What makes Western artillery so much better than Russian, aren't Russians supposed to be masters of artillery?
What makes Western artillery so much better than Russian, aren't Russians supposed to be masters of artillery?
Christian Reyes
Isaiah Smith
Yes, what makes it better exactly?
Ryder Harris
Probably that you're getting it for free
Asher Harris
Western artillery systems are full of fancy electronics and fire guidance systems that require a lot of maintenance and need tons of supporting infrastructure, but they they probably hit hard and precisely.
Russian artillery is more basic but they simply have a shitton of it, and near unlimited shells from those gigantic soviet arsenals.
Kevin Kelly
Its hard to be master of anything when you are 40 years being in every field.
Liam Reyes
better range, accuracy, every gun is connected to system that tells them where to shoot and how to calibrate gun to shoot there. They also have specialized rounds like SMART subamunition rounds that can find it's own targets in area where they were shot at
Ian Thompson
so much destruction
what's the point..
Mason Morris
Supression
Range-finding
Disabling infrastrucure(in this case, that road is now worthless)
Cry about it, moloch worshipping UN memeflaggot
Adam Smith
The Russians have way more than arty than they know about.
Kevin Richardson
1000 D-30 > 100 Caesar
Hunter Kelly
Not artillery, it's TOS-1 with thremobaric rockets
Sebastian Davis
Thats cool but do they work with minimal maintenance in actual battlefield with dirt and shit all around? My personal experience back in the days that all that fancy gps/laser shit is rendered useless in Finnish enviroment but don't know has things improved since
Camden Walker
And this is why its worse. They would run out of ammo and platforms 10 days into a major war. Russia simply has endless amounts of the things that matter for artillery to keep functioning.
Andrew Cruz
russia goes for quantity with artillery and in the end that is probably going to win out in an all out war.
something like caesar will break down eventually.
Gabriel Reyes
Russia have been jamming gps according to ukroshill jews like Michael Kofman.
Leo Sanders
Guided rounds make up a tiny small fraction of all stockpiled shells
Kevin Ward
What about their HP and crit stats?
Adrian Russell
Hard to be master of anything when your entire country's corrupt from top to bottom. Everybody's lying, everybody's stealing. From the steel producers to the truck manufacturers to the quartermasters to the mechanics to the troops operating the thing.
So your equipment's shit, if it exists at all.
I mean, Western military procurement's corrupt as fuck too, but it only steals from the taxpayers.
Samuel Nelson
What artillery do Finns use? Looks like Finnish Army is using a mix of Western, domestic and Russian-style equipment (like PKMs)
Jason Lopez
Yes... so much better.
Sebastian Wood
Yes, but it doesn't matter how much gear you have if the enemy's has twice the range and can hit you without you hitting them. You're just offering them a bigger target.
Daniel Adams
please buy Archer artillery systems
Connor Gray
Not a problem if you can keep it supplied. Which they can, because their logistics are a million times better than Russia's.
Landon Rodriguez
No proof of that exists though
Cameron Hill
there were already video proofs of PzH SMArt rounds destroying Russian armor so works just fine, 1500 of this rounds provided translate almost 1:1 into 1500 destroyed vehicles and doesn't require area saturation with 100,000 rounds
>do they work with minimal maintenance in actual battlefield with dirt and shit all around?
Currently all provided western artillery works fine, even after months of fighting
>They would run out of ammo and platforms 10 days into a major war.
Platforms still working after more than 10 days in Ukraine.
>Russia simply has endless amounts of the things that matter for artillery to keep functioning
Which require huge amount of ammunition, that require more trucks, which require more fuel and men to supply it. Ammunition that needs to be stored and what last week showed us, HIMARS are very good at destroying ammo depo after ammo depo
Caleb Walker
The effectiveness of artillery is 90% fire control organization/technology and communications and 10% the pieces themselves. Give a brigade 100 ww2 pieces like M1A1s yet organize these batteries around a system where forward observers exist on a platoon level where they can observe with unobstructed comms directly to the batteries. This force will destroy a force of smiliar size equipped with the most modern artillery pieces if they are lacking in forward observers and communications.
Leo Howard
>Russia simply has endless amounts of the things that matter for artillery to keep functioning.
Do people actually believe this?
Owen Green
Problem is that is always better to have more slighly worse and basic vehicles than few ultra hi tech vehicles. Another thing is that western military industry is made for maximum profit. It is more about making equipment expensive. Sell to NATO countries and do nothing with it.
Gabriel Peterson
they are.
picrel 203mm artillery
Hunter Walker
They're beautiful.
Asher Thompson
BREAKING NEWS !!!
Jeremiah Martinez
next a 240mm mortar.
bigger than our biggest mortar
Ryan Phillips
Will they shoot this caliber?
Asher Thomas
Swedes should send few of those to Ukraine if they want advertisement to their arty. Imagine blow to Frenchies and Krauts when Archer outperforms CAESAR and PzH2000