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I don't get it
fucking kek
Didn't the Ottomons blast a huge hole in the wall with a giant cannon?
have some sauce anons
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>Didn't the Ottomons blast a huge hole in the wall with a giant cannon?
no, basically the byzantines were complete retarded monkeys for their entire existence, during the last siege of constantinople there were like 4000 soldiers in total, most died from the attrition of the siege, the ottomans sent waves after waves and took the 2 first walls, then byzantines were retarded and hadnt closed the gates between the 2nd and 3d wall
fun fact: byzantine nobles refused to donate their gold to the defence of the city they were in
May 29 1453 Constantinople, capital of the Eastern Roman Empire falls to the Turks under Mehmed II; ends the Byzantine Empire.
he's bragging huh bruhs?
No I thought the Genovese mercenary leader got shot, people panicked to get him out of the fray and opened the gate. The Genovese and Greek recruits were hopeless without that guy and they went through the gate as well creating a route and an open gate for the Turkmen.
It was inevitable really. If only Julian the second had come along, and if only this Julian didn't marry a manipulative evil stripper.
>No I thought the Genovese mercenary leader got shot,
I'm fairly sure the genoese and veneitians had left a few weeks before the city fell
they were only there because they didn't want the ottomans to replace the byzantines, but they hated the byzantines even more than the ottomans
the genoese were literally officially neutral during the siege, with a genoese owned castle holding the other side of the golden horn
Giovanni Giustiniani Longo
He held one side for a very long time with inexperienced troops facing Janissaries (basically well-rewarded Slavs who were paid well) in the end.
a guard forgot to lock a door on the wall so the ottomans literally walked in
>byzantine nobles refused to donate their gold to the defence of the city they were in
this can't be real. imperium graecerum gets dicked by literal huehues from central asia + their bands of disgruntled anatolians who despise their government BECAUSE they are retards lol
Fucking jews, did they think they could win back the sandcoons because that's an excuse if I ever heard one.
Rofl, cope mudslime.
The Empire is coming back.
Sure these 10 million dying Greeks will take Istanbul back
Only weak men can be swayed by anything of that like to do anything but bust a nut or whatever.
>Janissaries (basically well-rewarded Slavs who were paid well)
janissaries were child slaves/life long soldiers, they werent just paid well, they were brainwashed from birth to serve the sultan
>this can't be real.
it is
and so is the fact that the emperor didn't even force them to hand it over, they were like "reeeee my gold" and the emperor was like "ok it's your gold I won't touch it"
the ottomans killed almost everyone in the city and looted all the gold in it in the end, the entire history of byzantium is complete clown world, that event wasnt an exception to the ridiculous brain melting stupid stuff they did all the time, their empire fell for a reason, they were completely incompetent
this is a good channel and they have a good video on the siege:
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it's almost 1 hour long but they went to great lengths to be accurate and 1 hour for the siege of constantinople is about as little time as you can spend to learn this much
Imagine if they weren't led by retards and allowed to snowball off of spoiled retard nigger illegitimate heirs of the Roman empire?
Do euros not realize their job has always been harder than everyone else because loids and groids are too easy to control?
Jive turkey
>janissaries were child slaves/life long soldiers, they werent just paid well, they were brainwashed from birth to serve the sultan
That as well, yes.
>He held one side for a very long time with inexperienced troops facing Janissaries
they fell because the byzantine side ran out of soldiers
that's literally it, when it fell I think there were less than 1000 defenders, the byzantines didn't even have enough men to put on every wall, they had like 1 guy per 100 meter
if the byzantines had been retarded and just gotten a few thousand men from anywhere they would have held, or at least held for a few more years in the siege, but they didn't, maybe they were just overconfident because constantinople had never been succesfully sieged, but whatever the case they didn't even make use of the ressources they had, ran out of defenders, and got swarmed by the ottomans
none of the memes the ottomans tried had any effect, their big cannons didn't do much, putting ships over land to siege it from all sides didn't do much, fake attacks didn't do much, in the end they just took casualties on both sides until the byzantines didn't have enough men left to hold the city
I really hope Elon posts here so I can be that much closer to calling him a faggot. I know I could do that on Twitter right nlw but who in the right mind uses social media?
Siege cannon only really works against 1 good wall, then, with goid design, the troops forced to enter are put to boiling water and oil and shit and also shot between the walls. The ottomans never really won without a 1 to 3 kda.
Minorities never really run out of people. Why train 5 men well when you can just have like 50?
>Imagine if they weren't led by retards and allowed to snowball off of spoiled retard nigger illegitimate heirs of the Roman empire?
the byzantine empire never got it's land by itself
it started big, it inherited all it land, the closer thing to conquest they ever did was that one time justinian conquered a few roman provinces, but they lost them back imediately
and the claim they are rightful heirs of the roman empire is completely insane because the byzantine elites came to power through usurpation and civil war, there hadn't been any rightful rule in the roman empire since hundreds of years anyways, byzantines are just the last guy in date to win a roman civil war and usurp the power in rome, then they lost half the empire, then they slowly lost the other half, and they didn't even fight hard in their last days
oh yes its istanbul now dont you forget
I-S-T-A-N-B-U-L
and you christcucks cant do anything about it LMAO
>Minorities never really run out of people. Why train 5 men well when you can just have like 50?
basically, but ottomans were a lot smarter, they enslaved everyone they could in the balkans, while the byzantine leader didn't even go out of his way to find soldiers, and didn't use his gigantic wealth in gold to pay mercenaries either
4cuck is social media.
I'm not saying the Greeks HAD to carry but like they really are retarded at war. You're supposed to keep the military weak so they don't overtake you, the literate ruler of them. All of their money for taxes and everyone acts like they have a semblance of natural gifts or real intellect because they leveled speechcraft to like 60. People don't really keep the weak swine aristocrats in their place because they're the link to the tax collectors.
>their big cannons didn't do much
Yeah that was also partly due to Giovanni, he first built cushions, but they worked only once, of course. After that it was just constant day and night repairs. I also believe he used earthworks.
Anyways, the Basileus depended on three things to save him.
1. God
2. His own brothers from the Peloponnese who would bring reinforcements.
3. The pope. He actually converted to catholicism to get help from the pope. Pope didn't come though.
hey it's me elon, that actually hurts my autist feelings
You can apply this to immigration or espionage or anything really, being a cuck, and its valid every single time when you use it.
coincidentally that said door happened to be in the jewish district of the city.
But just look at the responses to that tweet and see how everyone has come together, and then read the COPE from T*RKS
>Anyways, the Basileus depended on three things to save him.
>1. God
>2. His own brothers from the Peloponnese who would bring reinforcements.
>3. The pope. He actually converted to catholicism to get help from the pope. Pope didn't come though.
none of that is relevant since he didn't do anything actually useful
>didn't sieze the gold of the rich constaninople elites
>didnt use it to get a ton of mercenaries from all over europe
>didn't fight the ottomans before that
>let the ottomans conquer them from the inside for decades without doing anything about it
>literally allied with the ottomans as they were being conquered by them
>never was on the offensive, all they ever did was react or be passive
>never tried to reclaim their lost land by spending a bunch on a big army and launching a military campaign
and that's not even mentionning the ottomans were here in the first place because they were open border schizos who had let in tons of turkic migrants, and that's without mentionning their entire empire was funded on bringing migrants from the middle east to anatolia, greece and the balkans
Hungary beat the ottomans after having taken shit advice from petty inbred shitstains, and having everyone ignore a threat that would easily destroy them immediately after. France was the ottoman Empire of Europe, always have been and will be. Basically churchsucklers are just like modern day state beneficiaries; weak, stupid, selfish, lack of foresight, the niggers of people(euros).
Basically Arabs are the peak minority, besides asians at math shich they are partly.