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Print your own conceal carry permits
Mason Miller
Ryan Flores
Lucas Ross
Based
Ryan Nelson
Gimme a template
Adrian Watson
"No state shall convert a liberty into
a licence, and charge a fee
therefore"
(Murdock v.
Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105)
"If the state converts a right (liberty)
into a privilege, the citizen can
ignore the license and fee and
engage in the right (liberty) with
impunity." (Shuttlesworth v. City of
Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S.
262)
Hudson Torres
I live in a will issue state. But I just don't wanna be on anymore lists.
Ideally the only person who would be able to tell if my weapon is visible or not is going to be dead anyway. And even if it is proven I defended myself lawfully but just didn't have a good boy paper from the state...I'll take the charge.
Nolan Torres
Lol just checked my state just yo make sure I wasn't setting myself up...but yeah. I'll take the charge. Its max 90 days and a 1000 dollar fine. Perfectly acceptable price to pay for me and mines life.
Charles Peterson
Same here. In my state CCing without a license is a misdemeanor. I never bothered to get one since the wait time for interviews was months, and I don't think I should have to pay someone money to ask their permission to use my Constitutional rights.
If I ever have to draw and fire my gun in self defense I'm not going to give a shit about a small fine.
Dominic Gomez
Oh that's really nice but can you place your hands behind your back or are you not going to comply?
Nicholas Sanchez
Real quick research on those. They aren't supreme court rulings. And I didn't go to far in the second one. But the first one only applies to getting a license to sell religious materials.
Its not relevant.
Grayson Morales
This also applies to travel. As in when you are moving your property (car)
Colton Bennett
The first one applies to licensing any right of the people, the lawsuit was brought on by Jehova's Witnesses selling their scripture shit door to door.
Jaxon White
How can my employer prevent me from exercising my constitutional rights? They always say " well that doesn't apply to corporations"...Why??...It is the supreme law of the land, right??
Jayden Scott
In Pennsylvania, maybe. Its not a supreme court ruling, so it doesn't matter either way. Especially since I'm not in PA.
Matthew Gray
I'm in a constitutional carry state, though.
Daniel Kelly
So, challenge it. The legal precedent already exists.
Connor Bennett
Partially related, but whenever someone says the constitution "doesn't give you the right", point them to the 10th amendment:
>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Michael Ross
Again...don't really care. Worse case scenario I get a nice vacation for a few months and give Caesar his pittance.
Adrian Flores
HOW?
Lincoln Wright
they literally are both supreme court cases??
Joshua Young
Seems like you are spreading misinformation, it was a supreme court ruling. Do you get paid to lie on Any Forums?
Sebastian Smith
>How can my employer prevent me from exercising my constitutional rights?
You have to be willing to defend your rights, and you have to be a citizen of the several States rather than a "citizen of the United States" per the 14th amendment. The former is a beneficiary of the laws of the land; the latter is a legal fiction created by congress that has no rights or privileges.
And if you establish yourself as a citizen of the several States, you would bring a 42 USC 1983 action against your employer for depriving you of life, liberty, or happiness under color of law.
>They always say " well that doesn't apply to corporations"...Why??...It is the supreme law of the land, right??
No, it's not. Man's supreme law of the land is actually a collection of documents called the Organic Laws of the United States of America. It consists of:
Declaration of Independence (1776)
Articles of Confederation (1777)
Constitution for the United States (1787)
Ordinance of 1787
These documents are literally "on the books" as law for the United States and the United States of America.
The ultimate law is that which is given by the Heavenly Father, whose name is Jesus the Christ. See the Holy Bible.
Ayden Scott
The other case is also by the Supreme Court.
WHO PAYS YOU TO LIE? WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR? YOU WILL FACE JUSTICE AND WE WILL MAKE YOU CONFESS
Gavin Long
>HOW?
You have a right to bear "arms".
The cult of legalism claims and presumes that all guns are "firearms", which they attempt to place under their statutes.
Firearms =/= arms.
Your right to keep and bear arms includes all weapons that exist, not just guns.
David Williams
9x25 really tickles my pickle. Still haven't got a conversion barrel but they are so cool
Blake Young
the problem is, those rulings only apply to their jurisdictions, and you would have to argue it again. you cannot rely on police to follow the law. they don't even know it and they barely try to follow it. defending your gun rights in the absolute will mean having to shoot someone someday, there is no way around it.
Charles Barnes
>Its not a supreme court ruling, so it doesn't matter either way.
Wrong. When it comes to case law, it falls under the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution... the purpose of this is such that rulings in court are somewhat consistent among the several States where the facts of the matter are largely the same.
Nathan Harris
They are supreme court decisions, they have supreme jurisdiction throughout the US.
I'm going to camp this thread to BTFO you liars since it seems to be important to you. Looks like we found your weak spot.
Ian Murphy
shit, you're right. i misread
Easton Peterson
I dont disagree but what am i gonna do show this ruling to a cop and then lose my right to firearms in a court of law.
You think they give a fuck what the law is. If they did we wouldnt of had the last 5 billion things the kikes gave us.
Hudson Morris
dude it was just a fucking mistake chill tf out
Robert Hughes
Okay great. Good for you. Still don't care because I'm not getting a ccw anyway.
I'm sure you aren't the first to think of this. I haven't, but maybe look and see if anyone has tried and what the outcome was. Because if they did try, then its either been struck down already, or, quietly we can all carry without a permit and no one bothered to tell anyone.
Either way...I'm still carrying without a permit. Soooooo
Lincoln Morales
>those rulings only apply to their jurisdictions
Full faith and credit, bro. The same way getting married in NJ is still a valid marriage in CA even if nothing was filed in a CA court.
Where the facts of the cases were largely similar, the court should follow established precedent.
Demanding a TRIAL BY JURY can help. Don't say "jury trial demanded". Word games matter. Read the US Constitution and your State constitution. Trial by jury is what is guaranteed. You also have to demand that the judge proceeds according to common law and not in admiralty.
Alexander Parker
Kek, the citation is a dead giveaway.