Which of the 2 is in crisis mode?

real honest answers only

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I think europe will be fine desu, their winters are so mild

EU is finished. Economy will collapse after next winter.

This, it is like 0C in February.
Don't you think you are overreacting a little bit?
Industry will take a hit, but nothing catastrophic.

With or without American help?

both, russia is much better prepared for it thou.

The problem is that we dont know what the winter will be like. Even if its mild, the industry needs russian gas too. Shit is either very fucked or very very fucked.

Without American help those fags will melt.

Both.
Our economy is collapsing and uessr forces people to economy hot water and electricity.

No. There's already many smaller companies in Germany that have gone bankrupt because after two years of fulltime fuckfest the energy price hike now gave them the rest.
Big industry will follow after the winter when energy gets unaffordable and allocated to private households.

Exactly my point.
Plus, it's a question of supply chains: what's Europe's and America's standalone capacity for making, for example, computer chips and other highly sophisticated components needed in smart weapons?

As i can see it, big cats will just scoop everything small biz lost and then keep going.
Similar to what happened in USA with covid.

China will give you gibs, while the US will NEVER give the EU gibs, all they know is how to take. Doesn't matter though, the EU must collapse. Brussels unelected bureaucrats are degenerates.

Both are in crisis.

Russia wouldn't use energy as a weapon if their military was doing good enough, they probably think there is some kind of a risk of them losing the war because of the western supplies. Their industry will probably be in a tough situation later too because of western companies pulling out of the country and shortage of components, apparently even some their military industry relies on western parts.

But it will be just as devastating for the EU. It's likely that Russia will cut more and more of its gas sales because that's the most hurtful thing they can do to countries who are backing Ukraine. There will be a recession and people will lose their jobs when factories will have to shut down or limit production. Now they are also now warning about electricity blackouts for consumers.

Not unless they receive massive bailouts but then there's no money left for niggers and leeches which the green commie gubmint cannot justify.
Also remember Germany holds massive debt of southern yuro states that can default at any given time.
This shithole is fucked beyond repair.

you absolute donkey brained liar. it's like you forgot about America's Marshall Plan taht literally rebuilt europe. they have money to spend and they will spend it. they literally give israel hundreds of billions of dollars and israel doesn't even need 1 cent from the US

My assesment so far ...

EU:
Adjusting to the new situation "at the minimal cost to civilian life and economy"-mode.

Russia:
What ever the fuck the oligarchs are doing to hide their assets in secret offshore pleaces while simultanously screwing over the dipshit russian poulation even more.

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Won't work, these industries still need gas, doesn't matter who own them. They won't be profitable with LNG, so they'll go bankrupt and no one will buy them. On the good side, perhaps germans will finally understand to not suicide on Russia.

idk mate
this is the second time already

You think Russia would have any chance against the EU? LMAO! Dumb fucking nigger

Your speculations are inane. They don't use energy as a weapon, the EU put the sanctions. And if they were to retaliate now (so far it's just speculation) it's not because they're at risk of losing the war, it's because EVERY WESTERN WEAPON SHIPMENT MEANS MORE RUSSIANS DIE. Use your brain, you think they don't care about more of their people dying?

USA has pretty steadfast capacity and availability of vital resources for making key components. But Europe on other hand is extremely saturated and have damaged themselves with looney service centric policies.

both, but EU will fall from a higher height. some portion of russians will probably not even notice the sanctions because they live without toilets and running water anyway

They have already given Ukraine lots of gibs like weapon systems and direct economic aid, I don't think China has given Russia anything.
Maybe Americans expect some of that to be paid back later but it will be impossible if Ukraine is allowed to lose.

Russia will solve it like in IIWW.
They simple wait till winter