Do incels have a point, Any Forums?

Whenever I see women interact with a dude who is short, has autism, even just average-looking facially, whatever - they give him one word answers, literally don't call him by his name (they just say You or even talk to him in third person, it's fucked up).

Meanwhile when they interact with a 6'4" dude, who is maybe good-looking as well, they literally cannot contain their shiteating grin. They are suddenly so talkative, they ask him questions about the most mundane things, guy does not even have to do anything, women just take over the conversation. Most men can't even fathom the fact that the tall attractive guys out there literally get approached BY women - they don't have to do the asking out, they GET asked out BY cute girls.

It is NOT about "muh confidence" or "muh abundance mindset" or "muh personality!". It's TOTALLY about looks (that is, height, face, frame, body.) And if you're "confident" as a manlet or an ugly guy, you WILL get checked and put into your place by people, or laughed at. Manlets who go to the gym get laughed at too, and seen as compensating. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-gym, obviously if you have the height + face, going to the gym 100% will help you, women love abs - but for normal dudes, it won't get them any girls)

On top of that, when I go outside, when I see young couples the guy is almost ALWAYS 6'1 and above. Occasionally 5'11 dudes with super handsome faces. The only tall single guys I see are ones who are just flat out ugly or balding or something, but it seems like you need to be 6'1 nowadays to even have a CHANCE. And no matter what your height - if you have a shit jawline, if your hairline is even slightly receding, or anything - fucking FORGET about it.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is:
What incentive do average-looking men even have nowadays to participate in society?

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Also, I feel like zoomers are kind of aware of this now. Most millenials and boomers were bluepilled, but zoomers seem to 100% understand the utter importance of facial aesthetics and looks and abs and hair and height. You can go on TikTok and zoomers are literally WORSHIPPING height and facial aesthetics. Literally, that's what 90% of TikTok is, just genetically gifted people staring at the camera and attaining millions of likes.

Beauty has become apotheosis.

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This is why the BBC wins

I bet you if you measured IQ it would fall along the same line with these two measurements.

Actually IQ determines personality AND looks

A good argument when faggots come out saying:

>"Duuuude, hypergamy is totally based. Women are filtering out the bad genetics. It's good!"

Is this BBC shit.

I go outside and see it every day. White women are unironically going out with disgustingly ugly, dumb, impulsive, low IQ niggers because their netflix shows and hip hop music they listen to programmed them into it.

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>do they have a point
yes

>What incentive do average-looking men even have nowadays to participate in society?
none

>what's to be done?
nothing

>why are we here, just to suffer?
yes

>but...but...but, surely this has a happy ending?
I hear talking, but I don't hear suffering! Hop to it you fucking sub-5 human filth.

>I'll kill you all!
lol lmao, no you wont. And it'll change nothing even if you did.

You must live in some plebbit spaced nightmare in your head. White women are the most racist group by a wide margin according to okcupid which is the stats your used to begin with

>I bet you if you measured IQ it would fall along the same line with these two measurements.
How? Are you retarded?
>Actually IQ determines personality AND looks
Yeah, no.
Your IQ doesn't change your height or your facial structure.
AFAIK studies have shown that the higher IQ, the more likely you are to get no pussy actually. (FYI I'm not one of those copers that say that attractive people are low IQ, but studies do show that higher IQs get less pussy and lose virginity later if I recall correctly).

Let me guess: you're one of those Any Forumstard copers that's an absolute failure in all aspects of life but clings to the idea of you at least having a high IQ. "Muh IQ! At least I'm high IQ. I'm misunderstood"
Many, many such cases.

Incels are faulires and not smart at all. If they were smart, they would put some of that brainpower into learng social skills. Instead, most are stubborn bitter losers who refuse to think that they themselves are the problem. Women may be trash, but incels are the losers who can't get trash.

You sound bitter, Chud. The truth is it’s one of the perks of being on the Right Side of History is, women will flock to you and echo your progressive points of view. Sucks being a Chud like you.

I see attractive white girls dating retarded niggers in high school and I continue to see it. I am a zoomer, so perhaps things were different in older generations, as statistics seem to suggest, but it's different for zoomer girls. From birth they've been bombarded with nigger music, nigger propaganda, watching netflix all day which shows niggers as smart and cool and in relationships with white girls in every fucking show.

Fun fact: 2 days ago I walked in on my little sister (9 years old) watching Netflix and the line I heard was LITERALLY, not exaggerating at all: "She's a powerful black women and not gonna take shit from some priviliged white asshole!"

White girls have been totally mindfucked and programmed since birth through media to hate white people and worship niggers. Most white girls still do date white guys, but there is an increasingly significant amount of white girls dating retarded niggers with every passing year, and it's no longer ignorable, I see it when I leave my house daily. I live in Texas if you're curious.

Retarded post. Yes social skills will help if you're a sperg who can't talk to women, but they aren't going to make women sexually attracted to you.

Lmao

I do agree that it is rare to see short men with women in public, but it does depend on where you go. like if you go somewhere like whole foods, oddly, you will be more likely to see short men with normal women, but if you go to some mega grocery store, short men are typically not seen with women.

i think it is a refinement thing. cruder people look at things in an overly simplistic manner. thinks like okcupid or any other matching apps are just the bottom of the barrel in terms of people.

i think you are in a very negative mental state over things. the simple fact is that you need to find someone you sympathize with and there is no guarantee you will. plus, many people get together with people that hate, that's why half of all marriages end in divorce, at least. so imagine being a "tall handsome rich guy" and then she just breaks up with you when you're 36 or 40. then what? so that isn't all there is to life, is looks. besides, have you seen most women? vast majority are unattractive, and the attractive ones get less attractive with age. so it isn't like they have much leverage in the grand scheme. they just want someone to take care of them and make them feel less insecure about their self image.

you're an incel in denial tho right?

>Most men can't even fathom the fact that the tall attractive guys out there literally get approached BY women - they don't have to do the asking out, they GET asked out BY cute girls.
Oh shit, I must be attractive since this happens to me. Nice.

> 20 years old data
Hip hop, social media, and porn have conditioned a generation of white girls.
Don’t worry champ you’ll have your turn after she’s done riding the carousel

>It is NOT about "muh confidence" or "muh abundance mindset" or "muh personality!". It's TOTALLY about looks
you went into a non sequitur

>Women maybe trash

Women ARE trash

If white women are this easy to trick, why dont white men trick them back?

Nigger answer: Because white people are weak, sad, losers!!
Real answer: All the good white men died in kike mass dysgenics program, aka ww2.

>if you go somewhere like whole foods, oddly, you will be more likely to see short men with normal women,
Whole Foods are typically found in white suburbs, which women generally live in after they've had their "wild phase" and are ready to "settle down"
The short guys you see there are in all likelihood the beta cuck providers who married the leftovers lol.
>but if you go to some mega grocery store, short men are typically not seen with women
Because that's where normal, young people shop. Anywhere with attractive young girls you will not see them with short men. Only once they're 30 and ran through and marry some short dude for money and stability and start shopping at whole foods and shit. Many such cases.

>i think it is a refinement thing. cruder people look at things in an overly simplistic manner. thinks like okcupid or any other matching apps are just the bottom of the barrel in terms of people.
That's what most girls use nowadays though. More refined girls usually use shit like Bumble instead of, say, Tinder, but it's still a dating app.

>i think you are in a very negative mental state over things
Reality appears to be negative to me.

>imagine being a "tall handsome rich guy" and then she just breaks up with you when you're 36 or 40. then what?
1) Then you go get some more pussy?
2) Divorce is way less likely to happen if your wife is sexually and physically attracted to you
3) At least you had your youth to go out slaying pussy and live it up too

>have you seen most women? vast majority are unattractive
Women are in general more attractive than men. I see more hot girls than I see handsome guys (no homo). Girls talk about this all the time. For most women they just need to be not fat and they can be hot, for men they have a list of requirements to meet.

Nothing you said was worthwhile. Are you a girl? Usually they only write posts as stupid as this.