Realistically, what is the best path for Russia going forward?

>expensive language meaning nothing
I thought about that too. But leaving it out sounded weird.
>I think we fucked shit up for thirty years at least.
That's what I'm most interested in. There's a lot of anti Russia sentiment right now. But less than 10 years ago those same people loved Russia.

Sure, that's what I'd do if I were playing a grand strategy as the incorporeal force that drives Russia. Instead, we are run by a clique of kleptocrats who are not particularly interested in your lofty goals.

In order for a country's economy to develop, it needs to have institutions in place that provide the incentives for people to develop the economy. All our institutions are broken, and I see no driving force for building new ones.

Apologize and delete this, you dishonor the Russian flag, mr. Putin is disappoint

>Realistically, what is the best path for Russia going forward?
Nuclear strike on Lviv
Total oil / gas embargo on Europe

Negotiating with the west would be the worst possible outcome. Their loss condition if whoever follows Putin buys into western psy ops of "democracy" and "tolerance". As long as you can keep that degeneracy out you're good. Democracy is a perfect form of government for kikes, specifically designed for subversion and shadow rule.

That's just western propaganda, delete! Russia is strong, institution is reliable, mr. Putin is master strategist

Does the addition of a town rapist help improve GDP, Romania-bro?

The best path for Russia is to immediately withdraw all troops from Ukraine and give back Crimea and the Donbass

>regime change in the west
Realistically speaking not going to happen. Jokes aside, how’s it’s gonna change significantly enough to matter, military dictatorship? Absolute monarchy? I’m not being quirky here, it’s just not a viable path forward
>trying to return to status quo with the west
Not going to happen either: Russian society and trade routes has already undergone a significant change, wrestling it back to the old state just doesn’t net significant benefits to pursue that. So me thinks whatever comes next with relationship with the west - this right here is the starting point, both societal and economics wise.
>what do
Achieve preferential position for a ceasefire (duh) BUT declare it first, so the ensuing negotiations would look like: “See, we stopped firing at Ukrainians, why won’t they stop firing at us”. It’s a perception (innit all, eh?) problem at the end, so we’d have to feel a with that.

and then go and take taiwan instead just to piss china off

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I think you misread OP post, the question was what's best for Russia not for US.

*European suicidal isolationism.

Fixed it for you.

KEK

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>(...) negotiate with the west and come up with some diplomatic solution (...)
How can they diplomatically convince the "West" to kill themselves and all their handlers with them?

Break apart, form different nations of varying development levels, invest in resource extraction as that's the only thing they're good at.

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>“See, we stopped firing at Ukrainians, why won’t they stop firing at us”.

Nobody gives a fuck about optics regardless of whether they support you or hate you.
I'd assume the only reason to do so would be to try and appeal to the "Chinese masters of peace and prosperity" but doing this means you're just asking for more random civilians to die and shit on the Russian presidency wanting them to explain what the fuck are they even doing.

so this really is a civil war and not an invasion. good to know my dear Borderlander.

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>The sanctions are a delayed poison..
Two more weeks, eh?
>and also Russia being forced to have China as it's only ally of any power will in time destroy Russia
We’re doing it willingly. If we’re like all honest and shit itt, China package doesn’t come with constant human rights abuses whining and general paternalistic bilateral relationships so…

That is what’s best for Russia. They have no hope of winning this conflict. Even in occupied areas like Kherson there is heavy guerrilla warfare and resistance activity reaching Chechen War levels. Ukraine is significantly larger than Chechnya. And Russian diplomacy is worthless if their promises can’t be trusted. No credibility. Russia can only win by cutting losses and withdrawing from Ukraine immediately. Only by showing good intent and goodwill can Russia bring Ukraine to the negotiating table. Otherwise the there won’t be a future for Russia if all the young men die on the battlefield

The best path for Russia is for Putin to personally come to your house alone and strangle you with his bare hands.

>invest in resource extraction as that's the only thing they're good at
the same could be said about you to

It’s not about optics, my man, but rather claiming to be the first one who stopped shooting. A formality, necessary nonetheless, having the initiative at war does that.

>They have no hope of winning this conflict.
They have. It's called having more people to spare. The rest is just a matter of time.

>And Russian diplomacy is worthless if their promises can’t be trusted. No credibility.
Speak for yourself, Judaic faggot.

They'd be doing diplomacy a favor if they tore Zelensky apart with a Kinzhal or two.

>how’s it’s gonna change significantly enough to matter, military dictatorship? Absolute monarchy?
It doesn't need to be that significant. Trump was willing to work with Russia. Even Obama was willing to come to the table. There's clearly a much stronger opposition to Russia that existed with the current administration prior to Ukraine. Opposition fueled by political rhetoric.
>wrestling it back to the old state just doesn’t net significant benefits to pursue that
Other than the major portion of the world economy? If Russian oligarchs like money, why would they limit themselves to trading with China? The Chinese are the fucking worst and will use the fact nobody wants to trade with Russia to their advantage.

turn off your VPN. You’re not fooling anyone

>A formality, necessary nonetheless, having the initiative at war does that.
Well, you kind of put yourself in this position.
Though:
>If we’re like all honest and shit itt, China package doesn’t come with constant human rights abuses whining and general paternalistic bilateral relationships so…
is more than enough to convince me given what I was thinking of China.

i can see why only snarky liberals support OOkraine

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Who the fuck am I even trying to fool, you spastic nigger? Retards like you wouldn't get it anyway and everyone else will just correct me for any mistakes.

>By replying to my posts from now on, you willingly denounce the Talmud of your own volition and agree that the Zionist state of Israel must cease existing.

Both are weak, as is Russia in general. Russia will not exist in 5 years.

Lol are you ok, bratan? Maybe you need to read some books, you know?

start work on joining the european union and nato
elect the right politicians
diversify the economy
provide basic education
fight corruption, the true enemy of russia

"Ohhh look! Sergei! Me such hacker! Me use VPN!"

What i mean is this part
>west will get tired of sending them shit
No, that's their legal loophole to keep money printing and steal funds. Do you think all the money goes to ukies? If they get a tenth of that money it can already be considered a miracle

>Achieve preferential position for a ceasefire
You're in control of Donbass and in firm control of Crimea. Realistically speaking, it won't get any better for you than that. You could start another attempt at Kiev and go for an occupation of the whole of eastern Ukraine up to the Dnieper, but what are your chances for a success?

>cultural isolationism
What are you talking about. You've never taken any part of our culture but only force your own western culture through media. Fuck off kike, you're not in charge anymore.

>start work on joining the european union and nato
Why'd you join something that was going to kill itself in the future?

>elect the right politicians
Fuck democracy.

>diversify the economy
It's good enough as it is. I don't see Russia wanting to trade with countries that use Euro / Dollars / other worthless currencies. They're just going to walk straight under China's wing.

>provide basic education
"Education" is too broad of a term, I would like to see a system somewhere where the "potent" individuals who see through both good and evil get an environment to educate themselves however they wish and get a say in how the policies inside a country are established.

100%.