Wish they'd quit pruning and archiving threads that are legitimately attempting to generate discussions about politics and theory.
It's almost like the only content allowed here is closet faggotry, worshipping cuntservative zogbots, or smoothbrain retard posts about muh democrats
the post about marx that was just archived was great. I wonder "cui bono" from preventing the avg Any Forums user from learning that (((capitalism))) is just another name for international jewry?
say what you will about Marx, at least he wasn't a dick sucking faggot liberal capitalist like republicans, or a white hating pussy ass bitch like democrats
kudos to the user that posted the following marx quote:
>Wish they'd quit pruning and archiving threads that are legitimately attempting to generate discussions about politics and theory. >It's almost like the only content allowed here is closet faggotry, worshipping cuntservative zogbots, or smoothbrain retard posts about muh democrats thread has been prunned or deleted in 3, 2 1...
Easton Rivera
It's funny how the Lasalle dude's only historical legacy is being called a nigger by Karl Marx.
Luke Cook
>//Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every Pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets. […] the real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loanmongering mysteries by concentrating their energies upon the barter trade in securities… Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. […] Thus do these loans, which are a curse to the people, a ruin to the holders, and a danger to the governments, become a blessing to the houses of the children of Judah. This Jew organization of loan-mongers is as dangerous to the people as the aristocratic organization of landowners… The fortunes amassed by these loan-mongers are immense, but the wrongs and sufferings thus entailed on the people and the encouragement thus afforded to their oppressors still remain to be told. […] The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple, and that the moneychangers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization.//
marx was literally 1000% more based than any zionist faggot liberals like trump, desantis, putin, et al
marx would not have supported hitler, though, because adolf gave the (((capitalist))) their greatest advantage: the ability to cry about muh 6 gorillion for a century, long enough to completely usurp the global economy & systems of governance
marx hated kikes, despite being a man born into the jewish cult. i respect him more than anti-communist faggots like pinochet, or liberal kike worshippers like trump
>marx would not have supported hitler not necessarily true. one of the few people left over from Marx's time Werner Sombart supported the NSDAP. Marx would have looked really critically at how the NSDAP empowered Krupp, but Hitler had no choice. The bourgeoisie powers wanted war with him.
Benjamin Allen
that's a good point!
as far as I know, the NSDAP is the only regime to actually have the balls to arrest, prosecute, and jail a rothschilde. Until the NSDAP era, outside of the polemics of a few bygone idealist thinkers like engels, bakunin, rosseau, etc., nobody in the world had even approached Marx's power level when it came to naming the jew.
Marx and Nazi's would have been sympatico on more issues than either of them would have been with purported "marxists" and collectivists like Lenin, Stalin, etc.
Marx kind of worshipped the working class, and regarded them as superior and more important to human progress than the state; soviets and the 20th century left saw them as ancillary figures to progress, that only exist to enlarge the domain of the state.
Ayden Brown
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut, fuck commies, fuck the fed Fuck international Jews
Tyler Edwards
What is most clear to me is Marx would have opposed the Bolshevik coup in Russia. Here is an article from Mussolini, former leader of the Socialist Party of Italy:
The developed and conscious proletariat is shouting "Long live Lenin!", thinking that they are shouting "Long live socialism!". They do not realize that they are actually crying "Down with socialism!". The false shepherds are deceiving the masses, who are ready to swear by and die for the new and distant ideals, believing that what has been established in Russia is socialism. This is a colossal lie! The government which has been established in Russia is only a fraction of the socialist party. The proletariat in Russia is labouring just as before, and they are being exploited just as before... We understand perfectly well that some writers coming from bourgeois circles have sympathy for Communism. In Russia there is a State, a Government, an order, a bureaucracy, a police force, militarism and hierarchies. But socialism is not to be found. There is not even the beginnings of socialism; there is nothing resembling a socialist regime. Leninism is the perfect negation of socialism. It is the government of a new caste of politicians. That is why it is very difficult to find apologists of Leninism among the talking heads of Russian and Western socialism. The most violent reactions against Leninism did not come from the bourgeois, but from the very men who fought and suffered for the redemption of the working masses. These men are Plekhanov, the master of the Russian Marxists, and Kropotkin, the apostle of anarchy.
Carter Taylor
We reaffirm that Leninism has nothing to do with socialism, yet the official Italian socialists, with threatening shouts, are calling for aid to save Russia. But Russia does not need to be saved, because it is in no danger whatsoever. If Petrograd (St. Petersburg) does not fall, if Denikin marks time, it is because the great Jewish bankers of London and New York so desire, linked up as they are by racial ties with the Jews who, in Moscow as in Budapest are taking revenge on the Aryan race which has condemned them to dispersion for so many centuries. In Russia 80% of the Soviet leaders are Jews. In Budapest 17 out of the 22 people's commissars are Jews. Might it not be that Bolshevism is the vendetta of Jewry against Christianity? It is a subject certainly worth pondering. It is entirely possible that Bolshevism will drown in the blood of a pogrom of catastrophic proportions. World finance is in the hands of the Jews. Whoever possesses the nations banks controls their politics. Behind the puppets of Paris stand the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Schiffs, the Guggenheims, who are of the same blood as the masters of St. Petersburg and Budapest. Race does not betray race. Bolshevism is defended by international plutocracy. That is the essential truth. International plutocracy, dominated and controlled by the Jews, has a supreme interest in hastening all of Russian life through its process of molecular disintegration to the point of paroxysm. A paralyzed Russia, disorganized and hungry, will tomorrow be the place where the bourgeoisie—yes the bourgeoisie, my dear proletarians—will celebrate its spectacular abundance. The kings of gold believe that Bolshevism must live now, to better prepare the ground for the new business of capitalism. American capitalism has already obtained a great "concession" in Russia. But there are still mines, springs, lands, workshops, which are waiting to be exploited by international capitalism.
Parker Foster
The fate of Leninism does not depend on the proletariat of Russia or of France, much less that of Italy. Leninism will live for as long as the kings of finance so desire; it will die when the same kings of finance decide to kill it. The anti-Bolshevik armies, which from time to time are affected by a mysterious paralysis, will become simply overwhelming at a given time which will be chosen by the kings of finance. The Jews of the Soviets precede the Jews of the banks. The fate of St. Petersburg is not determined on the icy steppes of Finland, but in the banks of London, New York and Tokyo.
To state that the international bourgeoisie now wants to destroy the Soviet Regime is to state a gross lie. If, tomorrow, the plutocratic bourgeoisie decides to destroy it, they will have no difficulty whatsoever because their "accomplices", the Leninists, already sit and work for them in the Kremlin.
Colton Green
This was from a 1919 article in Mussolini's Newspaper after he kicked himself out of the PSI. Who were reactionary, in his view.
We can certainly make a case against Mussolini's treatment of the Italian proletariat, whom Mussolini claimed to be protector of.
Mussolini, in the end was executed by firing squad but what is interesting he was executed along with Niccolo Bombacci, one of the founders of Italian Communist Party. His now famous last words being 'Long Live Mussolini! Long live socialism!'
No true Italian, whatever his political faith, should despair of the future. The resources of our people are immense. If we are able to find a common ground, we will regain our strength before any victor. For this common ground, I would give my life even now, willingly, so long as it is truly marked with real Italian spirit. After defeat, I will be furiously covered by spit, but later I will be cleansed with veneration. Then I will smile, because my people will be at peace with themselves.
The worker who fulfills his social duty with no other hope than a piece of bread and the health of his family repeats, on a daily basis, an act of heroism. Labourers are infinitely superior to all false prophets who pretend to represent them. These false prophets have an easy time of it due to the insensitivity of those who have the sacrosanct duty of taking care of labourers. It is for this reason that I was, and am, a socialist.
The accusation of inconsistency is without foundation. My behaviour has always been consistent in the sense of looking to the substance, not the appearance of things. I have adapted myself, socialistically, to reality. As the natural development of society proved more and more of Marx's predictions to be wrong, true socialism retreated from the possible to the probable. The only feasible socialism that can be truly implemented is Corporativism—a merging point, a place of equilibrium and justice, with respect for collective interests.
The art of politics is very difficult, amongst the most difficult, because it works on matter that cannot be grasped, that wobbles and is more uncertain. Politics works on the spirit of men, which is much more difficult to define because it is subject to change. Most changeable of all is the spirit of Italians. When I am gone, I am sure that historians and psychologists will ask themselves how a single man was able to successfully lead a people like the Italian people. If I had accomplished nothing else, this single work of art would have been sufficient to prevent me from being forgotten. Others have been able to dominate with iron fists, not with consensus and agreement as I managed. My dictatorship was much milder than many democracies that are run by plutocracies. Fascism lost more men than its adversaries, and on 25th of July there were no more than thirty persons in exile.
When it is written that we are the white guard for the bourgeoisie, it is the vilest of lies. I defended, and I state this with full conviction, workers' progress. Amongst the principal causes for the fall of Fascism I blame the deaf and merciless fight of certain financial and industrial groups who, in their mad egoism, feared and hated Fascism as the worst enemy of their inhuman interests. I must say for the purpose of justice, that Italian capital, the part which is legitimate and holds itself up with the ability of its industry, has always understood the needs of society, even when they required sacrifice to address new labour terms. The humble folk of labour have always loved me and love me still.
Andrew Lee
All dictators have always made slaughter of their enemies. I have been the only mild one: a few hundred dead against several thousand. I believe I've ennobled dictatorship. Perhaps I emasculated it, but I rid it of instruments of torture. Stalin sits on a mountain of human bones. Is this bad? I don't regret to have done all the good I've done, even to my adversaries, even enemies who plotted against my life. I've done this through the provision of subsidies that were so frequent as to become stipends, as well as by saving their lives. But if tomorrow they will kill my men, what responsibility will I have for having spared them?
Stalin is left standing and wins; I fall and lose. History only concerns itself with victors and the volume of their conquests; triumph justifies everything. The French Revolution is studied for its outcomes, while those who died with the guillotine are relegated to the obituaries.
Nobody will be able to erase twenty years of Fascism from Italy's history. I have no illusion regarding my fate. They will not give me a trial, because they know that from a defendant I would become a prosecutor. They will probably murder me and then claim that I committed suicide, overcome by remorse. He who fears death has never lived, and I have lived, perhaps even too much. Life is nothing more than an intersection between two eternities: the past and the future. As long as my star shone, I was enough for all. Now that it fades, everybody is not enough for me. I will go where destiny will want me because I always did what fate requested of me.
Lincoln Taylor
Fascists who will remain faithful to principles will need to be exemplary citizens. They must respect the laws that the people will give, and cooperate loyally with legitimate authorities to help them heal, as quickly as possible, the fatherland's wounds. Whomever will behave differently will demonstrate the he no longer supports the fatherland when he has to serve it from below. Fascists, in other words, will have to act out of passion, not resentment. From their behaviour will depend a speedier historical rehabilitation of Fascism. Because now it is night, but later, day will break.
It is not the faith that arrives at the moment of death which sustains me, it is the faith of my childhood and of my life which demands that I must believe, even if I might have reason to doubt. I don't know if the Italian people will ever read these notes of mine. I would like to believe they will, to give them the opportunity to accept my last thought as a confession of faith. I also don't know if men will provide me with sufficient time to finish writing. Twenty-two years of governing do not make me, by human judgment, worthy of living another twenty-four hours.
Today I forgive those who don't forgive me and condemn me, thereby condemning themselves. I think of all those to whom it will be denied for years to love and suffer for the fatherland, and I would like them to feel not only witnesses of a defeat, but also bearers of a rebirth. After the time of terrible hate and revenge, there will be the time of reason. Thus, the sense of dignity and honour will be regained and I am certain that the Italians of tomorrow will be able to evaluate, serenely, the causes of the tragic hour that I am living. If this is the last day of my existence, I want to extend my forgiveness even to those who abandoned me and those who betrayed me, much as I have forgiven the king for his weakness.
He was mentioned by Musso here for being a high minded idealist with greater imagination than Marx.
Adrian Wright
bump
Lucas Myers
this is absolutely correct, imo. mussolini was brilliant.
Bentley Howard
thanks for the quality posts, user. I'm going to read further into italian socialism, as I have a rudimentary understanding of its tenets. I know their famous doctrines, but haven't taken the time to read much more than primers and summaries. Gonna have to give il duce the respect he deserves, I suppose.
any other fascists you'd recommend for study? my fbi guy and I have pretty much exhausted all the likely sources of socialism, communism, and anarchy
there is no doctrine to fascism. that is the big secret. mussolini always claimed doctrines are always changing and shifting. He ordered for the Government to stop circulating the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism because it was out of date in 1943. Antonio Labriola was the primary Marxist theorist in Italy if you are interested in reading home.
To understand Italian Revolutionary Socialism (which Mussolini was in all honesty the leader of in 1914) you're going to want to read A. James Gregor's Work's because he is the one translating primary sources into English.
Mussoslini's Intellectuals is a good introduction. Faces of Janus is where Gregor outlines the heterodox Marxism of Mussolini. All can be found here: usa1lib.vip/s/?q=A. James Gregor
But if you want to just jump right in and be a Fascist Revolutionary I would expect you to have at least some grasp of political economy and dialectical thinking. You can read Marx's Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte where he does analysis on where the true power came from (money). You should go on the marxists.org website and read their selected works of Marx and Engels. I would expect you to have somewhat of an understanding of European political scene late 19th early 20th century and this is where Georges Sorel comes in. He was mainly an essayist but you can find a collection of his works in English in the form of Reflections on Violence and The Illusions of Progress. In these books, essentially Georges Sorel rejected participation in parliament and created a theory for how the working classes can seize power over the overlords through the trade unions and the power of myth.
It was with that Sorelian violence the Fascists were most influenced by, and it was through Sorel they were able to take power.
After that you essentially get Fascism, but it is up to you with your political knowledge to shape the state in your vision. Giovanni Gentile's works do quite well tying in Marx with Sorel and creating a genuine Philosophy of Fascism.
You can read Gentile's essays. He has some regarding what 'Fascism' is and even wrote a manifesto signed by many predominant Italian intellectuals.
Genesis and Structure of Society is his last work, before he was killed and may be a poor place to start but it makes rather good sense to me.
