Does Any Forums support traditional Christian values? Recently a fag tried hanging rainbow shit in their yard and the neighbors hitched a well-deserved fit. Well? What would YOU have done in the presence of fag shit?
Traditional Christian values
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I fucking can't wait for the news to start reporting on a mass wave of "hate crime" arsons
Arson is seriously underrated
user, do you mind if I use the thread to finish my christian archive? would be around 40 posts.
Based turk
turning people of christcuckery with your schiz
This is going on my "fake hatecrime" collection.
Looks like an attention dependant faggot couldn't get enough and decided to write his own hate-hoax letter.
Argument for the christian God
Something to exist outside of space time, outside of causality, is required for something within space times causality to exist.
In here every effect needs a cause, without a cause nothing happens. Even a cause is just the effect of a previous cause kicking off the domino effect. If you go back far enough there suddenly springs an effect into existence, creation (Big Bang if you want to go into physics). This requires that there is something before the first effect, the first cause or mover. And since this one cant be caused by something else this one needs to be outside of the causality, meaning it must be eternal, must always have been there and must be independent from that which was created. The first mover, God.
This is exactly how God is described in the Bible, as eternal and independent of its creation having complete supremacy over it. So the Bible got the metaphysical and logical part about God correct, what is left is to question wether the Bible accurately predicts the will of this creator.
Now we can see how everything in creation mirrors another, and thus can be assumed to originate from God which it mirrors from the creation.
Now we can look at karmic effects to see that the law outlined in the Bible bring prosperity and thus align with that which the creator encouraged and discouraged through the karma mechanic and so can assume that this is another hint that the biblical description is correct
Since we established that the creation incorporates parts of the creator we then can look to us to learn about him (created in his image) and we see that humans like what they created, animals most of the time care for their off spring, and so we can assume that this too is something taken over from our creator.
We can just recognize the voice of our Lord in the teachings, that is recognize the truth we can see the teachings in the Bible be confirmed by every day life experience (which sadly can only work as evidence for yourself)
Furthermore there is the wrong assumption that its "either/or", yet most gods are not in contradiction with the creator, barely any claim to be the creator or source, at best claim to be the strongest. And the non creator deities are just the angels and thus are in line with the bible as well as various other stories within the Bible like Sodom and Gomorrah or the flood Aquinas too said
>In this way, therefore, between us and the highest God, it is clear that they posited four orders, namely, that of the secondary gods, that of the separate intellects, that of the heavenly souls, and that of the good or wicked demons. If all these things were true, then all these intermediate orders would be called by us “angels”, for Sacred Scripture refers to the demons themselves as angels. Footnote The souls themselves of the heavenly bodies, on the assumption that these are animated, should also be numbered among the angels, as Augustine determines in the Enchiridion
christianity doesn't have values. as a parasite, when its host does something clever or good the parasite claims ownership of what the host achieved amd says "look what christianity did!", and when the host fucks up and does something evil the parasite goes "woops, thats not real christianity, i had nothing to do with that!".
We have 2000 BC.
A world ruled by the carnal instincts of man. The norm in most societies was to act purely for the wellbeing of yourself and maybe your family. This includes, iE., that if you get a new child you cant care for, or because things arent going well due to a bad harvest or whatever, you decide to sacrifice your child to Moloch, Cronus, Baal, Quetzalcoatl or any other deity of choice.
This was completely acceptable since there are many gods, and no matter what your desires are you can just pick the deity of choice who is worshipped through the acts you like to do. Now naturally there were deities worshipped through good acts, and tribed staying away from the evil, but since giving in to you inner desires is easier than self restraint, and since those small groups didnt resort to cheating, murdering, lying and deception they usually didnt become big. This is OK since there is no ultimate authorities. The many gods are all as legit as the other and its only personal preference which deities you choose to worship, which you deem gets you the best benefits or fits your way of living best rather than adjusting your behavior.
Following the local rules was done not because you agree with it, but to avoid punishment of the active ruler and thus just served your personal well being.
Now enter God. The supreme creator and absolute authority enters the scene. Into this moraly relativistic world full of hedonism he chooses Abraham to sow his seed. With this act objective morality (which can only derive from an absolute authority that is independent of the world in a manner the Bible describes) entered the world. From this revelation and the guidance of his Christianity took over first Europe, and then through Europe the entire world. It spread this concept of objective morality across the entire globe and transformed, even though not all converted, many did decide to do the objective good for others and created a world in which charity and selflesnes is glorified.
It was no rarity that when the Christian arrived somewhere that they still sacrificed humans to their various deities. The aztecs did still cut out the hearts of virgins for Quetzalcoatl when the spanish arrived in 17th century and who knows how long they would have continued. Same for Africa and many other places. Even the ancient Canaan into which Christianity started through Abraham was surrounded by worshippers of Canaan and Baal.
Note thats its not that the other cultures did not know about God or his decree, but ignored it and rather bowed to the idols to pursue their own lifestyle
>21For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
The human sacrifice with idolworship was so common in fact that even the Israelites fell back to such customs repeatedly which always angered God heavily.
Further it ignited the peoples will to help their fellow people after pagans utterly neglected their own
according to Rodney Stark
>he [Emperor Julian] complained in a letter to the high priest of Galatia in 362 that the pagans needed to equal the virtues of Christians, for recent Christian growth was caused by their ‘moral character, even if pretended,’ and by their ‘benevolence toward strangers and care for the graves of the dead.’ In a letter to another priest, Julian wrote, ‘I think that when the poor happened to be neglected and overlooked by the priests, the impious Galileans observed this and devoted themselves to benevolence.’ And he also wrote, ‘The impious Galileans support not only their poor but ours as well, everyone can see that our people lack aid from us.’”
On the story with the fruit of knowledge:
Luciferianism is one branch of satanism, most commonly found in the form of Gnosticism. It starts with the teaching that everything is one, so is good and evil just emanations of the one, Monad, their version of God, and thus doing either is as good as the other and a way to embrace God, aka moral relativism. The serpents first lie. The ascension towards Godhood by forsaking Gods law and morality and making your own which is also depicted in their imagery, the ascension above the dualistic world.
>5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
"You will be like God". Up til then we were ruled over by God through his morality, the fruit was basically allowing us to make up our own morality and thus no longer be ruled over anymore.
Large part of luciferian/satanic philosophy is argumentation about how there is no objective good and evil, that its whatever you want, and thus you are free to do whatever you want. They perceive laws and morals, instead of advices and guidelines for a prosper life and society, as chains and limitations that keep them from doing what they really want, masking their evil merely as freedom and liberation. This is what the fruit represents. Casting off Gods morality, making our own, thus "liberating" us from Gods law and making up our own and thus rule over others, "being like God".
By doing this you end up being able to rationalize and justify any deed, since you define which is good yourself. Subsequently screwing others over in order to advance is not an issue and that gives them an edge over the rest, the good ones who wouldnt harm others for their personal gain. Subsequently the top is full of the worst scum, and the good guys are brought down, the last will be the first.
There is the repeated claim that only whites/adamites can be saved, but Christ came for all, and this should show you.
Isaiah 11, (Jesse being Davids father)
>10On that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples. The nations will seek Him,b and His place of rest will be glorious. 11On that day the Lord will extend His hand a second time to recover the remnant of His people from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush,c from Elam, from Shinar,d from Hamath, and from the islandse of the sea.
>12He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; He will collect the scattered of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
The root of Jesse gathering back the lost sheep and opening up the faith and Gods calling to all nations
Beyond that the New testament is perfectly clear on who ever does not believe is cut off from Israel, and who believes is grafted in
>16If the first part of the dough is holy, so is the whole batch; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
>17Now if some branches have been broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others to share in the nourishment of the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, remember this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
>19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20That is correct: They were broken off because of unbelief, but you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, He will certainly notg spare you either.
And I know some say the later part of the Chapter of the next verse is added later on, so ignore it for all i care, its one among many verses either way
>15And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
EVERY CREATURE, even if you want to exclude non whites from adamkind
Acts 10 too is of Peter realizing the call of all nations.
>44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who heard his message. 45All the circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were astounded that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and exalting God.
>Then Peter said, 47“Can anyone withhold the water to baptize these people? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have!” 48So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay for a few days.
The story with the samarian woman also tells of Jesus offering salvation to a foreigner.
You must understand that Samaria got displaced by Assyrians and foreign people settled there
>The inhabitants of Samaria/Samerina, who agreed [and plotted] with a king [hostile to] me, not to do service and not to bring tribute [to Ashshur] and who did battle, I fought against them with the power of the great gods, my lords. I counted as spoil 27,280 people, together with their chariots, and gods, in which they trusted. I formed a unit with 200 of [their] chariots for my royal force. I settled the rest of them in the midst of Assyria. I repopulated Samaria/Samerina more than before. I brought into it people from countries conquered by my hands. I appointed my eunuch as governor over them. And I counted them as Assyrians.
>—Nimrud Prisms, COS 2.118D, pp. 295–296
explaining why the people didnt affiliate with samarians, yet Jesus tells the woman
>13Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again. 14But whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a fount of water springing up to eternal life.”
not to mention the many references of being saved through faith as a whole, the parable of the wicked tennants, and more
>A world ruled by the carnal instincts of man. The norm in most societies was to act purely for the wellbeing of yourself and maybe your family
Not true. There would be no successful cities or nations if it were true.
>With this act objective morality (which can only derive from an absolute authority that is independent of the world in a manner the Bible describes) entered the world. From this revelation and the guidance of his Christianity took over first Europe, and then through Europe the entire world.
Again not true, morality is objective because we live in an objective reality and share the same biological existence. Rape is always rape, theft is always theft. And Europe conquered the world because they were white, it had nothing to do with christianity. You are doing exactly what I described here >as a parasite, when its host does something clever or good the parasite claims ownership of what the host achieved amd says "look what christianity did!", and when the host fucks up and does something evil the parasite goes "woops, thats not real christianity, i had nothing to do with that!".
Israel always was only groomed to spread the gospel through the earth and call onto the nations >inb4 Israel are the nations
"goyim/ethnos" in the vast majority of cases speaks of other, non israelite, nations
Levitucs 23
>23You must not follow the statutes of the nations I am driving out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.
speaking of the canaanite nations that are being driven out by Israel. Likewise in Deuteronomy 18
>9When you enter the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 1
Jeremiah 5 tells us
>15Behold, I am bringing a distant nation against you, O house of Israel,” declares the LORD. “It is an established nation, an ancient nation, a nation whose language you do not know and whose speech you do not understand.
a foreign nation being used to punish Israel
The christian cross on the other hand symbolizes the cube being broken open, freeing us from the material prison it symbolizes
In general a lot of christian symbolism goes back to the sun. In example the cross with the circle around, also called suncross likely comes from the zodiac cross upon which the sun "stands". The Halo or Nimbus you see on a lot of saints, and also other divine figures from oher mythologies originally also was just a shining light from behind the person or persons head. In case of Jesus specifically the halo often has the suncross embedded in it too.
So while kikes and muslims have saturn as their symbol of God, christianity has the sun. So dont come me with the "God is Saturn" bullshit
In case of the "Star of David" it likely is Saturn trying to immitate God (with the 33 and the sun symbolism ) to make Gods power his own
while we are at it, a lot of the symbols also seem to derive from sunworship as many symbols do. in case of the egypt one it seems to depict the sun touching the water or heaven being united with the earth while unification of polar opposites is an important theme in the occult. One believe was that magic springs into existence where 2 polar opposites meet. good and evil, the above and below, male and female. especially the unification of the last is one of the most holy events in many cultures where the magic of life happens and the first step for the existence of a new human has been made. i believe transgenderism is a perverted form of this, trying to unite male and female in one body/destroying duality
People even claim that Jesus is just a metaphore for the sun. Son/sun of God, turns water into whine like the sun giving light and energy to the grapes which turn the water into whine, walking on water like the sun when rising or setting behind the ocean standing right on the surface (look at that pic of the egyptian ankh with the other sun symbolisms) making the blind see by giving light and in general being the source of life by giving heat and energy. The 12 apostles like the 12 zodiacs. Jesus being put on a cross, while the sun (astrologically) stands on a cross marking the 4 sea sons. He is often depicted with a halo, which originally is just a shining light from behind the person (light like fr om the sun) also together with suncross in its halo giving further connections to the jesus/sun relationship. Rising from the dead on the 3rd day like the sun being at its lowest (dead) for 3 days during the winter solstice to then rise again
But there is again the small saying "as above, so below" This has many implications.
one is that what happens in the stars happens on the earth (astrology)
this furthermore means the small things are the same as the big and made of the same (fractal universe) Like electrons orbit the nucleus the planets orbit the the sun which orbits the center of the galaxy etc
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Your mind (above) influences the material world (below) and vice versa.
What happens in the heavens happens on the earth to and vice versa.
And of course as the Sun of God above, so does the Son of God below
also pic related relating back to when i mentioned that everything is from and within God , making all the charges in this world possibly kind of neural impuls
kys christcuck you sound insane
Yes I respect this
It’s offensive to their religion
Christcucks need to take a page from the mudslime handbook
>white people conquer the world
OMG CHRISTISNITY DID THAT
>christians rape millions or children
OMG THATS NOT REAL CHRISTISNITY
Faggot nigger
From Speers "inside the third Reich"
>Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide. (page 95-96)
Pic related are page 176 and 177 addressing Hitlers plan for Speer to keep building churches even during the war for which Speer was irreplacable even though Bormann tried to block him
how is rape on an objective level bad without God? Ask the rapist and he will probably approve. Then there are even people that have a fetish of being raped and would enjoy it. likewise a thief will tell you theft isnt an issue. point is whatever you use to derive morals from, if it isnt based on God itself ultimately, then it will devolve into subjectivity and thus equate to non existence