What are some Christian arguments for the existence of God apart from the Bible?
What are some Christian arguments for the existence of God apart from the Bible?
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Enough decent people have believed it over a long enough period of time that there must be something to it.
There aren't any. Neither is there any real evidence to the contrary.
>aside from scripture being evidently incorrect and having been tampered with
Not like God himself wrote the book. Jesus didn't see the need to write shit down either. His plans were pretty short term.
>kingdom of God in two more weeks
>god
which one? if you mean yahweh specifically, then none
humans sacrifices have been practiced for over 10,000 years tbqh so not a great argument
numbers don't lie
>Nothing begins to exist without a cause
>The universe began to exist
>Therefore, the universe has a cause
This cause must contain any part of the universe. It must be supremely powerful (more powerful than the universe) eternal (as it existed before time) and intentional,as the universe is highly ordered. In a word: God.
Something doesn't come from Nothing
The elites sacrifice babies and are autistic about eclipses and constellations and shit
he said
>decent people
you consider human sacrificers decent?
The Holy Quran.
there are proofs of God everywhere, you just don't know where/how to look
pastor shawn can explain
>What are some Christian arguments for the existence of God apart from the Bible?
None. Religion is faith. Faith is just circular reasoning. Also, there were literally hundreds of historians in the time of "Jesus Christ" on not a single one of them mentions him or any of his actions.
I know more as well.
>The universe contains a substantial amount of order
>Any object coming close to a similar level of order was intelligently designed
>Therefore, the universe was intelligently designed.
Demons and hauntings. That’s a big one that people neglect but once you go through it with other people experiencing the same thing it changes how you view reality. Especially when you invoke Jesus and it’s the only things that works. Straight up. If you’re unsure, go stay in a haunted house and you may be surprised
Life, even in its basic form, is entirely too complicated to exist from chance
>and intentional, as the universe is highly ordered
1. What a shit inference.
2. You've proven there's a primal cause IF the universe isn't infinite in time.
3. You also haven't proved that primal cause is the Christian God.
The only One in the universe who can say without doubt "I AM" is not diminished by your unbelief.
As a matter of fact He is not even angry with you.
He does, however, love you too much to abandon you to your unbelief.
Like a shepherd looking for a lost sheep He will find you.
He will destroy all that keeps you from Him.
He will tenderly put you around His neck and bring you home where you belong.
Your only regret will be that you didn't believe sooner.
Ooze randomly mutating in to an organism as complex as an animal is just as retarded as an omnipotent being creating everything.
Not really an argument, but whatever.
Read Plato, Christians hijacked the bro and then just plastered Jewish myths on it.
There are many religions. But only Christdom conquered the world
well I don't think god cares about whatever is happening on earth or is benevolent.
but you'd need to be retarded to think our intricately designed prison planet is an accident
Judaism is older than Plato fag
>proof: trust me bro
You’re a faggot
>source: the way you talk
>If the universe isn't infinite
It's not and any serious scientist would tell you this. There is a finite amount of kinetic and potential energy in the universe. We know this because it is being exchanged into heat energy and space. This is how the universe expands. The second law of thermodynamics states that the sum total of entropy (disorder) in the universe can only increase in any given process (there is a large mathematical proof proving this true) This holds true for the expansion as well, so that means there is a quantity of entropy in the universe, which is always increasing. Eventually the quantity of usable energy will reach zero. This is often referred to as the "heat death of the universe" It is a mathematical inevitability.
Because we know the energy in the universe will run out, we know it had to begin running out at some point. If the universe infinitely existed, this would not be the case. Infinity has to expand in both directions. If the universe has an end, and we know it does, it's not infinite.
>you haven't proved the Christian God
I never set out to. How do you expect me to argue for the Christian God over all other forms of religion if I can't use the Bible. the sole document which discusses the Christian God?
He has done so for me.
My proof is my testimony.
That He will do the same for you does not rest at all on whether you believe me.
Make no mistake user.
He is God and He is coming for you.
>He is coming for you.
Doubt I am hot enough to make him cum.
Standard model big bang theory
So?
OP's question was asking Christian's reasoning for God without the bible. That's Plato.
Said the Jew posting under a meme flag
inanimate matter can manifest sapience spontaneously in some formless chaos/void which is implied to be lacking of sentience, but will always be.
To the self, in death all things cease, but the world lays long as a haven for existence, as beings are plucked from silence and flicked back into it.
Why is behavior and life so "tolerable" for suffering to perpetuate itself?
There's no resolution either, humans are fucked with or without a god. Our spite as individuals translates to spite in spiritual as well. What justice could be had for the world and all that have ever lived?
The only argument I can make for the Christian God without the Bible is a decent one, but not very convincing unless you want to believe. It is as follows:
>I have experienced God.
>I can trust my experiences
>Therefore, God exists.
I know that the physical laws which govern the universe are real only by the fact that they have proven to be constant in all observation. Therefore, is it not just as sound to say that God is real because I have observed it to be true. i.e. I have experienced God.
Try having some who isn’t a retard type something that makes sense.
Even your crude words do not disturb Him.
Trust me He has seen worse.
As for how hot you are:
(You) are fearfully and wonderfully made
and He will not leave something so precious to the dog's that fill your mind.
Low iq take bud.
The fact that metaphysical forms are the "primary" material is just the nature of Logos. What philosophers of that time tried to figure out (knowledge is just info from your past lives maaan as Plato said) is fully manifested and COHERENTLY expressed in Orthodox Christianity.
Basically another midwit thread about shit you don't understand.
>Jay Dyer
>Church of the eternal logos
>Brother Augustine
>Primal Edge Health
All on yt, dozens of hours of lectures.