The message is very clear if you’re a patriotic young American: Stay clear of the military

It's because leadership is at best toxic. Couple that with the decades long warnings of how shit the VA is. Hell BAH can't even help you rent a shitty apartment anymore. All the barracks are infested shitholes. And that's the minimum I know from the Army. Heard navy is even worse, with sailors made homeless. It isn't surprising at all, everyone knew that the post 9-11 boom has been gone for a long time now. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been lower

wait, RT, i mean Tucker told me it was because of wokeness and CRT

>meaningless drivel
Cope

Do you sleep with the light on to ward of all the vatniggers that gangstalk you online user?

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>LtCol steps out of rank and file to blast his command
This is a no-no, regardless of who you are.
>quote in document says only 23% can serve without a waiver
What this has to do with being a "young patriot" I still do not understand.
>an opinion piece
Into the trash it goes

FYI, Impeding recruitment pipelines was one of the main goals of the russian-backed anti-vax conspiracy movements of 2020-2021

Why the fuck would I volunteer to fight for the globalist lizards.
I am already going to die in my 30's
I don't need to also have ptsd while doing it.

I mean that demented old retard is selling our strategic oil reserves to Europe while we're having record prices but whatever dude at least he's owning Putin by crashing the US economy

I'm glad that the left finally has their own version of "blame everything on the Jews"

>the russian-backed anti-vax conspiracy movements of 2020-2021
I love how /k/ has embraced all the lefty anti-Russian conspiracy theories because of the war hysteria that's taken over here

What does that have to do with military recruitment?

Nobody's gonna sign on to fight for a government that's openly sabotaging their own economy

or maybe its because they are believable conspiracy theories, instead of "they are putting chips into the autism-inducing mind control vaccines!!"

>record-breaking profits for oil companies
>record high fuel prices
>oil price at same levels as 2012, but fuel costs are doubled
>BIDEN REEE

>believable conspiracy theories
kek
keep telling yourself that

It may not be the whole answer but it's actually a part of it whether it's convenient for you to acknowledge or not. The last study I personally saw showed that around 50-60% of able bodied males would flee the US if it were invaded by a foreign power citing their home isn't a country worth fighting for. You can infer from that how much more off-putting it would be for them to join the military to just end up fighting foreign wars. Its simply a culture shift in the wrong direction.

lol
lmao even
you people have lost it

>assisting allies is sabotaging the US's economy
How? This isn't a zero sum game.

imagine if he limited the profit margin on gas or something, they would instantly switch over to calling him a communist.

how is selling our strategic reserves while canceling more leases going to drive the prices down at the pump?
They're forcing us off of fossil fuels kicking and screaming consequences be damned, they're open about why they're doing all this

are "they" in this thread right now?

This. The theory is straightforward. No goofy aliens or suspension of Occam’s razor required.

1. Russian disinformation networks spread and amplify messages containing paranoia about vaccines
2. Economy in target country opens slower
3. Military in target country has lower morale and lower pool to recruit from

You can see the payoff is high and effort is low. There is literally zero reason to believe vatniks are not involved here.

I'd be gouging too if I was promised I would be run out of business in 10 years. Why the fuck would you invest in new refineries or exploring new areas for oil that will take 30 years to pay for themselves when you only have 10 left? So yes. REEEEE BIDEN

They as in the Democratic party and yeah unfortunately their supporters are all over /k/ now
Unthinkable even 6 years ago

Join a fighting force than wants you to be less white and less straight? Woke military is a joke.

Did the Vatniks force the Military to adopt a vaccine mandate?
I really don't get the logic here
People being skeptical about the clotshot must be from Russian propaganda?

t. retard who was psyopped by Russia

I'm considering joining my states national guard but not if they're going to make me get that faggot vax.
>hur when you join the give you a bunch of vaccines anyways
Yeah but those weren't rushed to the market in a fraction of the time it takes other vaccines to get approved and they don't clot your shit up.

Are these "vatniks" in the room with us right now?

>REEE

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That is idiotic. They don't join because there are better civilian opportunities and the military has gone globohomo.
The type of people that want to fight also are the ones who don't want the deathvax.

Russian psyops is forcing the officer corps to go through "Diversity and equity" training that demonizes whites?

The military along with schools have required vaccines since before anyone in this thread was born. This is only logical considering they are putting lots of people in shared spaces. That is not the issue.

>you MUST get a shot that gives you blood clots in order to join the military
WOW, WHY IS NO ONE JOINING THE MILITARY?!?!?!?!!?

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In what world wouldn't the military make the vaccination mandatory, considering all the other vaccinations they made mandatory? Why would they be okay with a disease fucking up combat readiness?

Any Forums

Any company is going to make you go through diversity training. Ask you who is spreading it in a derogatory light specifically to deter people from joining the military? People who may not have your best interests in mind.

Lmfao right

You missed your URL and accidentally posted that as a comment.

I bet the victims of the Tuskegee syphilis experiments held similar beliefs about medicine that you do.
>They're doctors, they're experts. They know what's best for us
>You think they're making us sick? Hogwash. They're educated. They wouldn't do such a thing.

>whatabout whatabout
Yeah

>more than half of the world population is vaccinated.
>retards still believe there is some evil plan to get them.

>>You think they're making us sick? Hogwash. They're educated. They wouldn't do such a thing.
The doctors didn't though. They just didn't treat them so that they could have a control group for other studies.

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Nobody has to tell me that this anti-white equity shit was bad, I just had to look at the shit they're being taught

>Worker shortage across American society as a whole after covid
>Military also experiences it
>Blame it all on wokeness!
Same with with people yelling get woke go broke about netflix and disney stock right now. Sure wokeness may be playing a part in things, but it's more a contributing factor than the sole or probably even main reason.

All of that being said the military hasn't done itself any favors by pitching it's recruitment efforts towards online twitter blue check marks. Those people were never going to join in the first place.

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Wasn't there another thread about how the military was understaffed in Britain, too? What next? A thread about a shortage of kombat kangaroos in the Australian anti-emu battalion?

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it's a sunk cost fallacy, they invested so much time and effort into this conspiracy that they can't accept the truth now, or it would have all been for nothing.

>In what world wouldn't the military make the vaccination mandatory, considering all the other vaccinations they made mandatory?
because the clot shot was rushed to market without enough trials and testing like most vaccines?

They let them die of a curable disease so they could do human experiments on living victims, you disingenuous fuck. So happy the public is catching onto the sleazy shit doctors do. The entire medical profession is built on torture and lies.

>How the fuck did it come to this?
nigger, unemployment is at a record low
how retarded can you get?

Yeah. Whatabout. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Then, it was dumb southern nigs so people looked the other way. Now it's come for us. Answer the question. If you were targeted for those experiments, would you resist? Or would you trust the experts?

Appeal to majority.

Not true. They were given something they were told would treat some other ailment.

so like every other industry and study field? you know you can just go live in the woods somewhere.

>I am already going to die in my 30's
Oh thank God

you know syphillis is fatal without treatment right? what do you mean "trust the experts", what else are you gonna do, pray?

If your industry involves human experiments on unwilling or unconsenting victims you need to commit suicide right now.

>Everyone else does it so it's ok
Touch brass faggot.

No user, just two more weeks and all of the vaxxers will start dropping like flies! I already heard they had a mass die off in a night club in Africa so really we can see it's going to kill off everybody else in just a few dayz!

Fuck you and fuck your brainwashing sessions

EVERY industry did this, carmakers, shoemakers even fucking hatmakers.

To be fair he'd actually need to be having sex to catch syphilis so it's not a worry for him.

This is super simple. I'm not joining because.it's too much fucking work, too much wear on my knees, and for not enough pay. It's more 'service' than career. I'm in this to get to do cool shit, not make friends or spend time doing stupid shit.

Besides, I've already seen how to get around this shit. I finish college, get a cush six figure 9-5, hit the gym on my way home, range on the weekends, and the odd training session with some Tier 1 dudes when I can swing it. Then I get my Insta/Twitter account with me decked out in gucci gear, and look to cash in as an , or maybe even a trainer one day.

And if someone questions my creds, I just mention the military was simply to homo for me to serve in. This lets me still call myself a "warrior" as a lifestyle choice. The 'war' part is optional.

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They didn't tell you they were giving you syphilis. The people they tested this shit on weren't in there to be treated for syphilis. They were seeking relief from other common ailments. You really are a disingenuous faggot. So again, would you trust the experts since you know, they ARE experts after all.

Hat makers didn't let test subjects die of a disease with a known cure so they could play Dr. Mengele, you stupid nigger.

>They didn't tell you they were giving you syphilis.
No one was given syphilis. They already had it.

Yeah, they just routinely poisoned themselves with mercury.

hatmakers put fucking mercury into their hats. when it came to light that this is making them sick they paid unknowing women and minoritys to do it. same thing happened with clockmakers and the radium girls. tell me any industry and i bet you they killed/tortured/enslaved people willingly.

>Faux News
No thanks

>join the military
>sign away 8 years of my life and my knees and maybe get maimed in some weird way (probably not even a cool way, like in a truck accident or something)
>get shit page
>get shit benefits
>have to hop around the country
>shitty prospects post-enlitsment
Or
>start working right out of college
>invest salary
>actually be financially secure by 35
>maybe have enough money to actually buy a house
There's really no competition here. The army is just a bad deal these days.

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it's easy, unemployment is at an alltime low, so people are not desperate enough to get into the military.

You dumb fucking disingenuous willful idiot. Hat makers didn't know mercury was poison. The doctors at Tuskegee KNEW they were giving unconsenting victims syphilis, they KNEW it was curable, and they KNEW they would die without treatment. STILL treatment was withheld because the "experts" wanted a control group for their fucked up tests do you see the difference? Are you still going to trust the experts?

It doesn't kill you off. Those claims were intentional well-poisoning. Its meant to cut back life expectancy. If people don't live as long, then every country's systems that deal with retired persons arent stressed as much. America for instance has a Social security system that's slated to default and go bankrupt in the near future. Imagine the rage when tens of millions of people that have had 30% of their paychecks stolen from them for their entire 30 years of working with the promise of getting it back when they retire be told to pound sand, they won't get shit? This is a pretty good way to avoid that future if people just die a year or two after retiring.

Bingo.
Yep.
The issue is that leftoid culture has done a great job of infiltrating the military, and people know this. The main recruiting base for our military was young white men, and now Hollywood and mainstream media has shoved culture in a direction that demonizes and LEGALLY disenfranchises them.
Young men join the military for the upward mobility the GI bill and the skills you learn, but they stay for the brotherhood and the camaraderie.
PC bullshit has done a number on that because now I have to filter my enthusiasm and team building through Shinequa’s comfort level.
Shit, I have a fucking leftoid sheboon who works in my office, and she gets all fucking high and mighty when she starts talking about muh feminism muh racism, and no one can tell her to shut the fuck up and do her job or else they’ll catch an EO complaint, and the Skipper isn’t going to do shit to defend them. His hands are tied by a cucked system.
>t. First class in a fighter squadron

hatmakers DID come to know its poison, thats when they started to employ women to do it for them you unlearned unwashed retard. and YES i would trust the experts, since they are still 5000 times more likely to be right than fucking facebook mom groups telling me to drink ginseng tea. you are probably one of those geniuses that get cancer and then travel to india to bath in river full of shit to get healthy, and die a miserable death wondering why god hates you.

Literally no one thinks this. You are creating a strawman to be afraid of.

the military always had a vaccine mandate though. so if thats the reason they are more stupid than i thought.

That's part of it but I really don't think there will be a real war against Russia or China. That thing regarding MAD still applies. I think it's because the military is going woke, top leadership is beyond a fucking joke at this point, and garrison life absolutely sucks giant hairy balls. I used to be an infantryman and being deployed was the best part of my enlistment. I would not want to spend an entire career never deploying.

What branch has it worst?

God damn, are we still arguing about the fucking Covid vax in 2022? Isn't every person that took it supposed to be dead by 2023 or so anyway? If 60% of the country is already guaranteed to be popping off from rubberized blood or whatever , can we not argue about housing benefits or something else instead? Or women in the infantry? Or when you can punch a drill instructor?

Democrats and their supporters? Yeah, you're one of them. I don't know why you guys think /k/ is some kind of lib-friendly board but it never stops being weird seeing how comfortable you lot are with spouting your shareblue-tier garbage, as if you just expect that everyone here that isn't a Any Forumstard agrees with you.

>Isn't every person that took it supposed to be dead by 2023 or so anyway?
2 more weeks!

supposed to die of the vaccine september 21. wait its january 22. ok its march....wait maybe september 22?

With out going into autistic detail, the best plan is go into the Army for 4 years- you don't need to take a 8 year contract. Save money while you're in, and use tuition assistance get an associates for free while you're in.

Then get out and go to a real university on your GI bill. Not only are you going to graduate college debt free, but you can you'll also get a monthly stipend to help pay for housing and other expenses- somewhere around $2000 a month depending on where you are. Sure you're losing 4 years, but between being debt free, being able to make money just for attending school, and sitting on a decent nest egg after your enlistment it's not a bad set up. Just be smart and make use of your GI bill.

Oh I see what's going on. I conflated Tuskegee with what some of the people associated with that trial did in Guatemala. people actually were infected with syphilis to see what the effects of the virus were on different parts of the body. Infection of the eyes was a big study point.

I cant speak for incoming and recruiting but a lot of people in my unit actually list that in their main reason for getting out. It has been a running complaint for years but only recently had it gone from grumbling to saying it the main reason they dont want to renlist
In order its
1. Leadership is trash
2. Things are getting increasingly gay, IE EO hunting and punishing people and promoting purely based on diversity which is a big cause of #1
3. More noticeable in early career guys and mostly starting in the past year is can't afford housing.

As far as the vax goes it and covid in general most people see it all as stupidly overblown both on vax paranoia and command freaking out about people getting minor colds. Deployed people were getting infected before the vax and we were more worried about command freaking out if they heard about it than people getting sick.

They don't. It's a handful of mentally ill leftist shitting up the board in a hopes of changing the narrative.

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>fuel companies were bleeding heart philanthropists for decades
>this year is the first year they decided to be greedy
You realize no one's buying that right?

That wasn't a problem in the 80s. What changed?

>Turns out they developed a mystery drug that'll magically cut people's lifespans short and then were able to give it to everybody without anybody blowing the whistle, but they're letting all of us super smart online people talk about it all we want because reasons
I wish I could live in your fantasy world, it sounds exciting.

>YES i would trust the experts,
Alright retard get in the cattle car

>this thread
There are a lot of people who utterly refuse to acknowledge the fuckups the military has made to alienate itself from the people it tries to recruit

>LEGALLY disenfranchises them
You haven't been disenfranchised of shit you double nigger. Just as bad as women and other minorities saying they don't have the same rights as everybody else.

imagine the decades of study and trials and the billions in funding necessary to even develope such a drug. it's the moonlanding all over again.
>the soviets and all 10k people that worked on it were in on it! they covered up the lie!!

you should NEVER trust the experts.
by the way i have a bottle of distilled snake oil right here, rub a bit of it on your dick and you will NEVER get an std!

See
We've moved it back to an indefinite date now to avoid any further confusion. Just try to prove us wrong now vaxtards

>the best plan is go into the Army for 4 years- you don't need to take a 8 year contract.
Maybe shit has changed but I've been told by people who are in that is a lie recruiters tell people and even a "4 year contract" is still technically an 8 year commitment

Funny how they didn't need any of that to develop the covid vaccine. Oh wait. They kind of did. Fucking thing was patented in 2015.

I would buy that product before I bought into federally mandated flu shots.

Then why are people complaining that the vaccine isn't safe because it was rushed through in a few months?

That's the best way to do it. Maintain plausible deniability and you can get away with anything. That's how Russian collusion in the 2016 election was handled. You couldn't ever prove it because there was always that little bit of plausible deniability but you're certain it happened anyway right?

This is an obvious lie, but as I've been reading along I can't tell if it's because you're a weird leftoid that has to ignore that fact for some reason, or if you're just an actual retard that has no idea about anything that happened before the year 2000 and has no idea how to have an honest argument.

You really think recruiters would so that? Just lie to kids to get them to enlist?

>lefty
You're the one simping for the KGB

Holy shit you are completely retarded.

For PC bullshit? Easily Air Force.
Navy has a fucking BAD manning problem right now, but the deployments keep ramping up. Sailors are hurting, in sea going commands we have very little wiggle room for manning concerns. In my division alone I have 60% manning, and that is mirrored up and down the flight line for everyone of my rate. Frankly we can’t support more than one person on leave OR sick OR in training at one time, and that already means a huge burden on the rest of the team.
We have to meet mission, we cannot fail, but fuck me is it getting to be fucking impossible.
I have a mental health appointment scheduled for the first time in my ten year career, because I have to spend at least 13 hours a day at work and I never see my wife or son anymore.

Women should be disenfranchised from the military.

The whole person I know who wants to join is a woman and every vet I know regrets fighting for this country lmao.
I wouldn't risk my life for the Feds. I'd rather take my chances in a Red Dawn scenario.

These are real issues, it's just that the vatnis love to bang on about problems they created and then pretend they hold the solution.
The solution is actually simple - purge and expose all the tankies and traitors, from Antifa and BLM to FOX

>Magic drug that shortens lifespan
What is HFCS for $200?

Tuskagee was performed on 400 black men who already had the disease. You're thinking of Cutler's further experiments in Guatamala where they infected otherwise healthy impovershed men, women, and children with syphilis.

Gas prices have been falling since the 23rd, retard-sama.
Unlike the food prices in Russia.

>projecting this hard

>How the fuck did it come to this?

years of demonizing fighting age, militant, white males, and spending at least 4-6 years dividing this country in everyway possible. Wealth, race, gender, politics, ect. It turns out making half the country hate the other half and anything in between really shoots yourself in the foot when you trey to recruit for god and country

>Recruiteranons are you OK?
Not a recruiter but I know some. Covid was really the straw the broke the camels back. everything left is just trying to pick up the shattered remains. Also, the new MEPOS genesis system is retarded. Theyre revamping everything but in all the wrong areas, which IMO is for 1 of 2 reasons

>prepping for an actual ground war against a standing army, something we havent done since 2003
>bored politicians and cucked yesman are turning the military into their own woke platform, but have no idea what theyre doing so its a matter of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks

I have 2 years left on this contract. There was a time when I thought I'd do 20. Fuck this

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How about the collusion in the 2020 election?

Separate guy from both of those other guys, you are retarded, go back to discord.

The people you're talking to are retarded, but not 100% wrong.

So a typical first term contract is 4 years, with a 2 year commitment to the Individual Ready Reserves; so a total of 6 years. The IRR doesn't actually require you to do anything though, it basically just means the Army can call you back into service if they needed a mass mobilization. But you aren't going to drill, you aren't doing training, you aren't reporting in or anything like that. For all intents and purposes you're basically out after that 4 year enlistment.

Imagine your argument for wide-scale coercion and administering a vaccine that none of the makers dispute wouldn't have been given to the general population if not for the state of emergency being "everyone does it lol." I don't give a fuck about the vaccine, but the minds of the people who try and justify the definitely shady part of this whole chapter are fucking weird, and if you ever wonder who the people in your society are that would see it turn to shit because it makes them feel like they're in league with (not even themselves being personally) smart, it's the barely-concealed servile lefty-Any Forums retards in this thread.

Russians have been pushing the "USA deliberately infected ALL black war veterans" angle for years if not decades now.
Normies are no longer aware of the actual reality of the events in question.

Kek

Either that or kids can't bother to read a piece of paper handed to them and then decide to blame their recruiters for fucking them over.

Something that wouldn't magically cut your lifespan by 30 years if you injected into yourself twice?

The problem is that an argument could be made for "the trials were too short, i feel unsafe taking this vaccine", but instead its stuff like "they want to mind control us, they want to shorten our lifespan, they want to put chips into us". And ALL countries are in on it!!!!!

imagine signing your life away to fight for zog lmao

you would have to be seriously fucked in the head for that one.

You seem like a clearly stable person who makes sound judgements and can objectively evaluate the state of the board.

I'm white, live in america and have 15 guns.

Never gonna sign my life away for zog though.

So is /k/ just gun/pol/ now?

Holy shit, is this real??? But for fucking *what*? Is this fucking need to spread their bullshit into everything really this much of a pseudo-religious compulsion?

>tried out for Army OCS in 2019
>get denied becuase they were downsizing and I didnt have a STEM degree
>get depressed
>start to pick myself back up, look for new work that would give me more experience (and pay) and hope to try again
>covid happens
>everything shuts down for 2 years
>start the process again
>see articles like this every few days

Part of me things I dodged a bullet, but is it weird that I still want to do it? Part of me doesnt, and I have no delusions that Ill be storming the beaches of Normandy, but I think if I play my cards right I could get a lot of serving. It cant be any worse than the other woke shit/lack of opportunity thats going on in the civilian sector.....right?

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For starters experimental drugs with extremely dubious effectiveness as well as serious side effects are not an vaccine. For second vatniks are way too incompetent as well as disorganized to ever pull off such a massive propaganda campaign. They sure might have dabbled with it where it could but it is laughable to think it is just because of them. This kind of "vatniks are behind anti vaccine and flat earth and drumpf REEE" is the same shit other retards do when they see DA JOOS behind every failure of their own making.

it was a shitty ass, weak sauce "plague", with overblown hysteria surrounding it, which was used for self serving benefits which ranged from crushing small and medium businesses to creating political chaos for power grabs to creating a (massive profit) "cure" for a disease that was even worse then the (mild) disease. Also lockdownerism which has directly lead to this inflation and debt crisis that has now transformed into a recession.

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you think owning 15 guns is some kind of massive richfag expense? LMAO

always has been

yes.

>Also lockdownerism which has directly lead to this inflation and debt crisis that has now transformed into a recession.
Wow no kidding. You mean bringing the economy of the entire world to a screeching halt had economic consequences? And that printing a zillion dollars doesn't make material shortages go away?

>more strawman
Maybe try examining what people are actually say instead of relying on what your NPC programmers told you the opposition thinks.

Right, because an american who browses a board about guns owning guns is some extremely unlikely scenario.

btw, still never fighting for zog lol

Anyone advocating for the infringement of any Constitutional right should be shot.

That's just a consequence of fighting the wrong kind of wars. Nobody wants to get into another Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or whatever new beehive the latest administration happens to feel like shoving its dick into. There's no box in the forms that you can tick to say "I'm signing up to defend the first world, not to bomb the third world." Limit the scope to a much more defensive role and you have a clearer raison d'être.

Things that have never happened for $200 because that's not how fucking military promotions work you fucking faggot.

>No one who writes shit like zog or globohomo unironically is white bro, sorry
lmao how delusional

Do you want me start with the moral, logical, economic, or societal reasons first?

That box is called the Coast Guard user

I'm only going off what people in this thread are posting, so maybe you should get mad at them.

are the russians in the room with you right now?

The vaccine was straight garbage and not at all useful for the military. The only reason to mandate it was to continue pushing the covid nonsense everyone was tired of. There was no practical reason to require it.

Okay, so post your guns already.

Those ARE the arguments, along with "I am not in a risk group and don't feel it's necessary" or "I don't want to take a vaccine that literally does not prevent the disease" or "the government shouldn't be able to tell your employer to fire you because you didn't want a flu shot." You're just not listening.

54311868
The Russians made the military push gay shit?

>there can only be ONE scheming bad guy race!

Wouldn't be the first time the Russian army pushed gay shit on somebody who didn't want it.

54312914
No actual answer from the JIDF

Easily the Navy. They are somehow more cucked than the Air Force. The Army is pretty bad as well.

youtube.com/watch?v=kIQ9R25hXPo

Man I thought retarda were done with complaining about the vax a year later, but appearently it still lives rent free in your head. Your probably gonna be on the old age home crying about it still like a little bitch staying that's the only reason your not a navy seal or some shit. Grow up.

if russia is convincing people to not get the killshot they're good guys in my books

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This Russian smear campaign post against the US military is completely off topic unless you consider this to be a platform for Russian subversion. Note that the Russian dictaorship banned Any Forums and Any Forums owes the Russian dictatorship nothing.Do why is this thread up?

Not him. The younger folks at my job made the arguments you're saying, and all reasonable in my book. For whatever reason, the older folks really did believe Gates was going to chip them, or that it was rewriting genetic code to make people complaint. We had a grandma show up at our school board meeting saying it was desiged to kill kids.

I don't know why the discrepency in the age range, but Inhave not seen anything like that before.

still never taking your jew poison, cry more shlomo.

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...you realize that recruitment materials are public in America, right? The recruitment materials of a "brave girl with two moms" is meant to be shown.

>appearently it still lives rent free in your head

all the antivax people want a reward for not getting it and surviving the pandemic (namely the death of all their liberal peers). they cant just be happy that they didn't make a bad decision.

Seethe cope and dilate, military discussions are not off topic, we have meg daily.

>a year later
The push for vaccine fuckery never ended dipshit. There are still places you can't go without papers and they're STILL trying to push shit about federal employees needing shots.

aif ypu think Russia and Putin are the 'good guys' then the bad news is you are the 'bad guy'.Of course ypu are Russian or paid by them if you were that into putin and in the west you would be a full blown traitor

Russian bot confirmed.The wet fart of a failing dictatorship.

are you having a stroke schizo boomer? calm down and eat some mcdonalds little guy it's all gonna be alright.

Yeah, except for every guy you have making those arguments, you've got five idiots like

i hate phoneposters so much its unreal

Doesn't affect anyone who's not a retard, I don't care nor does anyone else. Keep crying. Never met an anti-vaxxer who I didn't already know was an absolute idiot.

go back nigger

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>t. guy who migrated from r/thedonald in 2016

Everyone's flinging Any Forums-tier shit ITT about it, but the big elephant in the room is patriotism isn't only dead, it's officially lame among the demographic you generally most want entering service. There are entirely too many ways our culture got here in just 30 years, but it all stacks on itself to get us to a point where you either don't feel like this is a country worth enlisting - or even crazier these days - heading to OCS for a butter bar when you could either succeed or languish perfectly fine as a civilian, working or not. The military itself is at fault for some of it, I know of far too many fuckers that would've made fine Marines that get turned down over tattoos or having smoked pot in the past or some other laughably menial shit in retrospect. You can't have fit, healthy, willing people turned away in droves every year, then bitch about staffing shortfalls, wtf? And that's just the Corps. Culturally, the whole woke "America is le bad" shit really does have a marked effect, you can't dismiss that shit all because Tucker or some asinine feels reason. You can't have a culture steeped wall to wall in subversive anti-patriotism and still expect grand numbers of people who buy into the "America's good" line show up to sign the name on the dotted line, for however many of us are still around compared to 1986. The hard pivot to trying to recruit people who historically are *the least* interested in military service also puts off the shrinking pool of people who historically would show up, like it or not.

Unemployment doesn't matter, there've been periods of low unemployment in the past where this wasn't an issue. The problem is (forgive me) motivation, and at every turn, culturally, there's shit sapping the motivation out of the type of person that volunteers for reasons other than not having any other job prospects There was a time when military service was seen as more than just a place for people with nothing else going.

That's not it at all. People are willing to fight and die for their country. If America wants this - it should be a country worth fighting for.

pic extremely related

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Sputnik prevented the disease, made women more fertile, and increased average Russian penis girth by nearly an inch. All of the US vaccines killed more people than they saved, made women pass their entire uterus on their next period, and cause infertility among the US population.

You really don't if you're actually interested in looking.

Fucking bingo. It's a two way street of fuckups, both civilian (culturally) and military. No one is guilt-free in this shit. Problem is this shit is not easy to fix in the short-term, not without a fuckhuge war, frankly.

So not wanting the government to fuck with your body is for retards?

It's so weird how blaming everything on Russia, started out as a faggot left wing anti-Trump movement, but ever since the invasion of Ukraine, it has spread and now you get rightwing faggots on this forum that blame everything on Russia. As if the idea of being skeptical about a vaccine somehow was only able to be formed by another government. Surely people can't think on their own.

Not reading all that shit user

Agreed. Indon't know where the magic number is, but once that happens enough, it overrides any sense of comminity or love you have for your own town. Just thinking about all that idiocy and it's like my own family and friends don't matter anymore. They might as well not even exist.

>You're thinking of Cutler's further experiments in Guatamala
It would seem I am, thanks for the heads up, user.

I hate to break it to you but you're the only guy making any justifiable arguments in this thread. Are there a lot of people out there with some legitimate questions about the vaccine? Sure. But are there a lot more idiots screaming about it for fucking inane reasons online? Also very true.

Why fight are a country that hates you?

Good writeup user. Good effortpost.
I award you a mcSpam and eggs.

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I'd gladly stomp on faggots from Russia, I don't care about the technical level they supposedly have at their disposal (they know they're fucking weak, all they have is their nuclear weapons which they've been oh so quick to talk about at the drop of a hat, no one is moved by it). They're slime, and they need to think about the consequences, not me. Bastards

wait for someone to saw a spelling mistake means you're a super secret russian agent

All of this post is accurate and we're all fucked because of it. This type of shit doesn't reverse course on its own usually, it usually takes a bad wake-up call.

Either way, the government gave people in Guatemala syphilis. Also the members of the Tunguskee experiments were never treated
'The men were initially told that the experiment was only going to last six months, but it was extended to 40 years.[5] After funding for treatment was lost, the study was continued without informing the men that they would never be treated. None of the infected men were treated with penicillin despite the fact that, by 1947, the antibiotic was widely available and had become the standard treatment for syphilis.[13]"

That is probably the least of it. The job market is on the employee side these days, the spoilt shits that grew up in the 2000s have no idea how to set aside their individuality, shut the fuck up and take orders, and the type of person that joins the military isn't the homo-loving kind. Then you have shit like forced vaccinations and wokeness mixed in to really drive the point home.

Oh yeah, Russia and it's troll farms would never try to amplify conspiracy theories and further destabilize America.

nytimes.com/2021/08/05/us/politics/covid-vaccines-russian-disinformation.html
latimes.com/business/technology/story/2022-02-25/heres-what-putins-disinformation-war-looks-like-on-the-internet
wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign-aims-to-undermine-confidence-in-pfizer-other-covid-19-vaccines-u-s-officials-say-11615129200
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/
scientificamerican.com/article/russian-misinformation-seeks-to-confound-not-convince/

That's not to say that people wouldn't question the vaccine on their own, but if you don't think Russia has been amplifying the debate- or at least trying to influence it- you've got your head buried in the sand.

Why isn't "I just don't want it" a good enough reason?

>the military was TOTALLY RAD before it got all woke and made us take vaccine #41!

I mean I get that, and I find it personally annoying as fuck in that it poisons the well, but I find it equally bizarre when the counterpoint seamlessly morphs into "well so what if any of the gobbledygook you loons spout is true, it's normal." That shit leaves me floored. I guess the whole damn thing leaves me floored at this point, shit's fucking gone insane.

Well you have to pass the ASVAB to enlist so you don't need to worry.

No, Russian's have better English than that. That guy is just a fucking moron. I'd get why he thinks people hate him though. Nobody likes idiots.

>nytimes
>latimes
>jewstreet journal
very credible sources totally not owned by the zog, thanks shlomo!

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Kill yourself glow nigger.
Only way you will recruit me is from a penal (hehe) force for massacring chinks after I enacted my own personal Holocaust of you faggots.

because youre putting other peoples lifes at risk ffs

Didn't we just kick out a bunch of guys for not taking a vax that our own CDC admits doesn't work?
Biden is going to successfully destroy the two greatest sources of American power - the military and the dollar. It's actually kind of based in a really miserable way.

For now, unfortunately. Once the war's over it should even out over a couple months, I'd say.

stop pretending thats your actual opinion.

Not my problem.

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This but unironically.

>get malaria vaccine, don;t get malaria
>get polio vaccine, don't get polio
>get tetanus vaccine, don't get tetanus
>get tuberculosis vaccine, don't get tuberculosis
>get experimental COVID-19 vaccine, get COVID-19

hmmmmmmiwonder

That'd be preferable to people saying that it'll kill you in two weeks, but most retards can't just leave it at saying they don't want it.

Lmao you should kill yourself if you're that stupid and genuinely believe that

You're literally not. The vaccines don't prevent contraction and do not prevent spread. The only claim the CDC will stand by at this point is that they help mitigate symptoms. That's it. So whether or not I'm vaccinated has fuck all to do with your health.

imagine signing up to put your life in danger for a country that will subject you to hours of DEI brainwashing about how you are evil for having white skin.

I mean you would have to be a literal willing slave to submit to humiliation and death for the entertainment of those you perceive better than yourself.

Ah yes, those Russians pointing out atrocities that the US government committed. Only the Russians would point out constitutional violations, it definitely isn't fed up citizens. And to prevent your tiny brain from claiming I'm defending Russia, I'm not. Theyre a totalitarian shithole that's also shitty tundra. But unlike Russia, here in the USA, we have a thing called the constitution, and it allows us to criticize our governments and it helps keep them in check. Calling out the bad actions of your government doesn't make you a Mongolian half-breed Russian.

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>anti-vax
Our own NIH admits the vax is just.
Was Russia accidentally correct?

>get provided several sources
>can't argue with that
>better just post buzzwords
Yep, surely you're the kind of genius that would never fall for a Russian disinformation campaign.

Wouldn't say 'totally' but definitely more so, aye.
This. Not worth engaging in these low-effort trolls; they support politically-motivated changes to definitions of words. "anti-vax" has been changed from being 100% against all vaccines to simply 'protesting a government-mandated vaccination policy'. You can say you've had all but this one and they'll still call you it. They are black and white non-thinkers. They are stubborn and upset that they sold their soul to the devil a year or two ago when they didn't need to- and are upset with stronger-willed people who didn't.

No,being so afraid of the government that you do things against your best interest is retarded.

That's the bit that pisses me off, I can't respect anything that wants me to think about everyone's feelings every five minutes, and all the prissy shit in an organization tasked with measured and applied destruction, and working seamlessly to that goal. Roles are clearly defined in this field, and needing to imagine how I'm making some, "transcendental-dolphin-toy-cat-beige-tree-myn" feel when I say, "get your ass in gear" surely gums everything up. By the time they're done talking to me about their hyphenated personal identity crisis nomenclature the time action has already passed.

If you're considering going officer, I'd still recommend it. You'll see shit that'll make you question why, but you will still get far more out of it than if you enlisted (sorry bros) and depending on your MOS you may find rewarding work in a private sector job that pays more for something related to what you did, especially if your STEM degree was a deciding factor.

If Chang was in my hometown - I'd pick up a rifle. I worry about my White children's future more from woke retardation than a communist bullet. I'm going to send my son to school and he's going to come back a "woman" or not come back at all because some autist decided to take out his societal frustrations on innocents.

Antivax predates russians. It was a centrists suburb mom driven for most of its history.
Then the kike run media played the left/right brains into calling their kike serum a vaccine and making it political as obfuscation/cover.
Kill yourself glow-kike

Cope, people who got vaccinated don't even think of it until they are reminded by retards who still have it on their mind everyday.

>taking experimental poison that kills your heart and doesn't actually help you at all is in your best interests
kill yourself vaxx shill

Don't look up measels, user. The r value coupled with the vaccine effectiveness rate are relatively sobering. I think if it had been introduced today instead of the 60s, we"d have a lot more non-teenagers with encephalitis and pnuemonia.

I don't think we'll ever see people trusting a new vaccine ever again.

Refining utilization is at an all time high.
Problem is that no new refineries have been built in the past 50 years, and 1/3 of the capacity is now being used for junk like biodiesel because we're subsidizing the fuck out of it.

Alright. So that's false. We know for a fact the vaccine does NOT prevent transmission. Multiple shitlib news sites have confirmed that. Recent variants have been so mild that people don't even know they're positive. You can't make a statement as blanket as "people could die" when we know for a fact that the vaccine doesn't prevent covid, which means you still, no matter how vaxxed you are, you still have a chance of dying from it. I don't know if it causes retarded ass complications or whatever. It doesn't do what it was sold to do, and they keep changing what it actually does when it's politically viable. That's enough bullshit for me to not want that shit. If they don't know how it works to the point that they keep having to change what it does or how effective it is to meet infection rates, then they don't know dick about side effects. I've alpha and beta tested plenty of software. I'm not doing that for medicine. Especially with zero financial or judicial recourse should their ideas fuck me up would I get it.

>be healthy 18 year old
>hormones coursing through veins
>want to belong to something bigger
>want to shoot guns in defense of freedom

>join military
>wear surgical mask 20 hours a day (it's part of the uniform)
>O2 levels in blood below sustainment levels during periods of activity, still tough it out
>"you're a toxic white male who will probably sexually harass one of the transgender recruits"
>sit through 9 hours of CRT anti-american training where you are trained to worship president obama
>3 out of 20 recruits in your cohort transition to female during basic
>only about 45 minutes for running or weight-lifting
>have poison forcefully injected into your veins
>now have myocarditis, permanently disabled
>have to withdraw from military
>sorry, your injury was exempted from coverage due to complete legal immunity granted to pharmaceutical companies over the "covid emergency"

Giving the government the authority to fuck you over financially if you don't consent to mandated medical procedures is bot in your best interest. How do you not understand this?

>i know people don't want to hear this but:
The recruiting "crisis" is entirely manufactured

Oh yeah? What are we getting?

>The message is very clear if you’re a patriotic young American
Kill Russians

>non-sense

>be me
>working at an election center
>no voters yet
>silence
>other poll worker stands up
>"SO DID YOU GUYS GET YOUR BOOSTERS?"

Stay fixated, dude

Because the biggest perceived threat against most americans right now is the american government itself and not some foreign country, and nobody will willingly join it, not for what they're paying right now

Understandable, that shit was not supposed to get that fucking long lmao.

I refuse, I'm racist against fast food Irishmen.

this graph is for retards

billions of taxpayer dollars laundered in politicians pockets and a depression worse than the great depression

There was a coherent thought in here somewhere, I just know it. Want to try again, but with proofreading?

But wouldn't the vaccine do it for him? Or is it going to take two more weeks? I'm so confused. When are the die offs going to happen?

nice strawman jewboy, enjoy your heart disease. no refunds!

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I dunno his post reads fine to me, a white american.

You sure you aren't a russian shill?

>depression worse than the great depression
Eventually you fuckers are going to get one right in this regard. Not because you actually knew better, but just because even the sun has to shine on a dogs ass once in a while.

So perfect for the people it's aimed at.

There isn't a single thing in my entire fucking life that government did that benefited me in any way whatsoever. Quite the opposite.

Basically, fuck russia, get the gay shit out the military for God's sake

So not two weeks? Can you give me a timeline? I want to know when to start maxing out my credit cards and spending all my money on hookers and blow.

I genuinely believe it’s because the shooter games nowadays are fucking garbage. Battlefield, call of duty, combat simulators and other similar games have been clandestine recruiting tools since their inception. You get to shoot cool guns, go to austere locations, operate machinery and equipment you would otherwise never touch. I know several people who enjoyed those ideas so much they decided to make a career of it.

Nowadays they are becoming more arcade-y and fortnite-y, which departs from what the military can offer. They don’t join to mop bathrooms or rake gravel, they join to do all the cool stuff, and games like battlefield are concentrated cool shit. No cool games = nobody gives a shit.

Sounds exactly like the kind of person who would work 4 hours at an election center for 100 bucks, just like you.

Just because Ukraine is an embezzlement scam and Biden is fucking up the petrodollar and monopolar world over it doesn't mean the Russian military isn't an Iraq tier joke off paper. There is no need peer military threat to the US. You chinks and vatniks don't even have secure radios.

Imagine it's the 1930s but the internet exists and you know chang hi check is a dictator as retarded as mao and Spanish civil war is not my problem/10 because the communists all deserve death. That's the average American not going to a recruiting office.
>I don't care about the current thing

Doesn't help that the military is so gay and administration so active in it's hatred of America itself that people in a depression (cause by selfsame administration) won't even put up with it for the paycheck.

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>When are the die offs going to happen?
Around the time when covid kills us all.

Paved roads, provided you an education, created the infrastructure you're using to shitpost in the internet right now, enacted safety standards on the food you eat so it's not mixed with saw dust and lead paint, keeps harmful chemicals out of your drinking water, subsidized your parent's home with large tax cuts, ect. Should I keep going?

>Biden is going to successfully destroy the two greatest sources of American power - the military and the dollar. It's actually kind of based in a really miserable way.
If you look at his presidency from the standpoint of the Chinese interests he belongs to, he's actually doing a great job.

This take is bull shit. Americans joined the service en mass after 9-11 to fight for their country. Fox News melts brains.

Holy shit, this really IS reddit!

post guns
>protip: you can't

You will never get back the time spent arguing with willing idiots on the internet, user. Stop engaging with people who seek only to put you in a bad mood.

Remember, this is always, ALWAYS who you arguing with here, myself included.

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On topic, it's because job markets good, young kids would rather play games than sports, a series of retarded wars, vaccines turning off some retards, and in general the military losing its socail standing and appeal.

Did you read that post to the end?

you first fed

he said a developed nation user, not middle eastern shitholes full of dune coons with lee enfields and tanks from the 60s.

lmfao

>hey sign up with us white male!
>you'll be serving with this tranny and fat black lesbian
>you'll need to do their jobs and carry most of their shit because they're weak and sick all the time
>you also can't say anything about it ever
>you also need to go to these classes about why you're shit where they can dump on you
>also we'll be promoting them over you so you get to take their orders and they get more pay for doing nothing
Wait, why don't you want to sign up?

HAHAHAHA

You would know what it's like wouldn't you? Maybe you should go back already.

Pretty true, I've got to clean the house tonight before my date tomorrow night. I should really get to it. Best of luck with this thread friend.

I have a white son and a white daughter. I worry for their future.

So Republicans or our Jews?

So if they reported about it on CNN you would believe it?

Thenonly question is, when lolberts grow up, which way to the most often go?

Well the education system clearly failed you two idiots, but the point largely stands.

>>>Reddit

>job market good
No one believes this.

The is correct. However, I would add "Any Forums-tier" shit, like the covid/vaccine nonsense, wokeness, energy policy, etc are significant contributirs to the decline of patriotism

No, especially when it's labeled as an "opinion" piece. But that's just me.

You have to take a trail mix of vaccines in boot camp. Anyone who joins and refuses the vaccine doesn't deserve to serve our country.

>doesn't deserve to serve our country.
You mean serving it by blowing up goat herders in the mid east, or maybe serving it by blowing up rice farmers in vietnam?

Please tell me you're trolling. Please GOD post that you are trolling. I pray that you are not a real person that is allowed to vote.

How does recruiter work as an mos? I knew a kid that joined up right at like 17-18 and they put him to work recruiting at the local high schools before he got shipped off to Korea

unlike them getting three avocado toast lunches, I got ceramic plates
Soory lad- we are NOT the same

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I don't think fascism means what you think it means.

I'll wait here while you autistically explain how you don't actually benefit from any of those things and the government isn't involved with any of them if you want friend. It's not going to make you any less wrong, but I'm sure it'll make you feel better.

Does not reflect reality. The prospect of an actual war typically takes recruiting numbers through the fucking roof. Men join the military (in America) because they want to kill enemies.

Recruiting numbers drop when the hiring economy is favorable to poor males (like it is right now) or when the military is embarrassing itself (clowning around in a fight with a bunch of gooks in pajamas so a few butterbars could get promoted and some companies could make bank; standing around "protecting" an IQ 60 subhuman who literally fucks goats and is actively trying to get you killed after he takes his gibs). There's better-paying jobs everywhere right now where you don't have to pretend to take some troon playing dress-up general seriously.

yeah utterly gutting any kind of legitimacy to the US claims of supporting freedom and justice was definitely worth shooting gooks defending their homeland, only to lose the war to those 3rd world gooks anyway LMFAO

The military hasn't """""""served""""""" the nation since 1945.

It's not an MOS. It's an assignment you can pick up midway through your career. It's usually that, Drill Sargent time, or being an instructor someplace. Generally you'll get assigned to do something like that as part of your career progression.

What your friend did is called home town recruiting. Before going to your first duty station the Army will send you back to your recruiting station for two weeks to help out the recruiters.

Yes. Did you? What fucking developed nations could we possibly go to war against?

streets are fucked, kids are falling behind international standards more and more every year, brown and blackout are becoming more common, harmful chemicals, plastics and shit like cornsyrup still totally fine, tapwater literally non drinkable poison in parts of the country, housing market dead but yeah everythings gravy

Nah, this is basically the “get woke go broke” adage but for real shit and not just video games. Things like star wars or video games taking their audience base for granted and pandering to a bunch of women and faggots, none of which consume the product and a bunch of those fans you took for granted to always keep buying fuck off.
They assumed that young white rednecks would always keep joining for the same reasons they always did while they pandered to women and faggots again, who were obviously never going to join. In fact in this case it’s even worse, because they clearly don’t want young right wing white guys anymore because the powers that be are viewing them as the enemy, and they know they won’t be able to address that enemy with an army that is entirely made up of that demographic

So by that logic you must believe Donald Trump colluded with the Russians to be elected president and denied Hillary her rightful place

yeah those rice farming gooks that just wanted to not be invaded by americans and raise their family in peace but then had napalm dropped on them and watched their children burn to death were totally communists. your view of vietnam is incredibly infantile, most of the guerillas didn't give a shit about communism they were just pissed at burgers for killing their friends and families.

right wing populism, which people occasionally mislabel as fascism
>t. recovered lolbert

i'd take a fascistic regime sympathetic to my ideals over the nonsense we have now, though

>fill your ranks with undesirable niggers and spics
>make educating recruits on trannies, furfags and other subhumans mandatory
>make a controversial experimental vaccine mandatory
>have incompetent morons in charge who couldn't win a war for the last 30+ years
>wonder why nobody wants to join

I believe this and it holds more water than the election was stolen lie.

>Paved roads
Absolute shit I pay extra for anyways
>provided you an education,
Absolute shit, my mother taught me everything I ever needed, learned the rest from my colleagues, lately made me regret YEARS I wasted in high school
>created the infrastructure you're using to shitpost in the internet right now
Absolute shit i once again pay premium for
>enacted safety standards on the food you eat so it's not mixed with saw dust and lead paint
How would leadpaint and saw dust get into my steaks and beggies?
>keeps harmful chemicals out of your drinking water
Lol
>subsidized your parent's home with large tax cuts
This, except exactly the opposite.

so why are you here then? it's obvious you don't own guns nigger.

what really killed it for me was growing up all my life seeing vets out on the street corners, broken and alone.

hmph memflaggots

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