute that they had to bus in for diversity purposes. He was the most violent, retarded nigger I'd ever met, he must have redpilled so many kids. I drove by my old elementary school the other day at recess and maybe 40% of the kids were white. It's so depressing, but I feel most for the zoomers who never knew what cultural cohesion ever felt like.

NYC has more crime

well stick to your guns if that's how you want to live
you will have to be stoic as hell though
good luck brother

Seattle represents the self-sabotaging white American left perfectly. They can have shootings, have to step over OD'd homeless corpses, drive around mentally ill bums ranting in the middle of the street, etc. and they'll think everything is just fine. Not my problem.

And WA/OR have good gun laws still, more or less
I think WA just pulled some shit
but I could carry and buy whatever I wanted when I lived there
and used my CC more than once

Download Seattle and NYC are now both hobo, drug addict and crime filled shitholes with half naked crackheads going wild 24/7

However at least in Seattle you can live in the surrounding burbs which are nice, or like mercer island if you've got money. NYC there's nowhere to go except Jersey or take a commuter train everyday out of the city upstate or to long island or something.

nyc is obviously better it has literally everything you can think of there. its a world city.
seattle really is small, and gets boring quick. also the m:f ratio is terrible here, while nyc has way more women than men.

you cant even compare these two cities to be honest.
nyc has like 4,000,000 white people, seattle has 400,000. literally 10x less.

t. live in seattle metro arae

*Downtown
Oops
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>“What you are seeing in Seattle is disaster. This is pure disaster. Crime is out of control in Seattle,”

When I was there in the 90s, you could still glimpse remnants of what it was probably like in the 70s. It always just reminded me of white nerdy science teachers and forestry workers.
Powell's bookstore still had a rare books room up above the coffee shop, where you were allowed to hold and thumb through books worth over $1000. That's how high trust thr place still was.
I'm certain that's all gone now.
Fuck everything.
Any Portland anons can confirm they are closing the fucking Rose Garden?

>also the m:f ratio is terrible here
the tech worker outs himself
you are correct though, NYC has one of the best F-M rations in the nation

In seattle I did fine because I wasn't a tech faggot though
and I wont trade the nature in the PNW for all the diseased NYC pussy in the world

>u can live in the surrounding burbs which are nice
the surrounding burbs are nice only if you like staying at home all day which u can do anywhere pretty much. theres nothing to do except walk around your neighborhood of virtue signalling blm extremist liberals

>nothing to do
dude you are an hour away from unlimted incredible hikes, skiing, the olympic penn
kayaking
holy shit you're a fat faggot

>seattle

737k but yeah not even a million.

Metro is 4 million though if your using that metric.

Cost of living user
Jew York if you live in the city will tax you to death on top of state taxes. Then there's trying to rent/buy a place which is impossible unless you get far from all burroughs

I interned there a few years ago during de Blasio's reign to write programs on wallstreet. Everywhere you went stank of urine with bums passed out everywhere, I made lot's of money but half of it went to just basic living costs.

Suburbs in general are boring as shit. And if you dont have a car your fucked.

i said white people. the city is 60% white, so around 400k
>dude you are an hour away from unlimted incredible hikes, skiing, the olympic penn
kayaking
yeahhh bro nature man!! fucking hippy fag, go smoke some weed brooo

see you are why the M-F ratio in Seattle was not a problem for me lmao

>The nature
It really is fuciing otherworldly. You can't explain it to someone who has never been there. The trees are fucking mythological. And to explain 12-14,000ft free standing volcanic mountains blazing pink off the horizon at sunrise fucking 100 miles away from you. There reallybare no words.
And then you climb them and look up at night, brightest fucking stars I have ever seen. And watching the moon set, staring down off the mountain through so much atmosphere it turns blood red before slipping beneath the horizon.
You have to experience it to understand.
I am getting goosebumps remembering.

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