Will brits ever rejoin the EU?

Ideal situation would be for UK to not come back to EU, but instead sign some sort of freedom of movement pact

Are they gonna call this one brenter

Entain

I sincerely doubt it.

EU will shift towards a right-wing consensus, and they won't want freedom of movement with a UK dominated by non-European ethnic interests. We have almost a million migrants a year now.

Britain will be the Brazilified basket-case of a third-world nation on the edge of an increasingly assertive and identitarian EU.

It starts with the Swedish elections this September, in which the Sweden Democrats will win a majority. Eastern Europe will continue on its right-wing drift, with Italy and Spain drawn in. Accession of the Ukraine to the EU will only accelerate this process as EU institutions become more right-dominated.

When the US itself undergoes a Conservative counter-revolution (possibly following victory in a civil war), its vassal states will shift in their ideological allegiance. France will be the first major domino to fall, followed finally by Germany.

But it will be too late for Britain. The demographic and structural changes will be impossible to reverse. We now lack the spirit or the intelligence to do what is necessary, and our white population is, as always, fundamentally divided by class.

Rather than re-joining the EU as a member, we will more likely be subjected to great power competition between the EU and the United States, with our ruling elites entirely subjected to the diktats of Washington or Brussels.

And will will deserve it.

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delusional

tl;dr

yeah mate completely delusional who's going to believe that absolute muppet brilliant brexit britain bonkers utterly brilliant great british bake-off love a pint me with cheesy chips and gravy and sausage and mash and beans used to have it at school remember when stansy mooned the Mrs. Bennett absolute legend

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The future of Europe is Georgia and Moldova.
Brits aren’t European.
We make our own laws and regulations.
unelected bureaucrats in Brussels can ruin someone else’s country

This was a pretty funny read. I love British pessimism.

London makes your laws.
Only Scotland is sovereign.

Better than having a pig faced kraut or ex
Prime minister of Belgian telling us what we can do.
The EU is Germany’s play thing

Keep being slaves to the city you hate while Jocks Are Free.

Birmingham voted leave. Ethnic enclaves voted leave and actually tipped the vote in favor of the EU. Neo-Brits don't feel European. They identify either with their ethnic background or some thin neo-colonial globalist Anglo identity.

retard shit

in favor of leaving the EU'

What would change either way?
Leaving didn't change anything.

I would drag my bollocks across broken glass if it meant we could rejoin our European brethren.

brits gome back please ; _ ; we still love you

The UK had some benefits for being one of the first countries in the union that newer members don't have. If they voted leave with all the benefits, there's no way they'll rejoin without them and be happy with that

Germany will never go right, that's like telling the Nazis to come back.
It will always remain republic, but France will for sure go right in the future.

it made a lot of things immeasurably worse
actually that's a bit of an exaggeration
we can easily measure how much worse things have got

Nope, nobody will accept that.

>Germany will never go right
Germany has always been right.

>Australian

i agree but what the other user said that europe is suddenly going to embrace white ethno-nationalism is utterly ludicrous. all the evidence is to the contrary

I'm not trying to start an argument here, but how do you know things are getting worse because of Brexit? Things are getting worse everywhere

I meant right-wing aka racist freaks.

Being a freak is not a very conservative ideal.
Decency is.

Do you consider the Sweden Democrats to be an ethno-nationalist party? How about le Pen?

There's a distinction between explicit ethno-nationalist politics and policies whose outcome is effectively the same thing.

You most likely went to a school that was free, so this nuance might be a bit difficult for you to understand. Most Britoids are incredibly thick.

So imagine Europe is a big plate of curly fries. Europeans get to eat the fries. But then some non-Europeans start eating the fries as well, and then they start setting the fries on fire. So Europeans make the non-Europeans leave. They say it's about fries, although the outcome is ultimately in the Europeans ethnic interest.

Sadly many people use that "ideal" to realize their twisted white supremacy.

“White supremacy” = not wanting non-white people demographically replacing you in your own indigenous homelands lmao
The real freak is you Mohamed

The same polls said we would vote to stay at the time of the referendum. Opinion polls are to infleunce public opinion, not to measure it.

Good point finn-user.

Firstly we can compare relative rates of inflation, health service performance, etc, with other European countries.

But the correlation doesn't mean causation. We need to talk mechanisms.

So we can point out how massive supply chain disruption has raised the cost of food etc because lorries are stuck at Calais. Increased cost of exporting to and importing from our main trading partner is wreaking all kinds of economic havoc.

And we no longer have a steady stream of cheap labour from the EU, so we're importing people from Africa and India instead. The quality of these workers, particularly in the NHS, is much reduced.

Then start having more kids, it's all your fault.

>having more kids is the only option!!!
There's a tree with your name on it.

We can do that, and remove the non-white colonizers, just like Algeria removed the French

NewsJews are downright embarrassing. It's crazy how "most Brits are against Brexit" right before, and right after, the actual real vote.

Hey, we're not doing it by force so you can't call us colonizers.
Good thing Netherlands has no trees.

>So imagine Europe is a big plate of curly fries. Europeans get to eat the fries. But then some non-Europeans start eating the fries as well, and then they start setting the fries on fire. So Europeans make the non-Europeans leave. They say it's about fries, although the outcome is ultimately in the Europeans ethnic interest.
this isn't going to happen
at most there won't be a large influx of new ones, but there chances of a lot of them being kicked out lick this is pretty much 0

>Then start having more kids
This nation is hopelessly overpopulated.
20 mill should be the aim. Not more people then that.

You are colonizers tho
and will be removed in the coming century.
Europe is going into a dark place

Engage with the argument and demonstrate which particular prediction is most unlikely and why.

Problem is where would you even kick them, take our country for example, we won't take them back unless they work.
Those were the good times before WW2.
Can you please wait until I pass my genes into a white british girl?

what a bunch of bullshit

We can pay third world countries to take them
Cheaper than keeping them here

which bit and why

They're not colonisers. They didn't invade, they were brought in. Sure they are pests but remember they have no agency in this, they are only pawns. If not them, some other people would take their place. The real culprits are treacherous elites selling our nations for short term profit.

le pen lost, and in germany recently they elected a left-wing coalition government
i'll believe you when i start actually seeing real world evidence of the much-promised "right wing backlash"
so far literally nothing has happened

brexit means brexit

>True
Nafris belong in Rwanda, not Rotterdam

Ah, sweet. Schizo ramblings.

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Dolice people might go back, but do you think there would be a problem in the first place if those people were ones to negotiate with?
They would wreck hell in the streets and start terrorism groups.

The EU is happy to flood its member states with rootless, retarded foreigners because it dilutes underlying national cultures and cohesion and creates more loyalty for the superstate they aspire to be. No they don't care if your society suffers or rots, it's about consolidating power, bit by bit. But hey, in the meantime you get (((((free trade))))), a fair tradeoff for no go zones and car bombings coming to a neighborhood near you!

Yeah but we have to wait for a few more pensioners to die off

They’re colonizers and will be removed.
History has shown this.
As European living standards decline the scapegoat will be non-white immigrants

You haven't engaged with the argument
France and Germany come after the US (let's see what happens in the mid-terms)
Most important is Sweden in September

>Yeah
Sry we are full.

My nan who voted leave even though she didn't know what she was voting for just got diagnosed with cancer so it's starting.

Immigrants from non-EU countries are predominantly anti-EU.

Right, when conditions reach breaking-point ingroup identity and outgroup hatred kicks in

Germany will never go racist again, deal with it.
It's what you guys fought for in WW2.

No, we fought to defend our empire from totalitarianism then lost it to the US

Maybe the 1st generation. Their children will be exceedingly easy to poz and turn against their host nations.

Germany never stopped being racist to begin with.

Fair enough, I concede. But if it's of any consolation, at least you guys get to avoid the euro crisis with Italian denbts. It's fairly costly, and our stupid politicians already got roped into it

Usually 1st gen = Decent working people
2nd gen = Incel losers
3rd gen if it even comes to be is some islamist la creaura abomination that should have never come to existens in the first place.

And you're not engaging with the argument either. I'm not predicting an explicit ethno-nationalist surge.

Just policies that are in Europeans' ethnic interest. The shift has already begun in Denmark, of all places.

It's not a consolation. The cost of propping up Southern Italian society is a lot less than supporting and policing African and Pakistani communities in Britain.

The problem with 2nd gen is they have the get out of jail card of “I WAS BORN HERE” that they love to use when they’re blaming white ppl for their own personal failures

Your fault for defending Poland, Hitler wanted to negotiate with UK.
Show me how.
Denmark was never open minded to immigration, unlike Norway and Sweden.

It's one thing to close the borders, but it's a whole another thing to reverse the demographics. As much as I wish for that to happen, I don't think it will. Then again I don't have any solid arguments either way, that's just my gut feeling

That’s bc Norway and Sweden are huge countries in comparison to Denmark.
If things get bad they can fuck off to their second home log cabin by the lake.
My dad worked as a CEO of a company in Denmark for 5 years and a lot of the danish people actually had holiday homes in the Norway

Through policy creep. Normalising of anti-migrant policies will gradually shift the overton window and acceptability. The counter-revolution in the US will be essential to this, because European policy and culture is downstream of the hegemon.

It begins with stricter rules on entry, and deportations of illegals, then with forced repatriation of criminal, then economically unproductive first generation migrants, then revocation of citizenship, then revocation + deportation of second generation migrants. At each step the ethics and perception of the issue is shifted.

Public perceptions and beliefs are unstable and can be shifted, as long as the shift is sufficiently staged.

Yes, I sure am looking forward to African Identarian France
the best film the jews ever made was "real life"

>Scapegoat
>Implying it’s not the truth
???

i'd do it just for my freedom of movement back; i don't wanna lose it bros
>get to the age where i can finally afford to travel and have the time to do it
>lose freedom of movement

Policy creep is an interesting idea, and I do think that our current regime is slowly crumbling. That doesn't necessarily mean that whatever comes after will be "our guys", but I suppose there is a chance a least

>be me
>English grandparent born in Ulster
>EU passport

>father born in germany
>on a military base so it's void of all meaning

you can still travel without it though

This will happen. We’re already watching things start to shift in the US as times get tough and the stonks cease to be a reliable method of gaining profit. LGBT, minority acceptance, and in particular corporate HR programs are being walked back or outright axed left and right. It would seem that companies here are happy to play the subversion game while the money is good, but not willing to go out of business for it.

With the rate things are going, I’d predict gas riots in two years, bread riots in four, immigrant populations either deported or more likely just mass murdered in six, and nobody will bat an eye. Civil war inside a decade and complete collapse economically inside of two. The narratives are already on the way out though. The laws and protections for capital O ‘Others’ are fading.

i believe it's around the end of the year that it finally gets cut off, no idea what happens then, i hope we don't have to fuck around with visas and shit just to meme around europe

One element to the argument is a sufficiently committed number of people willing to do what is necessary. The Winter War didn't just happen -- people fought to make the impossible possible. Once again history is calling. Will you answer, Finnanon?

Right. This is still the calm before the storm, but the waves are already white-capped and the wind is roaring.

I hope so. Being part of france and germanys neo roman empire larp is way better than being the 51st state of america.

>accession of ukraine
im laughing

why? brexit was the greatest thing they did in this century

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I thought u can still go anywhere in schengen area for 90 days without visa? is that ending or do you mean something else?

Of a Gallician rump-state? It's entirely possible over the next few years.

Yes

It would be

i believe that's only specific to certain countries, and also incredibly shit in comparison to the freedom of being able to pack up your stuff and fuck off for as long as you like

i fucking hate this country, all i've dreamed about is leaving

>Everybody in Europe is always happier about the idea of being a Chinese colony instead of an extension of American interests

Why? I see this a lot, on several boards. I understand the globohomo bullshit is dangerous and subversive, but you already know that Americans are no more responsible for their government spewing this shit than Brits are that their government spews the same shit. They do it in spite of us, not because of us.

Europe isn’t affluent or populated enough to survive as a world power between the influence of China and America without American subsidies, so why? You think learning Mandarin is going to offer a better future for your children than helping Americans reclaim their narratives?

Just marry a foreigner
Do the English-teaching route and get citizenship somewhere else

it can still be done. of course it's not as easy but don't despair too much. if you have will then you will be able to move where you want to :)

Europe will be fine. China is staring down the demographic gun barrel. We're not American and we never will be.

Kek it's too late. Uk, france, germany are all sub 70% white once illegals are counted and whites are average age 50+.
Boomers on mobility scooters aren't gonna genocide young immigrants.

Armed forces and security services are still majority white.

Elites are mostly white. Wealth is mostly held by whites.

Deliveroo drivers won't win this war.

Meds

Nobody ever said you were American, it’s simply that the world is shifting rapidly towards a three party system in which one party - Russia - just kneecapped itself. I don’t think there’s any future where we just continue existing as separate entities. It’s a question of who owns the one world party now, and Europe has already destroyed itself in that engagement, collectively. The EU is going to have to either acquiesce to America or China, or conquer enough resources to become self-sufficient so that they cannot be pressured or held hostage to either party, which would require militarization and then for Europe to annex Ukraine and parts of Russia to solve food-negative output in the EU and the energy crisis.

Do you think your government has the will to be the 21st Century’s new Nazi Party, gassing all the immigrants and hoovering up lebensraum? Because the only alternative is eventually bending the knee to either the US or China as they consolidate the world. There is no fourth option.

Yeah the 80k british military which is pozzed from top to bottom will beat the 10 million brown young men in the UK lmao. Delusional.

why do incels think someone outside internet cares about their opinion

I don't include the UK in this summary. It really is too late for us. Like I said, we will be Brazilified and subject to European or American interests.

>you don't want to suck america's dick?
>oh that must mean you want to suck china's dick there's no other possibility
Fuck off

Russia has done the opposite of knee-capping itself. The long-term trends are all in their favour. They have accelerated the American collapse and will consolidate while you undergo your violent reorganisation. They are a net beneficiary of climate change. Their population are heatlhy, educated, and intelligent (at least in comparison to the West). I'm sure you find that hard to believe -- but you haven't lived there, and I have.

Meanwhile China is facing demographic collapse. Europe does not need to ally with either power block. If anything, we will see a convergence of Franco-German and Russian interests (which Macron has long been pushing for).

I don't understand why votes don't require 55% or more in favor of any changes to the law

>Their population are heatlhy
Really, chud?

Compared to Americans? Yes.

But you said The West. Yanks and brits are the bottom of the barrel healthwise

>Russia has done the opposite of knee-capping itself. The long-term trends are all in their favour. They have accelerated the American collapse and will consolidate while you undergo your violent reorganisation. They are a net beneficiary of climate change. Their population are heatlhy, educated, and intelligent (at least in comparison to the West). I'm sure you find that hard to believe -- but you haven't lived there, and I have.

>Meanwhile China is facing demographic collapse. Europe does not need to ally with either power block. If anything, we will see a convergence of Franco-German and Russian interests (which Macron has long been pushing for).

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Fair point. I meant Anglos.

Well we didn't want you to be an independent state, but thanks to French incompetence we're stuck with you.

Exactly. Gigachad has been put in a straight-jacket for saying (true) things that the soyacracy doesn't want people to hear.

now add +30% to uros, they're american tier, but still live in 2009 mentally

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Americanized retard

Most brits were against Brexit but the only people who vote are old retarded boomers

why would they want to turn themselves into germans?

But again, instead of just greentext-image posting, you could actually engage with the points.

Why hasn't the American collapse been accelerated by Russia sanctions? The global supply chain disruption is wreaking havoc in an already fragile economy. They're running out of formula, which they require because American women are too stupid, unhealthy, and lacking in love for their babies to breastfeed them.

Why aren't they a net beneficiary of climate change? Siberia will become a bread-basket and Russia gets warm-water ports and the Northern Sea Route, while much of the world is desertified or flooded (almost all major Russian cities are unaffected by sea level rise).

Why aren't they healthy, educated, and intelligent? Check PISA scores etc. Although I'm going more off personal experience here.

Why isn't China facing demographic collapse? Birth rates?

Why isn't Macron pushing for Franco-German-Russian axis? This is well-documented.

if the brutish british ever want to come back into the EU, it will be when the EU will defeat the UK in a war and we will destroy their monarchy and the brexiteers as we incorporate the british isles as a region in our federation

What part of that is Americanised?

>while much of the world is desertified
Yay, more territory for us.

see this

When was the last time the Italian peninsular conquered anything?

You will eat Russian wheat or starve.

Good thing our countries are very close.

I like how you got all these response desperately downplaying or insulting you for what you posted but it's because they know it's all true.

>Their population are heatlhy

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Very welll said, you do econ?
One thing thats often forgotten is our soft power influence though I think thats just boomer shite nowadays

Why are women incapable of not shoveling food into their gobs?

this, fuck the failed European project

>fragile economy
>america
>fragile

nigga most of russias economy relies on selling soon to be obsolete shit to the rest of the world. you think russias economy is unfazed by its manufacturers being completely shut off from western material? it's insane to believe America will suffer more from this war than russia already has. america still has the rest of the world to trade with, while russia now has to rely on thirdies and china to buy their shit. if anything, russia will become dependant on china's support over the coming decades. mark my words, china will gobble up more and more of russia until it is just a glorified buffer zone between europe and asia.

>soon to be obsolete shit
Least retarded german

>soon to be obsolete
Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Energy consumption must grow exponentially, because the global economy must grow exponentially (if it stops growing exponentially, it collapses). Any contribution from renewables or nuclear is swallowed up by that growth. We will keep using hydrocarbons, and Germany will keep buying Russian gas.

Yes, in the long-term I think the US will suffer more as a consequence of this war (specifically the US-led response to it) than Russia. Because the American fragility is cultural and bound up in its social dynamics, the quality of its populace, their ability to use tools and strings of symbols and engage with reality in a meaningful way. You can't legislate that into existence. So in a chaotic and dangerous global environment, Americans will suffer, while Russians will survive. And any event that adds to or exacerbates that chaos will only accelerate the process.

god i hope not

Of course, there will be extensive disruption to the Russian economy in the short-term, rather like Britian with Brexit (although in a more dramatic fashion), as existing supply chains are rerouted and domestic industries built-up to replace those already integrated, over the last three decades, into the global economy. But this deglobalisation is happening everywhere, and its impacts will be mediated by the resilience of the respective populace. The China angle is interesting, but Russia remains a nuclear power. We will most likely see increasing integration of their economies, particularly as China becomes more dependant (like the rest of the world) on Russian agriculture in thawing Siberia. I don't think this translate to Russian submission, however (and the demographic angle is a big part of that).

Because the American fragility is cultural and bound up in its social dynamics, the quality of its populace, their ability to use tools and strings of symbols and engage with reality in a meaningful way. You can't legislate that into existence. So in a chaotic and dangerous global environment, Americans will suffer, while Russians will survive. And any event that adds to or exacerbates that chaos will only accelerate the process.

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le pen just got ten times more parliament seats. it's inevitable, as long as we keep importing islamic subhumans right wing parties are going to keep growing

nytimes.com/2022/06/13/climate/russia-oil-gas-record-revenue.html

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