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▶Latest >LPR: All residential areas in Severodonetsk under control of Russian Forces >Russian Forces liberate Svyatogorsk >Russia issuing passports, 10k ruble social benefit payment to residents in Russian controlled territory >Zelenskyy tells Western leaders 20% of Ukraine is now under Russian control >Estonia's coalition government collapses over disagreements on Ukrainian situation >Russia restricts the export of gases, including neon (used in semiconductors), of which it supplies 30% of the world's consumption >Ukrainian offensive on Kherson failed >30 to 50% of Severodonetsk liberated, front line troops say >Liman and Rubezhnoe liberated by Russian forces >Petro Poroshenko spotted being prevented from exiting the Ukraine >Vladimir Zelensky's parents received Israeli citizenship, SAS bodyguards >US tries to force Russian foreign sovereign debt artificial default by refusing to accept repayments of it >Ukraine officially confirms the loss of Svetlodarsk >City of Liman is being stormed by Russian troops >Mariupol arc is over >Putin posthumously awards Motorola the Order of Courage >RU MoD: Azovstal now under complete Russian control >Commander of the 36th Marines Battalion, Sergey Volyna, surrenders to Russia
Ignore jew-mutt He will leave if you don’t give him attention
Christopher Campbell
BREAKING NEWS FROM TODAY youtube.com/watch?v=RZPWAAVZwFE UKRAINE HAS RETAKEN 4 CITIES FROM RUSSIAN. Putin is collapsed his invasion, completely BTFO, Russian army is useless. At this rate, Ukraine is going to occupy parts of Russia and retake Crimea by August
Charles Thomas
none of the most important battles of the war in the east were fought with significant american support, at least that'd make a difference, the vast majority of which came after 1944
Camden Robinson
Euros are getting >JUST ed right now Do they understand the implication of this AND an energy crisis? What the fuck are they doing? How can you have even more retarded leadership than Biden?
50k dead Ukrops and 30k dead ruskies? This is some world war tier shit already. Wich war during the so called "cold war" was that bloody in such a short amount of time?
Jeremiah Perry
we're in doomer mode now, it's been all cope since march...
This Ignore the mutts who "pretend to be retarded". Throwing your head in a wall is more useful than interact with these subhumans.
Adam Brooks
Surely an anglo merc woudln't be that retarded?
Isaac Myers
At a certain point I would have thought Germany says "enough is enough", but no. I am looking forward to the winter, it's going to be very interesting
Ethan Cooper
Even if its fabricated, he deserves to hang just for being there. Unfortunately, probably won't happen.
Andrew Carter
They want a war. This is how you get a war.
Hudson Kelly
Casualties are way worse. Russians are nowhere near that number user.
Based on official vs likely numbers given for Donbass alone since 18th April when Phase 2 began.
Ukraine has sustained: 10200-25500 KIA 30600-51000 WIA
Just in Donbass.
Starting force was 66,000 regular army Ukrainians heavily entrenched in eight years worth of prepared defences who were reinforced by unknown numbers of mercenaries, foreign volunteers and territorial units. Likely an enormous number due to to Zelenskyy's call to arms about Donbass being the key to victory.
If the higher end of the range is the more accurate one then it's utterly staggering in scale for an offensive phase in the 21st century in just 51 days of fighting. It does line up with the regime desperately bringing in thousands of reinforcements from 700 miles away to try and hold the line. It makes the higher end more and more likely.
Kayden Taylor
korea was something like 170k dead coalition and 400k dead NK/China iirc
Oliver Campbell
That's a man
Thomas Clark
>Unfortunately, probably won't happen. baZed
Jackson Nguyen
They say they are ready to freeze for "freedom" of Ukraine. I am ready to freeze so people would start using their brains.
Juan Butler
They are trying I think Merkel did at least But she couldn't stay forever
How come no anti-US countries in the Americas (Cuba, etc) wanted to expose America's hypocrisy of the Ukraine being a sovereign nation deciding what they want, as in when it comes to joining alliances? Pull a Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0?
Ukraine 60k KIA between the NG and regular forces, + 100k WIA, +200k unaccountable. Not including defections, surrenders, desertions and mutinies.
Russian forces dead, I have yet to see a good source for that. I see reports of between 3k to 30k.
Carson Ortiz
Hello /chug/.
I am going to a family gathering soon and my uncle will be there. He always likes to talk to me about politics and geopolitics because he knows I'm interested in it. I can practically guarantee he will ask me about Ukraine.
Problem is he and my aunt are VERY anti-Russia. Their views are basically identical with The Economist magazine for an illustration. Making it worse my Aunt's best friend is a Ukrainian-Canadian journalist who has been writing articles about how Russia is committing literal genocide. My aunt blamed Putin for Brexit.
So when my Uncle asks me about Ukraine do I:
>A) Dodge the subject. Maybe subtly hint that he won't like what I have to say and leave it at that. >B) Make a completely neutral analysis of the situation (will probably be taken as pro-Russian anyway) >C) Start dropping redpills and calling Zelenskyy a puppet and fraud >D) Cuck out and go full "Slava Ukraini!" for family peace
What's happening with Odessa? Russia seems to be conceding on the grain exports front and is telling Ukraine to clear the harbour there. Is this an admission that Odessa won't be targeted for takeover? Are the Russians happy with taking the Donbas and the Kherson corridor?
Nah, they'll be released on live TV though >Well I doubt that many anons will listen fucking baZed
Mason Green
Posted this a couple of threads ago but didn't realize there was only like 5 posts left until the end.
It's Kiev, has never been spelled Kyiv in the West. Do you say Moskva? We have anglo names for foreign cities and it has ALWAYS been Kiev.
As for the initial attack in that area there are two options. 1. (more likely) Russia thought that the population would turn on Zelensky and his goons and they'd be there to support an uprising or just walk in to an already fallen city. When this didn't happen they left and changed strategy. Bad intel would've caused this. 2. It was a feint to tie down significant forces in the west and around the capital and prevent reinforcement and resupply before taking out logistics and transport. This would ensure they weren't facing the entire Ukrainian army in the East.
Not sure which it is, we may never know but it doesn't really matter, Russia has tightened up their strategy and is slowly but surely taking whatever they want to. Creeping artillery and attrition of the enemy while losing minimal manpower themselves.We're not seeing anywhere near the number of losses compared to earlier in the war and they now have total air supremacy.
Yeah, but when was the last time something like that happened in Europe? I could be overreacting a little bit tho, because Europe is not really that relevant anymore, besides Britain
If you value them as family, just dodge. Western brainwashing is so good, I think it is impossible to cure and pointless to even try.
Elijah Brooks
MMT will have its judgement day soon.
Isaac Ramirez
Their get zelensky to admit it is him who is stoping grain exports 2 days ago they got that bit out of him also Russians I think will probably go bare minimum Nikoaleiv
Christopher Clark
>I think it is impossible to cure and pointless to even try. At least one of you here knows your place in this world.
Josiah Jenkins
You're living in a western country, revealing your power level is always a bad idea, even if you don't care what your family thinks! Either dodge the question and act like you don't know anything, or act like slava ukraini npc
Lincoln Jackson
B) or just straight up say you don't wanna talk about it. I'm in a similar pickles with my father and parental gradnparents. Instead of converting me to being pro-Russian, they made me so anti-Russian and now I just try to reason with them or just straight up stare at my phone whilst they yell and scream at each other for Ukraine is trash and how Russia did nothing wrong.
At this point, I don't care what Russia does to Ukranians. I don't care if they rape and genocide them. I just want Ukraine to win so my family can stfu about the war.
Ryan Sullivan
God willing I hate its the most Jewish creation ever invented
Jason Morgan
I say both Kiev and Moskva lol. And will continue to do so. Kyiv just sounds stupid, even to someone who didn't grow up speaking Russian.
Blake Perry
Idk, this looks horrible for Zelensky's defensive war if true. Armenia lost like 1/12 of that figure during the 2020 conflict and they were pissed almost to the point of overthrowing Pashinyan
Parker Diaz
I redpill all the time, but stop if they want to move on. I have slowly redpilled half my family by not budging and using the truth. Make sure to be truthful and intelligent though.
Jackson Brown
Uh, baZed?
Justin Torres
Incel Slava is in vacations, so how is going the special operation zetas? How many hohols surrender this night?
It sure is not my place to cure victims of top notch western propaganda lies. I pity you is all. What is your point?
Easton Sanchez
You forget though Armenia was just screwed though and the guy was pro west Zelensky has support because he is claiming great wins Armenia couldn't
Ethan Clark
>Incel Slava is in vacations Yeah, I bet his bum is enjoy that
Austin Turner
This is the safe bet and what I have been doing most of the time - with the exception of some open minded friends who I give the neutral analysis to. I'm tempted to push back on some of the extreme propaganda but yeah I don't want to provoke a fight. I remember they were shocked a couple years ago before this when I basically said that I wasn't "entirely anti-Putin" so even trying to be neutral now would be dangerous. Thanks for the advice.
Cannot do this. I don't think I could even fake being a "Slava Ukraini" Captain Ukraine fan.
