Why do people think eugenics is wrong?

I honestly dont get it.
Whats wrong with wanting the human race to imrpove? Some retards will get their feelings hurt because they have bad genes? who cares?
Someone please explain this to me

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Historically eugenics has been done by murdering genelets, and people don't like murder, but there's no reason why you couldnt eugenics without death camps

Good on the individual level. You don't let a government body the ability to decide for you though, that's dumb.

Because it's inhumane. Also those in political power are exempt. I mean look at Goebbels with that deformed leg, you think he should be allowed to reproduce in a society based on eugenics?

>You dont let a goverment body the ability to decide for you.
I agree with this, but what if just once a year you get called to like give some of your sperm or eggs so they can make genetically good babies in a lab and have foster homes for those children who'd aside from some tests here and there have a normal life?
I agree the goverment shouldnt like make people have or not have sex with eachother, but just using reproductive data to make better humans doesnt seem mad to me.

Fear of rejection. No differentiation between positive and negative. Hundreds of years of kike emancipation propagating filthy egalitarian humanism. Disortientation from ancestors. Throngs of immivaders brought by kikes. Weird faggot corporations and religions taking profits from demographic browning hustles. Photogenic culture of appearances rather than relations. Women running about like mad idiots ruining families with kike divorce lawyers. Stuff like that.

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The instinct to care for the weak is selected for, because children and women are weak, and a society that doesn't have it will perish. But with population growth, this instinct, unchecked, results in endless growth and dysgenics. It's because people are too kind, and don't want to exterminate the weak and inferior. Unfortunately, as the weak and inferior accumulate, they become a serious danger to everybody else. It is the genetic version of climate change, in that it happens slow enough to put off having to worry about it, and in that it has become a fiercely partisan issue that is denied outright by one side of the debate.

>but just using reproductive data to make better humans doesnt seem mad to me.

well that's only been possible in the last decade or so (designer babies). historically "eugenics" means discrimination and inhumane treatment. But yes NOW it can be done humanely, the only qualms left are moral. In time it will probably be illegal to have a natural birth. All babies will have to be designer babies.

Genetic engineering is the only way out of this. Soft genocide

i don't think it's wrong, it just doesn't work. more specifically, negative eugenics has some value but positive eugenics is a fantasy

Im talking modern day eugenics, so no death camps or jew hate or anything.
Just collecting sperm and eggs and breeding humans for specific purposes, like pairing high IQ together, or pairing people with great lung capacity together to breed humans more designed to get used to a more flooded earth.
No one would be hurt, race would not be a factor since the races would mix, no one would be hurt.

either you've not looked into the limitations on this kind of stuff or you're misunderstanding the process that would be involved. all of positive eugenics is based around correlative properties (many of which are argued to be stat. artifacts) so most likely these would turn out to be normal babies with no advantage over normal babies. some even argue the most likely outcome (aside from average baby) is malformed/dysgenic baby. you can cull sets of genes from the population, but we don't understand enough about the kinds of things eugenicists typically value to force them onto a population. it's just a fantasy m8. if it weren't, china would already be doing it.

Humanity is made up of individuals, and any action undertaken by humanity is ultimately done by individuals. Those same individuals will always fight for their own survival and fight for the biological imperative of procreation. Eugenics is retarded because it inherently misunderstands human nature and the concept of organization for the sake of a determined outcome as fanciful as humanity perfected.

imo it's inevitable, mostly because of competition. Nations like China are already testing this out, others will have to encourage designer babies or be dominated in the future by those that do.

If his mental acuity made up for it, yes. And vice-versus for physical acuity. You can always breed those issues out.

I’d argue there is a clear rationale to forcibly abort the clearly disabled and remove the worst in society (low IQ, high violence, mental illness, physical malformities) from the gene pool

This response actually makes sense to me, along with some other responses ofcourse.
I wasnt coming from a place of malice just genuine curiosity and your response has cleared some stuff up for me, thanks!

Eugenics is a moral duty
Eugenics has nothing to do with mythical death camps
Shut up liberal
Letting dysgenic violent stupid retards be born and cause misery and mayhem is inhuman

because hitler

china isn't really doing this, they're terrified that a malformed sequence will spread into the population. every time they catch a rogue scientist fucking around with it they imprison/kill him. whatever you say about china, they have a lot more wisdom and humility than western reductionists do. they realize it's more complex than plug-n-play

yw user. if you still want to support eugenics, the death penalty and sterilization of certain criminals (murderers, rapists, etc.) are the best things to support. compared to other eugenic practices they have broad public support and they have a proven track record because they remove the entire set of genes that created an actualized behavior rather than just a potentiality for it.

Sensible policies

Sterilisation required to claim welfare
This will eradicate abortions and drastically lower the nigger and lumpen underslass population but in a humane way
Mandatory sterilisation of ALL criminals and the mentally ill
Large tax deductions etc for big families from healthy smart couples

The thing about death panels is somehow the most dysgenic get a seat on the board.

>lumpen underclass

>Sterilisation required to claim welfare
most people ask for welfare after they have bred
>Mandatory sterilisation of ALL criminals and the mentally ill
too extreme. you risk culling potentially valuable genes if your standards for culling are that lax
>large tax deductions for big families
here you simply remove the incentives that created the desirable couple in the first place

Interesting take user , how long do you think it would take for the genetically superior to just decide to terminate their lesser halves? 40% semi God population to 60% normies? Idk , I would definitely donate some spooge to see if my genes were worthy of continuing or not.