> mass-producing warships only second to US warships but at 4x the naval output
Who would win in a naval dukeout in the narrow sea strait of Taiwan? The delicate high tech low volume long supply route US navy? The mass produced conventional tech home turf advantage Chinese navy? It sounds tight specifically with the current American mentality trans admirals
US Navy no doubt. I think you have little understanding of just how advanced the US tech is. And I don't say this just as a matter of pride, for the US government seeks my demise as well. They quite literally have technology beyond our comprehension.
Robert Foster
>technology beyond our comprehension. >our Speak for yourself
Charles Green
US for sure, China doesn’t allow relationships onboard ships which hurts morale
Cameron Martin
That shit will fall apart in routine use
Easton Ward
Then please, do explain.
Blake Sanders
>memeflag >explain Kek we both know that guy is 1pbtid
James Perry
>Who would win in a naval dukeout in the narrow sea strait of Taiwan A few frogs
Dominic Russell
Are you aware of the ridiculous amount of Chinese infiltration/subversion on the US mil-complex? Even if they can't copy what you have, at least they are smart enough to develop something to counter/mitigate your advanced stuff. Also high tech stuff are more interdependent meaning it can be disrupted is one linkage is compromised
Ayden Clark
The US Submarines can mine the straits to the point you could walk across. It isn't a contest.
Wyatt Collins
boats vs boats only? (except for the helis and airplanes on em) draw the chinese went all in on mine ships the taiwan straight would become impassable very quickly
Luke Davis
>think you have little understanding of just how advanced the US tech is. It really isn’t. This is just Hollywood propaganda.
Julian Wood
Didnt china commission their THIRD carrier yesterday? And plan to pump out 3 more by the end of the year? At this rate the ching chongs will have more carriers than america has fat people scooters.
Luke Myers
From my plant time playing RTS is, China has the obvious advantage in many aspects. America has a strategic advantage but won’t be able to play to it when it’s outnumbered Unless they have perfect battlefield awareness.
Samuel Turner
You aware it's a major commercial seaway? You can't mine that until war breaks out officially, and you can't saturate it fast enough that way
Gavin Brown
US too busy fucking each others asses to fight back
Owen Brown
>Zumwalt >Powerful Those damn things have no shells for their 155mm guns and were such a fucking failure that the navy went back to ordering more Arleigh Burkes. The only thing powerful about them was the 24B in money spent for only 3 ships.
Why would the Chinks do that? You usually don't booby trap the path your invasion fleet will take. Cutting off several deep water ports to commercial shipping also seems like a bad idea.
Elijah Sanders
Taiwan has prepositioned powerful EMP devices on the small islands the occupy in the Taiwan Strait. These powerful EMP devices will disable any chinese invasion force that attempts to cross the 80 KM wide Taiwan Strait.
Juan Cook
But no one can see those stealthy Bois isn't it? It's pretty impressive if true
Julian Roberts
It was launched, still under construction. They will not have any more carriers until 004 which will be at least two years from now.
>advanced tech Yea...operated by 80IQ retards. Degrading public schools, who's concept was stolen from Prussia to create competent soldiers and mid grade officers, has consequences. You can't just "welfare program" your way into victory in war. So good luck.
Eli Brown
>US govt: Come along now dear , it's time to pay even more taxes to feed my war machine for a futile arms race >US tax payer: ...yes honey
>destroyer >cruiser So which one is it? >Zumwalt lol
Matthew Thomas
the jews probably.
Ayden Roberts
chinks classify it as a destroyer while US/NATO counts it as a cruiser. its the most heavily armed surface combatant currently in service anywhere.
Jackson Williams
US ships are designed to function. Chinese ships are designed to appear to function. China always loses because they are just larping
Benjamin Jenkins
The buildup for an invadion will be obvious and take at least 3 months probably 6. In that time the US will covertly help the Taiwanese mine their territorial waters. They will announce the straits are to be considered hazardous waters to all international shipping companies.
Minesfields will be aplenty if China acts up.
If they want to play in the blue they are beyond fucked. The USN will sink the entire surface fleet within a week and the subs within a month.
Well if the enemy doesn't get close it doesn't matter if the guns don't have ammo. It's fine i guess.
Kayden Sanders
That's the only thing they have going for them. They carry less missiles than the Burkes, unusalble guns, no torpedos. The actual effectiveness of the stealth aspects is debateable as well. The navy is actually planing on riping out the turrets and installing hardware for hypersonic missiles. But that won't be for years.
But USS Zumwalt literally don't have shells made/designed for their 155mm guns??? Do what are you saying??
Landon Evans
They stopped the rail gun funding entirely. They cut down on the hypersonic missile program. They are going all in on the SSL weapon systems which will require an overhaul in ship design.
Grayson Gray
>Who would win in a naval dukeout in the narrow sea strait of Taiwan?
the wealthy
>destroyed ships, more government spending on mil-industry contracts >dead plebs
Benjamin King
All those Chinese pieces of shit will sink the moment someone flushes a toilet They've been memeing their military advances for decades, yet no one ever uses Chinese military equipment anywhere in the world.
Easton Rodriguez
Navy fag here.
China is totally reliant on its global shipping, if a shit fight breaks out on the Chinese coast the price of food rises in China and the poor Chinese (of whom there is a third of a billion) are recruited into the Chinese army before they riot and get sent to invade SEA to get more food.
Chinese shipping is actually choked in three straits north of Australia. These straits can't be kept open by anyone, like the Suez canal they can be blocked by a single ship of a hundred other things.
The only reason China hasn't already invaded Asia is because they can't secure resources without shipping and can't secure shipping while the US has carriers
US carriers don't attack China directly, they park in open ocean and deny China's ability to feed it's billion screaming people
Jayden Perry
This holy shit yanks are so far up their own ass . We are the BEST FUCK YEAAHHH *loses every single war theyve ever been in .
No they don't. You're confusing the US and glow in the darks. These people no longer feel any allegiance to any nation, they consider themselves their own sovereign entity, and won't loft a finger if the US ever comes under attack.
Tyler Morgan
>No >Naval >Doctrine Basically rice pickers without a fucking clue what naval warfare is about.
Lucas Wilson
First real aircraft carrier was launched (=it’s no longer on a dry dock) but it’s still under construction and hasn’t done any sea trials. Commissioning has been delayed to 2024
Matthew Turner
It's not about who will win a conventional war it's about who has the balls to go thru with it. It won't matter if china is impressing US sailors and interdicting US ships if Chinese puppet Biden just takes it
Also this
Noah Lopez
You wouldn't be able to comprehend - you said so yourself Gas yourself kike
Julian Thomas
>gets conquered by frogs for the 8th time
Jose Moore
But do you realise they only have to/aim to take Taiwan? One they've taken the island of Taiwan it's a win for the CCP no matter what. Cus your leftist government won't let you literally starve out the "innocent" chink population
Isaac Miller
Quit stealing my meme kiked.com
Isaac Evans
Vessels are highly vulnerable to the newest missile technology. People have been saying this for years and it was recently demonstrated with the sinking of the Moskva (albeit with the help of US/Nato). It's likely that open naval warfare between superpowers would quickly expose this weakness.
Aiden Roberts
Never been conquered by France. England conquered parts of France several times.
Nolan Anderson
Chinks can't and won't fight.
Liam Clark
Ukraine has a navy? Your reading comprehension is sub par.
Dylan Perez
>Cus your leftist government won't let you literally starve out the "innocent" chink population The same fucking thing in Korea, Vietnam and all of the sand wars. Even the nigger president didn’t care about all of those dead middle eastern children.
Gavin Phillips
>hypersonic missile enters the chat
Carrier battle groups are obsolete they just haven’t had their moment of reckoning yet
Isaac Wright
Zumwalt has cracking issues and has been discontinued
Jace Richardson
Anybody actually believing the military creates these meme things and just conveniently says “oops we created this weapon but forgot to make ammo for it” or the black budget the F-22 has been developing for over 15 years while barely putting out a fully functional fighter jet, is an idiot... They create these story lines to send other countries on wild goose chases and giving themselves billions in endlessly increasing line items in the budget for every year outside of the already black budget the military has.