Marriage and children are overrated - Change my mind

1. Most marriages are destined to fail. Divorce rate is about 50% and a large chunk of "successful" marriages still look quite shitty. My parents for example have been married for 25 years but they rarely talk or do anything together, they just sit in separate rooms and watch TV all day.
2. It seems like tons of men (particularly on this website) don't really like women much and only view them as a necessity to cure loneliness/horniness and to breed them. Same with women, plenty of them don't like men. I personally find most women to be quite shallow and annoying, I don't see a good reason to spend my time with someone I deem annoying.
3. Children are also incredibly annoying and a massive financial burden. Many of you guys would say children give meaning to life and that people who don't procreate are failures but there are countless great men who never had children or even wed. Beethoven, Brahms, Plato, Kant, Da Vinci... even Hitler. Children are not the end all be all.
4. Dating has only gotten harder in the internet age and the economic and social conditions for raising children is only getting more difficult.
I just don't see the benefit. Sex isn't that hard to attain (especially with money) and I'm not lonely as I have great friendships so I'm not missing out in those regards. What reason is there for me to tie myself down to something that has a high likelihood of failing or making me unhappy?

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tldr OP is debbie downer

Why don't you kill yourself then.

>What reason is there for me to tie myself down to something that has a high likelihood of failing or making me unhappy

>Kant
>Hitler

Two people who were so fucking miserable they changed the world. Kant never had sex. Hitler is unequivocally onions and shot himself ('muh female skull' is cope).

OP has never been and love and should follow the Austrian's example

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no fucking with this website replaces the word s 0 y with 'onions' lmao

because there's so much more to life than marriage and children and I'm not suicidal
see point 3

Love and lust exist to satisfy the prime directive of life.. procreation.

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everyone laugh at the new guy.

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Marriage fails here because ppl are broken. No morals. No honor. No integrity. We are lied to and told its okay to divorce. It is practically expected in some career fields. We live in a broken country. No wonder the marriages are broken.

You weren’t here when it was being used to high hell. I’m glad you newfriends can’t use it without making yourself look like you’re using L33tsp33k.
I know anons say it, but you really should lurk for about a year or two before you post.

3. All those ppl u mentioned are cuck faggots. Lol. Fucking losers. Kids are great. Best thing that ever happened to me.

Funny that divorce rates 70 years ago were literally 1/8th what they are now. Better not try to change it. *yawn* best to lay down and die. Im gonna go play feed the woods, and let the moss consume me. Children are annoying after all.

OP is literally uncool wine aunt

>70 years ago were literally 1/8th
less woman in the work force so they needed to stay.

I'm married, it's great. Having love and companionship is the best experience in life.
>Change my mind
Nah. Do not get married and do not reproduce. Why? Cause your a faggot. Your better off a miserable genetic dead end.

>why marry
A good marriage and a need for it is something you can only truly understand once you find the "one"
The person you know you can't live without. Said girl should unironically be your best friend, not just some random woman. And she should bring out the best in you

I knew I wanted it, but I did not know how good it would be for me before I had it.
My wife got me to start going to church again, helped me mature from a college fag to an adult, etc. I'm very thankful for her and she has been a blessing. On days where we are apart I always look forward to being home again and seeing her.

Simply, it is something your hooker cannot replace because sex is not what so many really need. Companionship is. God gave us marriage and it's a blessing when you ask for his help with it instead of going your own way.

t. Married user

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>Most marriages are destined to fail. Divorce rate is about 50% and a large chunk of "successful"
This is a recent phenomena and coincides with increased spiritual poisoning of our people by International Jewry. You'd be hard-pressed to find divorces just 60-70 years ago.
>My parents for example have been married for 25 years but they rarely talk or do anything together
Anecdotal and useless.
>It seems like tons of men (particularly on this website) don't really like women much
The thrashing of bitter losers and Jewish propagandists for the most part. Most men love women.
>Same with women, plenty of them don't like men.
Reddit/Twitter don't reflect broad female opinion. Most women love men.
>Children are also incredibly annoying and a massive financial burden
Children are only "annoying" because barely any people these days actually understand how to raise children. This is in no small part the media's fault and well as kike social elements. If children are reared properly, they can be delightful. The "massive financial burden" element is a meme.
>Many of you guys would say children give meaning to life and that people who don't procreate are failures but there are countless great men who never had children or even wed. Beethoven, Brahms, Plato, Kant, Da Vinci... even Hitler. Children are not the end all be all.
Can't argue that there seems a connection between "greatness" of some men and not having children, but for every great man you mentioned, tens of thousands died accomplishing nothing. Hitler also likely would've had children had the world not turned against him and there was time for peace.
>Dating has only gotten harder in the internet age and the economic and social conditions for raising children is only getting more difficult.
Part of this is true and cannot be argued, but I wouldn't say it's hard to meet girls with the Internet being a tool.

>marrying and having kids with someone you hate
It's hard enough doing it with someone you love. Can't imagine

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...so? Shouldnt we, ya know, unfuckulate the current situation to perpetuate the health and number of the species?

>there is a 50% chance the relationshp will fail
+90% of new companies fail, doesn't mean you shouldn't attempt to start one.

>most men don't like women and need them for loneliness cure. all women i met were annoying.
people in general are trash and annoying, that is why you don't marry anyone who simply just "likes" you. standards are there for a reason. men being simps and falling for the first bitch that gives them attention is the main problem here.

>children are incredibly annoying and massive financial burden
stop being poor, also if you raise your children well, they can be an incredible investment that pays dividends once you're old and tired.

>dating has gotten harder in the internet age
can't argue with this one. dating market is absolute garbage at the moment.

The creations of Beethoven are infinitely greater than anything your penis could produce and greater than anything your children will ever do. This is an objective fact.

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Then be alone & die alone, leftist. Just do it quickly thanks.

kek this is top tier bate m8

Marriage then and marriage now have completely different legal meaning.
Today's """"marriage"""" is hollow shell of it's previous meaning. Trick to lure shortsighted conservacucks in who buy into marriage word.

Nigget faggot, the post

Get ready user, you are going to piss off a lot of proud stepdads who married single moms that post here. They have nervous breakdowns when you point out how stupid you'd have to be to get married nowadays. I see it in every thread like this massive seething and coping imminent

actually dude that's just boomers, who are miserable, hateful, toxic people. boomers are the only people in all of civilization who have ever hated their own wives and children. every other man for as long as time has been recorded has loved his family above all. boomers meanwhile are vicious, hateful, toxic misery sacks. the only thing the boomer loves is consoomer goods.

you are suicidal though