That's it. I'm gonna say it

That's it. I'm gonna say it.
Women should be allowed to get abortions and I'm tired of pretending they shouldn't be.
Even if you people are racist more women getting abortions would just mean there'd be less black people. Do you fucks have any idea what this decision means? You're all just going to call me a jew or something but do you think orthodox jews want people getting abortions? Your worldview of jews manipulating all of this shit and the country becoming more degenerate is unironically degeneracy. You guys are the degenerates that are literally celebrating when this country goes back in time and gives people less rights.

Fuck you. Also this is a political thread in case mods want to be gay about it.

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Why should women be able to murder their own offspring, user?

Abortion is the key to everything. This is why our rat shills like OP are freaking out. Ending abortion saves the nation.

1) in the seventies when abortion was legalized that’s when you saw a huge uptick in immigration. It makes perfect sense, the state needs tax payers and if those future tax payers are being killed then they are forced to import them.

2) since the beginning of time women were forced to be chaste or be a mother, the only two things a woman is supposed to do, by making abortion legal women are now living in a world without consequences, this has ruined relations between men and women.

3) the state has created an inverse pyramid with social security and Medicare payments, without more new taxpayers each year the system will collapse. No politician is going to purposefully collapse the system so no matter what anyone says the state will import immigrants for every baby killed by abortion.

4) more whites are killed each year by abortionists than anything

5) 750,000 white babies were killed last year due to abortion

6) most abortions are not poor white “wigger” whites, 27% of them were from catholic girls and 57% of them reported no economic hardship

7) even if they were low value whites, the poorest whites are less violent than the richest Somalian immigrants

8) since roe vs wade we have killed 60m babies and imported 50m immigrants, before we started killing babies we didn’t import immigrants

>but abortion hurts blacks more than whites
A jew shill lie. Black US population % has actually increased since Roe v Wade while white % decreased dramatically

Abortion is the key to everything, ending abortion sets America free.

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When it's a fetus that barely has any brain function it's less conscious than the pigs and cows we slaughter in the billions. Killing the fetus at a roughly early stage is barely even killing something, it's hardly aware.

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That's really stupid
So can I kill sleeping people then? They're not concious
>That's different, they'll wake up later!
like how a baby will become more conscious later?
And that's if I accepted your argument that it is okay to murder "less conscious" humans which I do not.

>1) in the seventies when abortion was legalized that’s when you saw a huge uptick in immigration.
Immigration has benefitted the economy and is generally a net positive.
>by making abortion legal women are now living in a world without consequences
abortions already have consequences. getting an abortion isn't easy, they're costly and quite invasive.
>750,000 white babies were killed last year due to abortion
misleading. fetuses and babies don't necessarily have the same level of consciousness.

The difference between a sleeping person and a fetus is that the sleeping person has at least made it clear before they've slept that they would be highly opposed to being killed while being asleep, wheras a fetus never had the intelligence level to declare any preferences beforehand.

Plus, it's important to add that people who are on life support and braindead/unconscious CAN be taken OFF life support by the people in their family if their family decides to let them pass on. So this argument kind of falls apart.

You're less conscious than a cow, since you think it's reasonable to kill your own offspring

Ironically a cow wouldn't even have the brain capacity or level of consciousness to make a moral claim about whether killing one's own offspring is okay or not, so by definition I would be more conscious than a cow even if I thought offspring-killing was okay.

A baby can do none of those things either, so by this logic it’s okay to kill them too?

So you're perfectly fine to murder any children who haven't made it clear that they don't want to be murdered because they didn't have the intelligence level to declare their preference
You're a complete fucking idiot

I’m gonna answer your spam with a spam counter
>in the seventies
he thinks it’s the seventies
he thinks our elites are gonna stop immigration now, as opposed to having forced nigger birth and mass importation
>by making abortion legal women are now living in a world without consequences
he thinks white women wont just go to abortion states
he thinks white women will give up hedonism for babies instead of just… moving
>the state will import immigrants for every baby killed by abortion
he thinks immigration is gonna stop now KEK
>more whites are killed each year by abortionists than anything
more blacks babies are killed by abortions than white babies each year
> 27% of them were from catholic girls and 57% of them reported no economic hardship
He thinks this will make them more catholic
He thinks people that have no economic hardship won’t just pay to travel to an abortion state, they have the money to do so as you pointed out
>the poorest whites are less violent than the richest Somalian immigrants
the poorest blacks are more violent than the poorest whites and you’re forcing more of those to be born, than blacks imported
> A jew shill lie.
you said it, so it must be true
>Black US population % has actually increased since Roe v Wade while white % decreased dramatically
so blacks have increased with roe v wade, and now you think forcing them to have kids will somehow make that decrease? KEK what a retarded thought

you don't have the legal right to murder someone because they didn't tell you they don't want to be murdered

a fetus, by definition, is a parasite. we base many things on age, which starts on your birthday. no one gives a fuck about the months before that.

but yeah, force the woman to have the kid. when the kid is born, the woman will give it up and want nothing to do with it, dad is long gone. then the kid will be raised by the system (LOL), only to be a criminal druggie on the streets 17 years from now.

you commit genocide when you masturbate, what now?what about cancer? its part of your body, should you not be able to abort it? some cancers have brain cells, eyeballs and teeth.

the reality is pregnancy is a fucking growth in your body that can make you sick and hungry give you all other kinds of pregnancy related illnesses, including death during labor. If it's in your body you should have the right to vacate it. Are you gonna charge mothers with murder if they commit suicide while pregnant? I have to agree with the other user, if you eat meat you are just as guilty for killing something that has feelings and thoughts, albeit basic ones. I think the thing that irritates me the most is that people who complain about "muh freedoms" seem to be the ones that want women to have zero freedoms on this topic

>you commit genocide when you masturbate, what now?
I don't masturbate, but if I did, my sperm would not all grow up to be people. Sperm has to enter an egg for conception to happen and life to form.
Literally arguing with toddlers here
Time to move on

Sorry bro but the 'fetus is a parasite' argument is shit, I'm for abortion and even I can admit that.

Technically all babies are parasites, but I don't believe you can kill a fully formed baby. Don't make this argument.

par·a·site
/ˈperəˌsīt/
noun
1.
an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.


it's literally the definition of a parasite.

>I don't masturbate, but if I did, my sperm would not all grow up to be people. Sperm has to enter an egg for conception to happen and life to form.

The egg needs to be fed to grow, what if a woman refuses to eat and the egg dies? Is she committing murder?

An egg is nothing without a body constantly feeding it and making it grow.

I'm willing to accept that killing babies that have 'fully formed' brains is wrong even if a preference hasn't been declared. I can admit my argument of 'preference declaration' is shaky.
However, we're talking about pre-baby organisms that basically can't think about anything---if you're telling me women can't remove that from their bodies then you're crazy.

(adding that i don't think aborting at all points during a pregnancy is okay, just relatively early on when the brain is barely even formed.)

I understand that but it would logically follow that even a detached baby is a type of parasite, it simply sucks resources from other people and gives nothing in return even if it's not attached to anyone's body physically.

There is an enormous demand for adoptable white babies. No healthy white baby ends up in "the system". They end up in a loving home that desperately wants them and is capable of giving them every advantage in life.

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I agree and am pro-abortion generally. But the court was still right in this case. Roe was a shit decision, Casey was only a slightly less shit decision, the 14th Amendment doesn’t say shit about abortion. I wish it did, but it doesn’t. I wish the Constitution said all sorts of shit, but it doesn’t. I’d be in favor of a federal law specifying rules on abortion. But SCOTUS are not the ones I want deciding when a fetus does or doesn’t count as a person.

A parasite is, as far as I know, an organism of one species taking advantage of another species for survival. A fucking fetus has unique human DNA, half of which it inherited from it's supposed "host". Fuck off with these dumb ass terms.

babies are not attached to the mother. thats what birth is.

there's over 400000 children in foster care right now. what does the color of them have to do with anything? if you dont support abortion, you should go adopt one of those kids that arent wanted or stfu.

let's review some of the video tape of abortion before continuing the conversation.

You are fucking retarded, it says it right in the definition "an organism of ANOTHER species". A baby(fetus) and the mother both have human DNA, the same fucking species.

the human fetus and placenta have a different genotype from the mother.

you can look up the definition of the word online. it fits the bill perfectly. sorry it doesnt fit your narrative. i didnt write the dictionary.

>babies are not attached to the mother. thats what birth is.
Absolutely meaningless distinction. If you can't see how meaningless that is then you're kinda dumb.

CONSCIOUSNESS is what separates babies from fetuses, and that is what matters.

I don't like when people who agree with me agree for silly reasons like a 'physical connection.

They are the same species, both human dude. You know it, quit acting like a moron.

Most people make the mistake of believing that a parasite HAS to be a different species, this is not true, as intra-species parasitism is indeed a reality.
Some examples:
* Angler fish have sex-based parasitism
* Cuckoo bees have egg-based parasitism
The fact remains, that same species parasitism is indeed a thing, despite dictionaries everywhere still insisting it is an inter-species event only.

take it up with the states, abortion doesn't have jack shit to do with the Federal government.

Roe V Wade was a shit decision, this needed to happen.

Hey, psst... Guess what?
You have no power here or anywhere else.
No one cares what you think and there's a reason for that. Do you know what it is? You're inadequate. You're too ignorant to obtain a position of power where you can make your decisions the decisions for all.
Just face it, your life is just as worthless as everyone else's here on Any Forums
Also, it's clear you're racist against Justice Thomas

Have you ever heard of doctors user? Abortion, pregnancy, vaccines, these are all medically related things. If a doctor says a woman should have an abortion because it is medically dangerous to carry to term, then she should. If a doctor tells you your immune system is compromised and you're high risk and recommends the vaccine, then you should. If neither of those things pose a medical threat and you are otherwise in good health, then you shouldn't. Do you see the parties involved fuckwit? Doctors and patients. In no way is it the government's duty to provide medical advice... Ever.

>You have no power here or anywhere else.
False. I started a conversation. That's what the board's for.
>No one cares what you think and there's a reason for that. Do you know what it is? You're inadequate. You're too ignorant to obtain a position of power where you can make your decisions the decisions for all.
Same goes for all of us.
>Also, it's clear you're racist against Justice Thomas
nice meme

i just hate this death cult west has become

>gives people less rights
Also hey.. if a person isn't responsible enough to not let a guy cum in their vagina they get what they deserve.
I e chosen abstinence for the past 6 years. I'm waiting for the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with before I squirt a baby into her.
It's amazing to me people are so shallow in their values that they believe it's their right to not only have sex, which it is, but it's their right to kill the thing they create by choosing to have sex, which it isn't.
You're a fag also, I forgot that.

Sin fuck natty, cincinatti

you are the only sane user I have seen on pol all day.
stay sane.

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The definition you posted yourself literally says that it lives inside an organism of another species. Now, maybe there are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions.

>Do you see the parties involved fuckwit? Doctors and patients. In no way is it the government's duty to provide medical advice... Ever.
Good point; i guess states shouldn't be the ones deciding who can or can't get an abortion then.
thank you for making my argument for me.

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