Goodbye to M855

>unconditional support of your government
have you ever seen a post made by an american in your life? the only burgers who say nice things about the feds are feds, and even they hate the feds when they're off the clock

are you retarded?
TTAG is the best source for 2A issues.

>Even then on what grounds can he tell a manufacturer they can't conduct business?
The government kinda owns Lake City.

>Even then on what grounds can he tell a manufacturer they can't conduct business?
He probably can't, and me thinks this is fear mongering, and even if ge tried I also suspect it would be little more than threats they can't act on and hope the bluff works

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Why are you samefagging?

Are you ok retard?

I’m not an expert, but it sounds like Winchester operates the facility which is owned by the US MIL. Winchester was allowed to use the machine downtime to make commercial product in-between military production, and it sounds like that’s off the table now. It isn’t “you can’t make ammo for the public” but rather “you can’t use our equipment to make ammo for your own sale”

No browns will ever vote in significant numbers for anything but handouts and the boot. Same goes for women, blacks, and the lgbtq. There isnt any amount of damage that can be done to them or even mentally capable of tacking it back to the administration theyre forever bonded to. A lot of new /k/ voted for this.

Fuck that retarded old man and his weak abortion of a presidency

Post guns, sugar, or running water

The only ones stupid enough to fall for red pill memes and take it seriously are far right wing nut jobs

Fuck Russia, lol. That nation has no component to it that I would ever conceivably find beneficial to myself, or desirable to live within. It's a lot of crap, lead by absolute, just like Joe Biden. I can easily dislike all of them, because they're all terrible, fuck 'em.

Fuck the Republicans who are going to run the only person in the country who would lose to him in a presidential election
They could run a dog against Biden and win, but they're going with Zion Don again

> 30% of 5.56 on the market was Lake City
> Who makes ammo for the DoD
> Who doesn't use m855 or m193
Citation always needed, but especially now

Are you actually saying this administration isn't souring people's view of government?

It sounds like bullshit. M855 hasn't been standard for years now, nevermind M193. This sounds like boomer fearmongering so they can sell you M855 at $1.00/rnd.

pretty funny /k/ cheers the biden admin on despite them doing everything they can to eliminate guns, almost like this place is fucking overrun with feds and intelligence agents

Absolute fake news. What's wrong with you people? What makes you think the President has the power to tell a private company to stop selling products to the buying public?

Who pushes this shit? "Source", "taking steps"? Grifters trying ONCE AGAIN to spark panic buying of ammo? How MANY times do we have to go through this song and dance?

hey retard the gov owns the factory

Nah you dont need the feds when your 19, a fat faggot with mental illness and chicks politics. They cant reconcile the immolating poltitics theyre told to have. When they age out of being bitch made itll be too far gone.

Reminder that the US government is already at war with its people. You are under siege. I hope you're preparing.

who the hell on /k/ is cheering for gun control?

The vatniks

>it sounds like Winchester operates the facility
For this to be the case, as in 30% of 5.56 ammo sold in the US was made in that plant, that would mean every single round of Winchester white box + Hornady Frontier was coming out of there.

Because VSTO (Federal, Speer, and Remington ammo), Fiocchi, Hornady, and the remaining international shit like Wolf or PMC is easily making up the remaining 70%.

Ah, the hohol shill finally chimes in. ywnbaw faggot

Fucking hell! Can't you vatniks shut up about Ukraine for just ten fucking minutes?!
What are they doing to fuck up your drunk, rape-loving stormtroopers this time that's making you dickheads lash out like this?

Dems would just rig the election again, doesn't matter who the faggots in the gop select.

And they have a contract with Winchester that points out exactly what goes on in that factory. They don't get to alter the terms unless the government itself is going to be buying that ammo. This is fake news and is completely unsourced. Winchester has not put out any news, nor has there been a second source of this claim. It's most likely bullshit.

confirmed for not having set foot in a gun store since 2020. most stores are carrying almost exclusively 5.56/.223 and other nato chambering, almost no wyldecat cartridges left because everyone is too busy shitting out .223

They're going to print another trillion dollars to buy all the ammo

They don't need to. The second this gets out, real or fake, boomerniggers will buy it all up in a heartbeat so they can sit inside a bunker made of ammo cans.

I had to sell me Lee Enfield because I couldn't feed it

You're on the wrong side of history bud.

oh no's, now Winchester will will need to re-stamp the cases to commercial winchester or take apart the rounds to sell off as reloading components. Nothing burger, noguns lose again.

Unlikely, seeing as how they keep jacking up interest rates.

“I know wut I got.”
>What he had was lead poisoning.

You don't know what that phrase means, and have no idea how contracts work. If Winchester is doing something at that plant, it's because they have it in writing that they can do it, not just by the grace of whatever administration is in power. Maybe the next contract renewal won't have that clause. I find that unlikely.

Would explain how a lot of them act, that's for sure.
Working at a gun store makes you awfully convinced that a majority of boomers have undiagnosed high-functioning autism.

yeah haha its a nothingburger just keep doing nothing and things will get better lol lmao

Not reloading your own 303. NGMI

The reason why the US always seems to be running short on (cheap) ammo is because manufacturers simply don't want to invest into new factories and the securing the inputs like copper. They much rather cruise on high sales. They don't want to do capital-heavy investments into new capacity because they fear that current demand is transitory. They understand all the gun and ammo buying is based on fear of gun control and panic based on short supply.

>They don't want to do capital-heavy investments into new capacity because they fear that current demand is transitory.
and they would be right. every business i know is just holding steady especially with recession on the horizon. no one is looking to expand right now.

The mil surplus was what was keeping profitability down. Once prices go up again someone will step in to fill the demand. That is until the next administration revokes this order because the gov needs the money. Either way we still get our ammo and it teaches the newfags the importance of having a 10 year supply of ammo on hand at all times.

I voted Biden and I'm starting to regret it. Trump would have done the same thing I guess so it doesn't really matter right?

Texas says otherwise, blackpilled doomcuck.

So does Florida. Cubans hate leftism for a reason--they've seen how shitty it is.

t. dating a first generation Cuban immigrant.

42% of cuban americans, who fled a communist dictatorship, still vote for the budding U.S communists. Thats a grim statistic. You two faggots need to grow the fuck up.

There's been a ton of reddit tourists lately.

I'd like to see a source for that statistic.

Look it up you hopefully soon to be dead redditor

I've never posted on reddit, pal. I just find your claim shocking based on my experience with Cuban immigrants.

I hate 99% of the things biden does. But I want to double US support for Ukraine just so more Russians die

But I repeat myself

>does something in America
>gets shot because he’s not American enough
Eh

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based

>I hate the guy spending our tax dollars on a foreign war, but I want him to keep spending money anyways. I want it to be on something that won't directly impact my daily life one bit

Based. Zoggies have no rebuttal, just look at those moronic replies holy shit LMAO

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Nigger, fuck Russians, fuck Ukrainians and fuck the chinks.

>lake city ammo

absolute garbage rejected/defect ammo, at least the civilian stuff is, you can google and find horror stories from federal,winchester made lake city, it's garbage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Russia

is right.
cope
harder cope
giga cope
you wont do anything about your rights being taken, no one ever fucking does.
>OH JUST WAIT TILL THE ATF COMES TO MY DOOR, ILL SURE SHOW THEM HEHEHEHE
no you wont, you wont do a fucking thing. you are all cowards living as serfs to those that are slowly taking your rights, be it by private industry or executive decree. you are all pathetic and deserve everything coming to you. everything you say and do are as empty as your souls, you are NPC's larping at being aware while you wait for a hero to do it all for you. news flash, there are no heroes left in man.
inb4
>fedboi/glowie
cowards like you deserve everything you are getting, you can rage/cope/seethe all you want but you know its true.

Did you read the post I replied to? Are the Russians coming to take my guns or is it my own government?

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>I hate the guy fucking up life in America, but I want him to continue fucking up life in Russia.
Shockingly, some people are able to have two different thoughts in their mind at once.
I know I know. It's a challenge for an obvious vatnik to have anything on his mind beyond his need to get another hit of krokodil, but this is how things often are in the west.

Not a single fucking American would pair that picture with that statement. You're glowing like the fucking sun, Ivan.

Why support a nation with a government that don't even allow their citizens to own a tenth of what the average US citizen gets to buy off the shelf.

Literally both?

Look at how Peleton got fucked in this regard. They bet on an unending pandemic and workout-from-home being the new normal, and are stuck with a $400 million factory that they're gonna auction off for pennies on the dollar as demand continues to plummet. Unfortunately the ammo companies are being very smart by simply making money hand over fist running at capacity 24/7.

Literal fear mongering and misinformation. Very cool, TTAG, thank you.

>Winchester was allowed to use the machine downtime to make commercial product in-between military production,
No, but they are allowed to "dispose" of quality control rejected ammo, it just seems they are making a policy that it cant be sold anymore.

Wonderful news! The Second Amendment only protects the rights of police, the military, and private security. Mall ninjas and wannabe confederates have no right to deadly weapons.
>but I want to overthrow the government!
Die in jail.

Federal xm193 has Lake city headstamps

>Winchester, which operates the US Army’s Lake City ammunition plant, has been informed that it may no longer sell M855 and SS109 ammunition produced in excess of the military’s needs on the civilian market.

man. what the fuck.

Let me ask again. Is it the (((American))) government coming for my guns or is it Russia? Answer.

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what? kill yourself with this retarded bait

Stop shooting up schools and they'll stop trying to take your guns away.
You sick incel freaks are the reason for this and nothing else. Gun ownership is a right. But rights come with responsibilities and that includes not murdering classrooms full of kids.
I vote straight ticket GOP and I fully support mandatory may-issue, federal red flag laws, magazine limits and gun safety laws. None of them will have any impact on how I enjoy and use my guns but they will help stop this nonsense.
And you have only yourselves to blame.

Russia's threatening to nuke anyone they don't like whenever they don't get their way.
"Destroying global civilization" is a fair step above "Biden's an asshole with a finite amount of time in office/on earth"

you are responding to a bot. when you see weird responses to stuff like that or oddly phrased wording, just sage it.

cope harder americoward, you WILL lose your guns and you WILL comply. now stop fighting online and go be a good obedient bootlicking bitch to your nobles that hate you.

I still own my firearms and plenty of my family members and friends still do and I live in the shitty state of CA. None have taken our firearms.
Not for the lack of trying, the retarded politicians are trying their damnest to infringe the 2A.
Where as the retarded drunken slavs can't own shit and rarely do they look into what is the legal process of owning a shitty shotgun to start off with their "gun ownership rights". Fuck off retarded slav cocksucker.

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Kill yourself nigger. No one here is doing that shit nor advocates for it. The fed on the other hand have enticed many mentally ill faggots to do the deed though.

>Not for the lack of trying
thanks for finally answering his question, though I doubt you are aware that you did.

The Ukrainians you support are Slavs too retard

Oooo, looks like I touched a nerve. Scared that the FSB won't pay you your daily ration of cheetos because the Americans aren't broken in the face of Russkie chessmastery?

So who is coming for my guns exactly?

jam your face into a cheese grater

I never have supported those corrupt retards. You mistake my nation's governments action as my own opinion and desire.
I did you nigger retard, that is why I posted that. Where as the Russians you love to support aren't going to support private ownership of firearms on par with even the shittiest US states.

dont be mean to the american, he does not understand that ukranians now have more firepower than his entire country.

fuck you, fuck joe biden, and fuck every single russian that ever existed

>Mfw I have about 5000 M855 rounds and another ~3000 projectiles
Yeah

Nigger be a man and post your deets. Even if it’s just a house in the same neighborhood I’ll figure out which IP it is

>verba non acta
This sums up the american right these days. you wont do anything because you cant muster up the strength to fight for a real cause that doesnt involve murdering innocents overseas for the profits of those you buy your precious small arms and ammo from.

The FSB already got your balls, why would they want your guns?

54058654 (no yous)
Whoa two countries at war and they must arm their personnels to defend their homeland, like every damn country would do if they are being invaded.
Fuck both retarded nigger slavs they all deserve what they get for being retarded.

Not him but I wouldn’t hesitate to put a couple in your chest, considering the last time I didn’t have a firearm I got shot

>innocents
>Russian invaders
Oh man. You orcs can't be this deluded.

>they're going with Zion Don again
Nope, it's gonna be Romney. Again. With McCains wife or sister or whatever the fuck she is as his running mate.

>What makes you think the President has the power to tell a private company to stop selling products to the buying public?
Biden ordered the end of cheap steel ammo months ago lol

I would love to go to war with you and your arrogant country if only to never see you post again

american history must only be the last 2 years or so, I did not mean to imply Ukraine if that is what I did, I meant Iraq and Afghanistan, you know the countries that men actively signed to fight after your 9/11. you know, the wars that american actively engaged in? it is not like you have boots in ukraine now, is it? I understand memory is not so good for american now, thank you.

>They don't get to alter the terms
That's not an alteration of the terms. It's always been government discretion to sell contract overruns. Have you EVER read a manufacturing agreement before?

>1.75%
These are some of the lowest rates in our history.

Ammo production hasn't expanded since the 1950s.

>10 year supply of ammo on hand at all times.
This shortage will continue long past 10 years bud.

I don't own a 5.56 so not my problem

let me also remind you that this was one of the countries that your king objectively caused13 of your fellow cowards die in because of his incompetence. did anything happen then? of course not, because verba non acta. america is wonderful place

I'm pulling this out of my ass but around 70% of ammo manufacturers are owned by the government.

>fears the (you)
what did he mean by this?
had your country not caused the 2014 'revolution' where your own ambassador was discussing who they want to keep in office when it was over then maybe there would not be a war?

Never Trumpers are to blame for this.

>telling winchester they need to just eat the cost of surplus production
lol
lmao, even

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You go none because you are a troll faggot.
Again you niggers think what my government does is what me an individual, want them to do. You are damn retarded to think any nation government will do what their citizen wants minority or majority voter bases.

with how incompetent your king is, you just might invade another country to try to stay in power for 2024.

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Refute it then retard

I hold no beliefs that you want your government to do what it does to you, I only say that you are and will do nothing about it because you are coward with the hopes a hero comes to save you. you will comply, you will surrender and you will obey because your motto is verba non acta, words not actions. in case you do not understand I translate it for you, I am nice this way yes?.

>produced in excess
So they'll just produce more specifically for the civilian market. And non-US mfgs will also be available. Don't keep panic buying because of scare tactics. You dumb fags are why ammo still costs what it does. Biden and the dems don't want to restrict firearms any more than they have to to win votes, they are just as hand-in-glove with arms manufacturers as anyone

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I ain't gonna do domestic terrorism because of some retard shitskin from an irrelevant country.
Let me know when the US has collapsed and the citizens have surrendered.

>Let me know when the US has collapsed and the citizens have surrendered.
this part made me laugh.
>domestic terrorism
Not terrorism needed but mass violence like your nigger riots. mass violence works. your BLM gods have proved that through your states open and active promotion of mostly peaceful riots. Billions in damages across the country and what is the result? fewer boots for you to lick, this is a positive though you do not see it that way, and many more criminals get to go free because of your corrupt soros DA's. but you may continue coping that you will do something when society falls as if it did not during the riots.

you're fucking retarded. I doubt you even know a black guy, let alone a woman.

Noooo nobody likes that clown

Pretty much
Instead of a plain brown paper carton it'll be a glossy carton with a stupid design on it and the bullet will remain the same and will continue to be produced in the exact same, if not higher, quantities

Racism isn't as cool as you think it is.

Right, as opposed to the professional RINOs/uniparty/deep state moralfags who don’t like Trump and help rig elections or roll over to Dems every chance they get.

I don't care what fantasy world you live in, I hope you die

54058958
Here's the thing faggot retard, I'm not in any illusion that I am the sole person to fix this nation's government and not even my local government. I'm not here to save anything but myself. Nor do I expect or want a sole hero to swoop in to do something, you type like someone from reddit who's fixated on comic book or kikeywood superhero stories.
This is tough for you to grasp, vast majority of Americans are individualistic and have always been, and we have no sole unified bugmen mentality like your slave Russians butt-buddies or chink insectoids.
Continue to post your retarded glow nigger post.

Lol this

best cope I hear in a while
were this true, his endorsement would be death sentence but look here ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump, so many primary wins for trump with few losses

POTATUS at it again. They'll just split the line off and not overproduce for the military. M855 is literal trash anyway.

lol are you still afraid of (you)
dumb kike

>I'm not here to save anything but myself.
this is funny, you are funny. this is also why your country will fall. the people who value individualism will always lose to those that value collectivism and conformity. by your own admission you will not stand up for another individualist because you do not want to save anyone but your self. Why do you think your rights are being taken by the group that sticks together no matter what? Because you individualists are by nature a weak people that will not fight for eachother.
>Nor do I expect or want a sole hero to swoop in to do something, you type like someone from reddit who's fixated on comic book or kikeywood superhero stories.
this is very nice cope, you have been brought to believe a hero is someone that is from the movies, a hero is someone that can lead. But you do not want to be lead, because you are an individual yet you still follow and lick the boots of those that oppress you.
he is also right, you still fear the (you)

you will sit there hoping and coping for something that will not happen, because you know what I say is true

>$5+ dollar gallon gas
>record inflation
>soaring housing prices
>soaring food prices
>interest rates going up
>stock market shitting the bed
>stagflation on the horizon
But yet somehow selling contract overrun ammo to civilians is a serious problem.
Get fucked Dementia Joe (and those who voted for you).

>boomer fearmongering so they can sell you M855 at $1.00/rnd
well, that's a given.

>mag limits
damn you are a cuck

noguns larping faggot confirmed

or he is baiting the (you) that you so openly provide

>I bet no Russian ever came for your guns.
>just forget about when soviet russia invaded its' neighbors and sentenced people to death for owning guns and now they're doing the same thing under the flag of russian federation, you silly goyim!!
lol,
lmao even

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>look bro, just support jewish bolsheviks in Europe
>they're not the ones taking away your guns, goyim
>so what they hate your guts and have been sponsoring BLM/faggots/gun control via their agents in your country
>you can't hate them because they're far away

traitor before an enemy, jimbo. dont get too far ahead of yourself there.

>traitor before an enemy
>do nothing about biden and demonrats
>support russia invading other countries
Any Forums has been so buck broken I have no words to describe it

I swear to God, vatniks are the dumbest shits on earth. Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin is obsessed with controlling historical invasion routes. His geopolitical worldview has not moved past the 19th century.
>Who's trying to invade Russia?
>Nobody?
>Why?
>Nukes.

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I forgot to mention, after Ukraine, his bullshit plans require him to get into a shooting war with NATO to control more of those invasion routes.

the rosenbergs deserved far, far worse than death
we let them off fucking easy

Indeed. Honestly, I'll take it a step farther: We should have pivoted to war with the soviets as soon as we defeated Germany. Nuclear war.

>soviet
>russia
You have to go back.

Neck yourself. To pretend the Soviet Union doesn't cast a long shadow over the russian federation is ridiculous and ignores the shit their leaders say out loud.

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>A person with knowledge of the situation tells us that, more than just “considering” the move

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>you vill buy ze israeli ammo and you vill like it!

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Nobody is cheering Biden on, he's useless, we're cheering the NATO rebuilt by Trump on.

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This is the general /k/onsensus.

Fuck off Armatard. Vatniks are seething about this because it means that ammo goes where it is needed to fight Russia. OP is a vatnigger.

you must be a leaf, how one more (you) on me, you dominated this thread

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He is pulling it from his ass based on old, Obama era numbers, completely ignoring the rise of new gen repubs (Trump-Desantis types) that are attracting latinos as well as the downfall of the cuckhold neocons.

Both FL and TX have been secured for republicans thanks to the present latinos rebelling and leaving the democrat plantation. In TX because guess what, they dont like illegal pacos moving in on their turf to sell drugs and demand gibs and in FL there are cubans who recognize the woketard democrats for what they really are.

fuck the mods