I'm a lefty and I completely condemn your racism, but I'll try to talk to you on your own terms here somewhat:
Now you understand that when you stress a plant out it produces fruit? More fruit than it would naturally. And those fruits try to ripen faster. This is a biological survival strategy for survival, because if you don't know, fruit is how plants reproduce. It's present in all animals and it's so rudimentary to life that it's even observable in plants
So when you don't want to send aid to Africa. Or you want to have awful capitalist policies that keep it oppressed with neocolonialism. Or when you don't want to provide social programs to black people here in the USA because "I don't want THE NIGGERS getting my tax money!" (Common sentiment I hear here on Any Forums even though it's not how it works). Then you're actually contributing to your own demographic disenfranchisement
Furthermore, your capitalism is the main driver of immigration. The secondary driver of immigration is your rightwing disenfranchisement of the left via the electoral college, the senate which highly biases red states, and a litany of voter suppression policies. Once you steal democracy from people you become their oppressor and they'll try to replace you.
All of these things are things you guys are doing that you can be doing differently. You can abandon the rightwing. You can provide social programs to everyone, including black people, which will help level out the disproportionate breeding. You can end neocolonialism in Africa (the USA's CIA has effectively kept Africa capitalist in order to mine it and exploit it). You can embrace full democracy in the USA, of a 1 person 1 vote system so that the left is not motivated to "replace you". You can end capitalism so that there's no financial incentive for very rich people to support replacing you
I know that all of this is going to fall on deaf ears. And really I don't care about the demographic stuff at all as a lefty. I care about class struggle and only class struggle. I leave identity politics at the door when I enter the political realm. But I just figured I'd try to reason with you on your own terms sort of. Because your reasoning on these issues, as with others, is just wrong. It's born of lack of education and blind emotional thinking which is what drives the right
>your capitalism is the main driver of immigration. no. lax immigration laws, are
Brayden Walker
>class struggle but communism is the ultimate counter to class struggle bc it freezes class mobility
look, before you start sharing your opinions, maybe look a little more into them and not from the viewpoint of how to make em work, but doing the devils advocate because this is the only way to arrive at a valid conclusion. the former is mere confirmation bias
Brody Rodriguez
OK well obviously there's no hope for talking reason to rightwingers when they just say incoherent, utterly incorrect, polar-opposite-of-true things like "communism is the ultimate counter to class struggle" like there's just no point in me wasting my time with reason, logic, facts, rationality at that point
Carter Reed
>polar-opposite-of-true things: "communism is the ultimate counter to class struggle"
how? since youre so smart, enlighten me
Jaxson Ramirez
>Just blame capitalism for everything you don't like If you changed your stances against capitalism to being against taxes, then we'd agree.
>I'm a lefty that means you are a retard who doesn't know nothing about how this world works this is my sole comment, because i'm not wasting time on you, learn stuff than come back
>muh racism >muh abortions >muh minorities that means nothing to you, yet to some other people it means cash, you fucking retard
Evan Moore
Commies aren't human
Brayden Sanchez
what is the point of fanning your own balls?
Luke Ross
im starting to lose patience if it takes more than 100 words to explain to me why im wrong that means its prolly mental gymnastics youre doing
Cameron Sanchez
in the meatime allow me to explain why im right in 100 words or less:
in communism, the party decides what will be produced, how much of it and when. so lets admit you collectivize everything. the proletariat possesses the means of production >but its still the perty who makes the decisions. ->2 classes, the proletariat and the party. ->you can become party memeber only with the acceptance of the party as opposed to the rentier class which you can incorporate thanks to your personal success ->freezing the struggle of classes ->i am right, youre wrong
James Richardson
thats not the case. your argument is just not that great. Any Forums knows history and politics. virtually everything that africa was given has been squandered. although i am not a racist myself i would imagine their desires are to not help africa at all and let them genocide/enslave themselves.
btw your opinion that rightwing disenfranchisement of the left increases immigration is simply retarded
Elijah Gonzalez
next time people start with insults instead of arguments, you know why. youre retarded and despite that act like you know everything. its extremely obnoxious. you are unable to have an adult discussion, ie exchanging arguments
youre a dumb piece of human garbage and your actions dont help your cause.
to reiterate: youre retarded and extremely obnoxious dont be surprized if people call you a retard then leave your shit thread its all you'll ever get.
Julian Ross
why did this scare you off OP? i wanted to see the discussion that you started.
Isaiah Mitchell
>Birth rates are only high in Africa due to a survival mechanism of pumping out babies to avoid extinction
To a degree this is true, but you do not take into account lack of intelligence, forward planning or even religious motives, you have taken one factor and proclaimed it as the sole cause of high birth rates.
>Capitalism is the main driver for immigration This is true but not for the reason you think, international capitalists have a vested interest in bringing these immigrants to Europe and America to further divide and take away social cohesion from homogeneous societies to make them easier to exploit (and some group do genuinely wish harm upon our race overall, not all of it is purely economic expoitation for the fun of it.)
Social programs as a whole does not fix the current state of western Europe, morden day social welfare has gone from a saftey net to an abusable system which exploits working men in the name of keeping a reliant populace dedicated to being on the side of the capitalist state. It is the same reason single mothers are cheered on by the entire mercantile-political class, because they are the most fanatic in their support of their liberal capitalist exploiters.
The countries in africa are absolutely not capitalistic and you have no rational reason to assume that more socialism would make them prosperous, especially when all countries that have a high standard of living also have a high degree of market freedom while impoverished shitholes do not
Leftists do not have the solution to poverty and they never will
Brody Hughes
>I know that all of this is going to fall on deaf ears. And really I don't care about the demographic stuff at all as a lefty. I care about class struggle and only class struggle. people like you would be taken seriously if you ever actually condemned non white racism against whites. And really condemn and call for action, not just make a "all races are equal bro" comment.
Anthony Richardson
>I'm a lefty and I completely condemn your racism, but I'll try to talk to you on your own terms here somewhat: >OOGA BOOGA BOOGA OOGA OOGA BOOGA JOOGA BOOGA BLOOGA DOOGA BOOGA BOOGA
Kevin Jackson
Commies get a short helicopter ride
Henry Evans
>It's born of lack of education and blind emotional thinking which is what drives the right I became right-wing in college because I became disgusted with how stupid and dogmatic leftists are. Leftism is stupid because egalitarianism undergirds your entire ideology, and egalitarianism is a profoundly flawed premise; nothing is equal to anything else.
Isaiah Cooper
>I care about class struggle and only class struggle So your solution is to kiss the ass of billionaires who use you as a pawn in their agenda? >Because your reasoning on these issues, as with others, is just wrong. It's born of lack of education and blind emotional thinking which is what drives the right You're projecting your own exact thought process and think you're smarter and better than anyone who disagrees. Lefty confirmed.
Henry Robinson
OP did you come here to just post one message calling someone a retard then leave? Socialist bro, I'm disappointed.
Atleast respond to my well thought out rebuttle from a fellow socialist