Ok, so the whole idea of combating climate change and sustainability is about controlling our lives?

Move to Deleware. It's about the same size as your country with half the population density.

Sorry. I just meant is has about half the population density. You can drive a big pickup truck there.

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What's sad is that climate change is actually real
But they are gonna abuse the fuck out of it to control us and never even solve the problem

I doubt that our current models can accurately predict global weather patterns, much less consistent change in those patterns. Assuming they can though, if it was such a pressing crisis, why is there no push to engage with the world's biggest polluters (China, India, and Africa). Why the focus on shit like carbon taxes and green energy only in the West? It doesn't make sense man. If there was an actual crisis, the people in charge are too incompetent to handle it. I am inclined to believe there isn't a crisis - just an opportunity for rich people to get richer at the expense of the conditioned masses.

the controlling of your life isn't that important. it is more about restricting your access to resources as they become more and more scarce. control comes about as a secondary benefit to their continued survival and decadent life style. giving that up is something they are unwilling to do and will keep it even if it means killing off 90% of the worlds population.

They need to pretend there are these Hollywood Blockbuster type emergencies require international co-operation and by co-operation they mean absolute obedience to a ruler.

>So basically they want to create food / energy shortages artificially in the name of sustainability so they can profit from it right?

not exactly, they want utter and complete control of the entire human race, down to the most minute detail. The fact that they'll "profit" off of it is a beneficial secondary effect for them.

If it was purely about money, they'd just continue the system as it is. The economy was great in 2019, and even in 2020 companies made record profits.

>What's sad is that climate change is actually real

define "climate change". The climate is always changing. There has never been a static climate in the history of the earth. The question is whether current climactic changes are the result of human activity. I don't think so. Human activity with pollution can affect local areas (i.e. a shitton of cars in LA will produce smog which is bad). But the idea that human activity is causing temps to rise globally? There's not much evidence to support it. Especially when you consider temps have risen and fallen in extreme measure throughout history long before industrialization. Ice core data proves this.

>it is more about restricting your access to resources as they become more and more scarce

the resources are not becoming scarce though. We have tons of oil still and they keep finding more of it. The amount of food available is a function of how much is farmed.

I'm not even against population control, especially in Africa, but it's clear that the goal of elites is to reduce european populations, manage the rest, and institute the kalergi plan for a "Eurasian-Negroid" race of the future that will be more easily controllable for elites.

>it is more about restricting your access to resources as they become more and more scarce
it is only true about the non-renewable resources such as crude oil, but what about the cows? why do they want to reduce the number of cows? why do they want us to eat bug babsed food? i think they just want to create hunger issues artificially by reducing the number of cows in the name of sustainability

Carbon/ greenhouse gas emission is legit. There's no doubt that we're poisoning the oceans. We need to understand just what effect that has on the environment and our place in it. Will emissions raise sea levels? Not according to any data I've seen. If humans disappeared tomorrow, would the oceans return to their pre-industrialization conditions? I don't know. No one is asking these questions. They should be asking these questions.

clean water is the big one
as populations explode and demand higher standards of living, they will need to provide more and more.

so that's why they want us to eat ze bugs since they argue farming bugs requires less water and space?
but water is kind of renewable. dirty water can be purified.
The population of majority of the world has already stopped growing except africa, we only have to solve the african problem

At this point, I'd take a permanent lockdown, but with a UBI. Leave me the fuck alone.
I'd rather live on the breadline as a hermit, than work an underpaid hellish service job in this piece of shit outsourced economy.

there wont be UBI.
you cant buy everything you want to in da future, you will own nothing and be happy.
There will be only food ration stamps, which only permits you to exchange for synth meat and bug based food such as bug protein power

no

its about saving the planet

because burying wind turbines and solar panels under ground and clearing vast amounts of land and trees is good for the environment, humans and animals.

>Carbon/ greenhouse gas emission is legit

in what way? sure, like I said regarding smog in LA, it can affect a local area. But the idea that our collective greenhouse gases are causing the entire earth to warm up? I don't buy it. Concomitant with this is that "scientists" say this will lead to a rise in sea levels and massive coastal flooding, yet this hasn't happened. Sea levels worldwide are pretty much the same as they were a century ago. Just look at photos of coastal areas that haven't had new construction since then (i.e. base of statue of liberty), the water line comes up to the same level it did back then, not higher.

>There's no doubt that we're poisoning the oceans
yeah pollution is bad, garbage patch in pacific is bad. Industrial agriculture runoff into rivers and oceans is bad, absolutely no doubt about that.

None of those inherently cause global warming, all of those issues can be fixed over time without restricting human freedom. As an example, look at how much the US improved from the EPA's creation until now. The reforms worked. Smog levels in L.A. and similar cities were drastically reduced without having to limit the number of cars on the road, just requiring manufacturers to add catalytic converters and taking the lead out of gasoline.

Environmental reforms can be implemented without restricting people and without destroying the economy. The fact that globohomo elites want to do everything rapidly and deprive people of their freedom and possessions proves that it's about control, not the environment

Climate change is only being used as a means of controlling people, much like the plandemic.
If they really cared about the environment you couldn't buy liquids in plastic bottles, use plastic straws and forks to begin with.
They would be banned worldwide.

And guess what, they aren't.