Real conservatism vs fake conservatism

Real conservatism vs fake conservatism.

Fake conservatism: We're all about individualism, limited government, and freedom!

Real conservatism: We believe in morality, virtue, and community values... Individualism is just selfishness.

Fake conservatism: Overturning Roe v. Wade isn't making abortion illegal. Its just returning the issue to the states!

Real conservatism: Abortion is an abominable sin and it deserves to be outlawed.

Fake conservatism: Yeah we're gonna become alpha and then girls will like us!

Real conservatism: We will decide what women are allowed to be attracted to.

Fake conservatism: No one tells me what to do! I should be allowed to do whatever I want!

Real conservatism: God will tell you what to do.

Fake conservatism: Yeah fuck China! Fuck Russia! Thank God we ain't some authoritarian third world shithole right?

Real conservatism: It would be better if we were poor and authoritarian then the soulless dystopia of selfishness and consumerism we have created here.

Fake conservatism: Nothing's more important then the economy!

Real conservatism: Nothing's more important then the moral fabric of society.

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No. Conservativism is poor uneducated white people getting conned into voting against their own economic interests for racism, bigotry and meaningless "culture war" issues. "Conservatism" is just stupid people being taken advantage of and conned and being too stupid to understand what's happening to them PS your dumb god is fake

Most conservatives were about small government until the 1960s

This was Conservatism as defined during the Atlantic Revolutions, the Founding Fathers were the original libtards.

they hated him because he told them the truth

>real conservatism is when you're a clergyman

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Based as fuck.

Only because small government back then wasn't empowering rampant degeneracy and sin.

If you have a moral, traditional people you can have a small government. But degeneracy is a sign that a society has taken freedom too far and you have to become strict and authoritarian again to stop social collapse.

100% accurate.

> It would be better if we were poor and authoritarian then the soulless dystopia of selfishness and consumerism we have created here.
Extremely based.

Exactly. American and british "conservatism" is just Burkean liberalism.

>Fake conservatism: We're all about individualism, limited government, and freedom!

no, you are wrong

One of the meanings of conservatism is that it is a political doctrine that defends the maintenance of the system of traditional political, social and moral values and opposes reforms or radical changes in society but that does not mean that it has to be necessarily religious (or Christian) but based on individual values and virtues and considered as not degenerative or perverse

You and I do not need religion to know that raping, killing innocent people and enslaving the weak is wrong, it is something human and instinctive

>Real conservatism: We will decide what women are allowed to be attracted to.

Holy shit this is one of the saddest and funniest things I've seen.

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>You and I do not need religion to know that raping, killing innocent people and enslaving the weak is wrong, it is something human and instinctive

You have way too much faith in humanity. Humanity is naturally evil. Most people do need religion to understand that those things are wrong. Some people will be good and do not need laws and religion, but the average person does need laws and religion to behave.

and based.

>You have way too much faith in humanity. Humanity is naturally evil

We all share something in common and that is the sense of right and wrong. It is something that is created from the moment of human conception, you do not need to read the bible or a clergyman who tells you that torture and pain is something cruel, perverse and degenerative as I explained earlier

But those who do not recognize the evil in it is not because they do not know Christianity or the Bible, it is because they are by nature evil and it is the duty of pious and good men to stop the evil acts of that man who is not aware of his Bad acts. Whether you are religious or not that will not prevent you from becoming a demon. Remember that the devil, before being the devil, was an angel

>Some people will be good and do not need laws and religion, but the average person does need laws and religion to behave.

I never said that they do not need them, I said that conservatism does not have to be only religious but appreciate the virtues and values, which have existed since before religions, that distance man from perversion and corruption such as weakness, cowardice , sodomy, slavery, defenselessness, cruelty, etc.

>you do not need to read the bible or a clergyman who tells you that torture and pain is something cruel, perverse and degenerative as I explained earlier

You don't need it to understand why it hurts you but it seems, unfortunately, people need to constantly be told why these things are bad to do to other people.

>people need to constantly be told why these things are bad to do to other people

Maybe but I won't discuss it anyway. The point is that conservatism is not only religious

People can make mistakes and harm other people unintentionally, but if the same mistake is repeated it is because that person does not care that they are wrong, it is their natural evil

>You don't need it to understand why it hurts

yes, every good man always seeks to understand why something hurts and avoid why that evil is repeated

the bad man doesn't care why he hurts because he doesn't hurt or the perversion of him is greater than his pain

>shut up!

the bad man doesn't care why it hurts because it doesn't hurt him or the perversion of him is greater than his pain*