TRAD WIFE

You say you want a trad wife, but you cant offer her anything of value. All you do is drink monsters and play vidya, why the FUCK would a trad wife EVER be with you?

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you left out the real deal-breaker.. SWC

I want 3 wives

cuz I'm a chad and I beat people up

Come to Joseph

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Whenever I talk to a woman I make sure to jack off beforehand so as to not have their succubus powers suck the lifeforce out of me. If you don't want to be taken advantage of by these witches I suggest you do the same

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If I marry a virgin, conservative woman and she rims my assholes; does she still qualify for a trad wife crown?

>if you aren’t rich by 25 you don’t deserve to procreate
Is that really how society should be?

This man dropping truth bombs on pol

I can't even afford a master energy drink, what would I do with a woman who needs something out of me?

>don't drink monster
>don't play video games
So I qualify for a tradwife then? Cool!

You shit outdoors, maybe this is your trad version of tp?

>You say you want a trad wife
No I don't. I don't want a wife at all. The biggest pill I ever had forcibly given to me was by my best friend's wife and seeing how she acts. She'd basically be naked out at bars/clubs and constantly disappear and return to us playing cards, pool, and just hanging out to inform us how many guys have hit on her or danced with her. This is all women, they get their value and validation from men. I couldn't imagine myself living with a constant project who needs daily to be seen to feel good.

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start with one.

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Real tradwives never had a choice and were subject to the beatings of their poor alcoholic husbands who would blow their earnings at the local casino after a weekend bender. Modern "tradwives" are a meme due to the fact they have court protection, true tradwives were always property regardless of their husband's income.

There has been an upswing of men in the manosphere portraying marriage as some sort of mitigable risk that is perfectly okay to sign into as long as a man does A, B, C or a combination of the three. Were you to speak to the average man today about women and marriage, he would most likely promote marriage as a good thing men should opt into, just as long as a man “knows what to look for”, or “picks the right woman” or some other nonsense.

I watched the Kino Casino for the first time, last night; the segment on Nick Fuentes; while I do agree with both PPP’s and Andy Warsky’s take on Nick being a closet homosexual, their entire outlook and perspective on marriage and the male-female dynamic is terribly rudimentary, nonobjective and extremely gynocentric, to say the least. First of all, MGTOW philosophy is for Alpha males—men who have dealt with women all their lives and didn’t have to make an effort to attract them as the average man has to. It is for men like myself and not the common, bitter beta male, simping faggots that the philosophy unfortunately attracts. It is not for the men who destroy and sullen the philosophy with their angry beta-maxing and stupidity. MGTOW philosophy CAN BE useful to these freaks, but they are just too fucking stupid to put it to any real use. They are too hung up on edgy and the shock value, instead of understanding themselves and comprehending why women affect them so much.

With that being said, look at PPP. He has to sing for his supper, so his takes on men and women will always be that of a simp. The same goes for Warsky, the loudmouth ectomorph feigning masculinity. E-Celebs are retards who, like women, will gift and larp to make a buck. They are pathetic, but unfortunately, influential.

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its called biology, why would women be with a undermensch?

its not da jooz, its nature, there are alot of worthless men.

best you can do is get fit and rich and hope you can enter top 10% realm

Nick Fuentes is indeed a stupid child. He is definitely mildly retarded and much of what he says is retarded Zoomer nonsense born out of arrested development and being socially awkward. However, I can still understand where he is coming from regarding women, even though much of what he says is contradictory and totally fucking retarded. For instance, he says, “having sex with women is gay”. What?!? What a fucking retard.

The problem with Nick is he is a virgin and no, I do not mean the only way he can know anything, especially about women, is through having had access to a woman’s vagina. I mean it in the way a former Christian who is now an Atheist has the best stories to tell about his deconversion. A conservative who was once a liberal; a Socialist turned Anarcho Capitalist. Sure, it is cool you do not have to put your hand in fire to know it’ll burn you, but it is so much better coming from a person who has walked through the flames and survived to tell the story. Still, this isn’t saying that a man’s only reason for looking at women the way Nick and I do is solely because of some emotional scarring or psychological impairment. Rather, Nick’s takes on women would be a lot more palpable if he actually had to beat women off him daily, which I am sure is the case now that he is famous, which is why I am almost certain he is gay. A cringe, retarded faggot.

Aside from the fact that he was caught watching tranny-porn and engaging in some seriously immature and questionable behavior and activities, even myself, a person who avidly speaks out about women the way I do, is indeed still attracted to women. Women are incredibly beautiful and not even I can renounce my sexual attraction to them.

Controlling it is another thing, which I have indeed mastered, but I cannot renounce it the way NF does. “Having sex with women is gay”??? Yeah, that’s a faggot!

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Something isn’t right with that kid. He is a real life trope and glownigger meme of, “MGTOW promotes homosexuality”, which it DOES NOT! Nick is evidence that MGTOW philosophy is an Alpha Male philosophy and vocation. Still, I can understand where he is coming from with women in certain and specific things, but he is too suspect. Be that the case, the Kino Casino is still dead wrong about marriage.

That men will actually defend western marriage as it is today, is truly alarming! Men regurgitating this disingenuous, poisonous flatulence the gynotopia has brainwashed them into, today, that they pass off as “advice”, typifies a deep-seated need to uphold a system and institution that is inherently gynocentric. The institution of marriage is itself, in its present form, a gynocracy that benefits women, foremost and prioritizes the interests and welfare of women above all other things. It is, by definition, welfare.

The only positive thing that can be pointed out about men entering these legally binding contracts of welfare is that they are doing so voluntarily. At least for the time being. In contrast to the feminist female welfare imperatives, the role men take on in a marriage—a welfare dispenser—is a symbiotic relationship. A relationship of organically mediated cooperation that most men will refer to as traditionalism, but it just so happens that it carries with it, the female’s obsession with extending the welfare net via government force and interventionism, long past the realms of wedlock, going into and continuing long after divorce.

This highlights the ability of gynocentrism to permeate the substrate of an entire culture and manifest itself in various spheres of human endeavor. It attempts to appear as an effective self-propelling process; deriving its energy and inertia from what propels it; the motion of its propulsion in opposition to what is actually powering it.

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Take a primitive tribesman from anywhere in the world; one that has never seen an airplane, and were you to ask him what makes this device taxi across a runway or what keeps it suspended in the air; having absolutely no knowledge of the internal combustion that powers the plane, nor of the controlled explosions of hydrocarbons occurring in the engine, he would of course, point to the propeller and say the propeller moves the plane. Female nature is the propeller and traditionalism, the aileron of the plane. They facilitate movement of the plane by making flight more facile, but the engine powers the whole process. Steam and water do not provide nuclear power. Nuclear fission does. Gynocentrism is the engine. Let that sink in, then close the door.

Once you’ve comprehended this, the next question to ask is, what is the fuel supply? What does this engine run on? Well, the answer is quite simple—it runs on us. Men and women are the fuel and we are as unconscious of this as burning propane is to its own consumption. You see we enforce gynocentrism automatically. Gynocentrism is a completely organic process that is infused within the bio-psycho-sexual makeup of both the human male and female. It is not unjust laws, but is as inveterate and default as shutting off your mind after a long day of office drudgery, and heading straight home, forgetting that you had to go to the DMV. We are not conscious of it. That is what gynocentrism is and it is not some monolithic descendent of gynocentrism that we have identified as “Feminism”, but a “defaultive” unconscious human behavior. This is the instinctive programming of most men and women out there. Especially men like PPP and Warsky who dole out terrible, advice to men about women and marriage. These guys never make it to the DMV!

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no one is reading this shit

Men are still promoting marriage after so much of recent history demonstrates the entire vocation to be totally against them; men rarely benefit from it, if at all, nor do they stand a chance at being successful at it. Gynocentrism, as discussed earlier, is at the core of the concept of marriage and traditionalism, for it is an unconscious drive of both men and women.

Gynocentrism is the precursor for inherent female behavior, the legal oppression that female nature relies on and have leveraged against men, and what the oppressive traditional male gender role is derived from—male disposability. Gynocentrism—that which is inherent to both men and women—is organic processes being mitigated and canceled out only by other organic processes.

Even at first glance, what appears to be a screaming testament of man fighting against nature—fighting against what is organic—similar to a water dam holding back millions of gallons of water from going where it naturally wants to go. It only does so, because the engineers who built it spent years designing and implementing what can only be defined as a careful exploitation of an organic process, specifically the laws of physics. Traditionalism (patriarchy), despite its recent technologically induced devolution, only succeeded for so long, because it directed the energies of the gynocentric engine propelling human behavior in a certain direction. That direction was the opening up of the sexual and reproductive commodity inherent to women, to a larger pool of men previously unsuitable for mating privileges and reproduction. Unsuitable at least according to women. We have a sprawling, technologically advanced, modern civilization that is relatively and comparatively superlative and safe as a testimony to this accomplishment.

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Even still, this clear and obvious observation begs the question, or, rather crystallizes the realization that at one point in history, men, all those millenia ago, had to look at the then male-female dynamics preceding traditionalism. They took a look at what was unfolding in front of them and said to themselves, “this may be the way nature intended it—a violent orgy of men killing each other and women sitting back prostrate, watching and waiting, then selecting sexually the winners from the entire bloody ordeal—but, what is natural isn’t always good, or ideal.” They then set out to create a system by which organic forces—the male reproductive drive and the female need to consume male resources—were harnessed in such a way to combat another organic force—the reproductive default that revolves around a process of a perpetual rutting season by the human male, which is the preferred hypergamous, unconscious breeding set up that arises when women have complete control over reproduction.

(If you need proof of this, simply look at any modern ghetto where fatherlessness is rampant and tell me what you see. You will see an entropic, violent male vs. male competition for women. That, my readers, is the type of reproductive arrangement that women overwhelmingly prefer, which is exactly why men should seek as much control over reproduction as they possibly can. This, of course, without depriving women of any fundamental human rights. This includes inventing new means of human reproduction, which I opine, is part of the destiny of any sentient, intelligent being. For if the purpose of all organisms is to reproduce, it is a certainty that intelligent organisms will devise as many means of reproduction as their intellect allows them.

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Can you give men access to subsidized surrogacy already so that they have less reasons to bother you?

...So, it should be noted that my opposition to marriage and traditionalism isn’t derived from an agenda to disrupt efficient human reproductive behavior, but out of a desire to point out the fact that this current iteration of exploitation of the gynocentric engine that drives society has lost its efficacy.)

Men began doing the selecting and choosing of women. Large breasts and a specific hip to waist ratio was preferred, she had to be young, fertile and chaste, demure and submissive and just about everything women are not by nature. However, as is the case with women, anything popular they quickly adhere to, just as long as they believe they stand to ultimately benefit from it all, which they did, for the most part.

For this, traditionalism should be lauded as the first major male-inspired innovation toward the human species’ method of reproduction. It should be lauded as a milestone of male ingenuity and invention that started out as an attempt to curb and harness gynocentrism. It was the Model T of its kind that stands as a herald of things to come, but can no longer compete with the 12 cylinder Lamborghini engine block that men are tasked with inventing and assembling, now that traditionalism can no longer maintain its checks on female sexual power. There are leaks in the engine of traditionalism and it has lost critical amounts of efficiency. The cause of the leaks derive from traditionalism’s dependency on the behavior of women, specifically, the shaming of female sexuality and the implementation of taboos on female sexuality in order to keep their sexuality at bay.

MGTOW innovation does away with this approach altogether and seeks to change male minds, only. Persuading men in a way that maximizes their effect—educating them about female nature as well as their own biological predilections—while simultaneously minimizing their “energy debt”—keep your monies in your pockets and reject this “Leave It To Beaver” traditionalist provider bullshit.

Except the upper ten percent aren't passing on there genes either retard. Every first world western country is at below replacement birthrates while the third world hordes filled with the 65IQ worthless untermensch are breeding unchecked to rape you and your oh so precious 10%.

That’s right, women. MGTOW, as antagonistic as you view us to be, for all your claims of misogyny, we place ZERO (count them), ZERO constraints on your sexuality, whatsoever. None. You can be a virgin, or you can be what comes naturally to you—a promiscuous whore. You are now dealing with a new breed of man that isn’t some sexually repressed little boy, wetting himself every time we picture some woman we are involved with having sex with another man. We truly take you off the pedestal. We will tell you to do as you wish, but prepare for a war of siege and attrition if you dare try to control us or steal our wealth and vitality in any way. We are tired of carrying you, whether the load is hoisted onto our backs through outdated cultural norms, or forced onto us via the halls of congress. Now you are free to do as you please and the only thing MGTOW is going to attempt to force on you are the natural consequences of your actions that everyone else has shielded you from. If it turns out as I suspect it will, that once the forces of cause and effect are forced onto you; if it turns out that you’ll be begging for your sexual taboos and for your supposedly demeaning roles as “helpmeets” back, then society will see for once, in an undeniable fashion, just who has been oppressing whom.

The men who defend the criminal contract of marriage, pose a direct threat to male freedom and sovereignty, because they frame marriage—a contract that can legally enslave any man—as some acceptable risk to be encouraged, as though some benefit can be garnered that could possibly balance out a man’s potential legal enslavement upon divorce. Isn’t it strange that the budgetary political wing of the most powerful country in the western world is named after a sex act? Congress. Why is it that the prefix “matri” (mother or maternity), along with the suffix “mony” (status), is combined to form the very definition of the word “marriage”?

One can pretty up this exploitative, criminal contract of misandry all he wants, but language; always in the syntax the unconscious truth makes itself apparent. The word “matrimony”, indeed, translates to “mother status”. Notice, men, you are not even mentioned and that isn’t by accident, neither is it on purpose. It just so happens to be inherent to us as human beings that it is embedded within our language.

Do not be led back onto the plantation.

Married user with a “trad” wife here. They start to feel isolated, trapped, and anxious. They lash out. Their world gets very small so they end up yelling at you because you left a spoon out on the counter. Eventually they stop all intimacy because they feel like a prisoner in the house and aren’t getting sufficient adult conversation and stimulation while you’re at work all day and they’re just changing diapers, making meals, doing laundry, and cleaning toilets.

So, you're a nobody. Good to know. Get that fixed.

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