What the fuck is Putin's plan in Ukraine...

What the fuck is Putin's plan in Ukraine? It seems like any way this could end it's gonna end up with Russia being in a worse spot than before the war, in military, economic and diplomatic terms.

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Why do you draw such conclusions?

One dollar before the war 78 rubles
One dollar now 58 rubles

>Huge military losses
>Supply chain issues due to sanctions
>Sweden and Finland joining NATO
>Germany re-arming

Putin is working with NATO.
Both work for WEF.
The war is just a set up and smokescreen so they can implement Great Reset and kill off nationalist resisters on Ukrainian front.

he already got the west to spend money hoping slavs would kill slavs and not just bolstering their own militaries. france and others said not long ago they would expand their militaries

thats money they didnt spend on their own weapons and defense. every dollar counts and with the modern global economy its so easy to launder money. hatis version of wallstreet their market was a joke with tons of laundering officially having occurred it wasnt real a just money flowing through making a longer paper trail. it was bigger than the dow total dollars in it

ukraine was just a feint, they secured alliance with myanmar while westoids were busy with ukraine, 7d chess

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That sounds completely retarded

First of all it is about closing off any defensive weak positions, for Russia to Defend in has to expand. Then total detachment and pivoting from the Western world. Which ironically will make the West suffer more. A self Sufficient Nation, that is rich in commodities and supplies the world with them, is going to be in need. Consoomer Economies are in for a world of hurt.

>muh exchange rate
yes, the rubble doing better than the Euro means that the quality of life in russia is better too than in the EU. Neck yourself russhit

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>worse spot than before the war
worse/better is a relative term. Worse spot compared to whom?
Both EU and US are going into the shitbin in the context of this war.
Russia is securing its long-term security interests, this war isn't about short-term gibs like stealing oil or building reputation.

To claim that Russia will end up worse after this war, is to pretend as if the rest of the west will magically succeed at maintaining their pre-war status quo - which they already aren't.

Long-term prognosis:
1. Russia will become more financially and economically independent from the west
2. Russia will secure its western borders, after having had them irresponsibly exposed since the collapse of the USSR
3. The USD and EUR are damaged
4. The political elites in EU are forced to come to their senses and cut their ideological BS

Huge military gains. You can't name a single country that has captured clay in the last 50 years
What you write is trolling with stupidity
Just making yourself look like an idiot
Russia gets land, Russia gets seas, Russia gets people, you get a cage on your dick.

This whole Ukraine shit is slowly changing my attitude towards /pol. Before I used to think most people here were reasonable, hard to brainwash. But now with constant posts like this I understand how retarded most of the people here are. The based takes I saw here were probably just contrarians reacting to the mainstream agenda. It wasn't literally "based" on anything. Many people here just pick some mainstream shit and blindly do the opposite if that. If you were living in a traditional and conservative society you would be suckling black cocks and inventing pronouns. Stop with this Dugin-level of delusions. Putin is not your friend and not "savior from globalhomo"

Yeah, huge gains. It's not middle ages, when the strength of the military depends on crops and "clay". Go fuck yourself. What is happening right now is one of the worst scenarios for our country and there are less and less chances to ever dig our way out of this hole. Only decades after Putin's pathetic death it will be recognized as one of the most embarrassing periods of our history.

Bankrupt the west.

Russians are sooooo fucking retarded when it comes to basic economics.

Your rubles are toxic. Nobody wants them. Nobody is buying them unless they have to. All the rubles are leaving the West and flowing back into Russia where they belong. Then you can set the price to $1 million each if you like.

Second. Let's say last month you sell me your barrel of oil for $100 and that equals 78 rubles. Great, here's your 78 rubles.

Today you sell me your barrel of oil for $100 and that equals 58 rubles. Great, here's your 58 rubles. You really turned a profit there didn't you? You're quite the entrepreneur!

Just saved 20 rubles.... You're going to get less oil in the barrel. You get 58 rubles worth of oil instead of 78 rubles worth of oil.

whats the point of any of that when you can't buy anything to upgrade your industry

>You're going to get less oil in the barrel.
I know right? Russians are famous all over the world for this kind of business treachery. But ceteris paribus -all things equal, the Russian walks away with 20 fewer rubles for the same barrel of oil.

> You get 58 rubles worth of oil instead of 78 rubles worth of oil.
What? You will fail high school economics at that rate. I'm paying the market rate for Russian sour midgrade crude, $100. The Russian guy walks away with 20 fewer rubles in his pocket. If he thinks that's his get-rich-quick scheme, then I need to buy all his oil right now before he figures it out.

The absolute state of postmodern rednecks (Liberals/Leftists), how are you people this much unaware of events taking place outside of your oligarchy owned media?

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So take all your rubles and buy dollars.
What's that you say, Putin won't let you?
And even if he did all the western goods you want to buy are sanctioned?
Like oil drilling machinery and spare aircraft parts?
80% of the world's commercial air crashes already happen in Russia because they lie about performing maintenance. Can you just imagine adding poorly machined replacement parts because they don't understand the engineering necessary? The first 100,000 Russians will be lost in Ukraine butchering civilians, but the next 100,000 Russians lost will be from airline fatalities.

> And even if he did all the western goods you want to buy are sanctioned?
> what are market middle hands

This is the reason why you have less when 100$ on your account mate. And the sole reason why it is going to stay this way for the rest of your life.