"Truth."

Because he was attempting to begin an actual dialogue, establish terms. If the filmmaker had started with “can you define woman without using the word woman” then a dialogue could’ve been achieved.

The documentary shows that leftists are liars. They all know what a woman is but won't admit it due to political reasons.

It's impossible to converse with a lifeform which won't agree that words have meaning. The story of the tower of Babel must have been referring to leftists.

letterboxd is going full shut it down mode on anyone who posts a positive review of it

>this guy is a professor at the University of Tennessee
>their motto is "Know the truth and the truth shall set you free"

>The documentary doesn’t engage transgenderism or make any real attempt to refute it.
Did you skip the middle part where all they talked about was how 1. Most teens who transition don't have dysphoria, 2. It's not obvious that "gender affirmation therapy"(or whatever) is the best treatment for dysphoria and 3. Pharmaceutical companies make bank off of transitions?

>People Arguing Semantics For 2 Hours: The Movie

truly a riveting premise

Having a different idea isn’t lying, my autistic friend.

Healthy at any size was a thing for a while. People wanted it to be true, but it just wasn’t.

Today I will remind them.

Transgender cultists and kosher boshers gaslight vulnerable people into thinking that hormones and surgery are the only way for them to be happy, that they were born in the "wrong body" and that the way to start living as their "true selves" is through experimental surgery. The gender identity lie makes it easy for them to convince anyone with even a single atypical interest that they were really "meant to be" the opposite sex. The guaranteed state mandated acceptance and constant positive reinforcement from the media and their fellow grooming victims helps sell the con, too. But in reality there's no genuine appeal. HRT is ugly serum that makes you fat and ruins your skin, it doesn't "feminize". The "bottom surgery" is simply genital mutilation. It can't give you a real vagina. They absolutely do not need surgery or hormones to start loving the way they were born. Boys don't need to cease being male to feel pretty. Girls don't need to cease being female to feel athletic. The gender identity construct is inherently limiting. It tells people they need to change themselves to express any feelings they have that don't fall in line with the socially accepted parodies that our media considers "masculine" and "feminine". It's sad that people get tricked into hating and destroying themselves like this just to appease sexist stereotypes, even moreso that a lot of them are kids. If we had positive femboy and tomboy rolemodels rather than these transgender groomers telling everyone that self esteem is achieved through hormones and surgery, I think you'd see a lot more happy people who accept that they don't fit into gender stereotypes and a lot less miserable mutilation victims who insist on being called something they're not. The world becomes a better place when we celebrate tough girls and sensitive boys who break the mold while invalidating this meaningless and dangerous fad.

Nobody argued semantics.

I mean there's nothing more unscientific than the idea of truth. Everyone knows science is founded on just.. Whatever you feel like. Like physics.

Because only the drugs of society fall for the lefty psyop. The more well adjusted but still naive only fall for the righty pysop. And the truly wise realize both are psyops and know that the true enemy of all humankind, the entity destroying all nations, is the clique of kikes who own the federal reserve.

What idea?

>men and women are what science says they are
>b-but don't trust le evil vaccines
Make up your damn mind. You either trust science or you don't.

You don't have to remind us. This thread is an echo chamber for you trannies to agree.

I thought the entire premise was to define the word "woman". If they don't argue about semantics then it seems a derailed film.

Science is a method. The scientific method was never used to prove safety of efficacy for the covid shots. This isn't even debatable, Pfizer and crew literally admitted to falsifying the data and that they never ran the studies they claimed to run.

I watched the entire documentary and was not aware of any segment that made anything resembling those points. Gender identity dysphoria isn’t even in the DSM anymore, so obviously people aren’t going to be diagnosed with it.

that pasta is wholly anti-tranny, illiterate user.

>They will never be an alpha.
Shouldn't have included this one. A lot of men on the right try to bend the definition so they can fit inside it. Most of them are literal betabux and they sure as hell aren't leaders, but they'll tell you being alpha is a state of mind (that they just happen to possess) and other pathetic copes. Or this one for that matter:
>They will never be beautiful.
Go on Any Forums (HUGE overlap of Any Forums users) and tell them that a person's beauty is mostly determined by their genes and that there's no gym for your face, frame and height, and watch them work themselves into a seethe.

Everyone is insecure like that.

Those who practice falsehood tend to hate truth because it threatens to reveal and disempower them.

It's transphobic to assert objective truth. For the modern left, it's about "my truth" and "your truth". I might not agree with it, but I understood why he got so offended.

Transgenderism?

Why would a dysphoria not be in the DSM when it's inherently affecting someone's mental state?

shoulda shown the africans some tranny porn

>The documentary doesn’t engage transgenderism or make any real attempt to refute it.

ok retard, cats are dogs and the sky is blu

He was offended because he was put in a position where he could be eaten alive by his own if he happened to answer in a way that might imply there is an objective truth. That's why they get so offended it's a self protection from the own groups they support.

The premise is that leftism is an inherently dishonest ideology. Leftists throw tantrums over the word "truth" and will talk in circles to avoid stating the obvious.

It's not even possible to argue semantics with leftists because they refuse to allow meaningful definition of words.

Because lobbyists got it taken out. If it's not a diagnosis then you can't be sued for misdiagnosis. It was an important step for them because every diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" could be proven a misdiagnosis in court, so they had to make sure that when they pushed these drugs and surgeries onto people it couldn't bite them in the ass later.

>trannies still trannying it up
>conservatives still being conservatives
this jewish documentary has no real impact. i also checked out the guys twitter and he tweets non stop about leftists and trannies

See? You responded with rhetoric instead of any sort of argument.

youtube.com/watch?v=XdkyLrDpaUg

>169194334

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>1. Lonely misfit teens who become trans because its trendy or got groomed in discord
>2. I forgot lmao
>3. They do these at $70000 a pop

Do you think he posts on Any Forums?

It is in DSM V. It's called "gender dysphoria". It was renamed from the previous "gender identity disorder".

A man saying he's a woman is a liar, not a person with different ideas

See? There’s a great argument that would’ve been in the documentary if it was attempting to actually engage with and disprove transgenderism.

>What is a woman?
>Somebody who identifies as a woman
>But what is that?
>What?
>A woman.
>Someone who identifies as one.

>i also checked out the guys twitter and he tweets non stop about leftists and trannies
He literally tweeted some fan art with a bunch of wojaks. I fucking hate these terminally online right wingers, they're as cringe as the tranny side of twitter.

>70k
… so practically nothing?

You might enjoy this article. It was on Medium but got nuked when lefties decided they were totally okay with conversion therapy that targets LGB people now.

suedonym.substack.com/p/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq?s=r

As far as I can tell it's disproving leftism. The transgender topic is used to show that leftists are liars.

Maybe you can't define woman without using the word woman.
Maybe a spade is just a spade.

The entire point of this documentary was to let the leftists out themselves as manipulative liars.

Tell me, what is a woman?

>4. Turns 25
>5. Realizes that now matter how much you mutilate your body to become something you're not you'll still never be happy
>6. Realize that you've sterilized yourself because other mentally ill people on the internet convinced you to
>7. Join the 41%

You have to atleast admit that being anti-religious in the 00's wouldn't blacklist u from jobs. The extremely religious often had very little real social power. And the ones that did have power weren't serious enough to care. Not so with the tranny orthodoxy.

You’re displaying autistic ideation. Are the people who believed heathy at any size liars or simply mistaken?

>The documentary doesn’t engage transgenderism or make any real attempt to refute it. Instead it paints opposition in the style of rhetoric to maintain/reinforce a situation where two groups of people are using the same sounding words, but speaking different languages, and keeping them screaming at each other with no chance of reconciliation or a meeting of minds. Which is how every “political” issue is constructed.

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>another thread where chuds bash trans folk
Meds, touch grass, have sex. In that order.

She also has a great piece about how she ended up in those spaces herself and broke free from it.

Doesn’t really have the same effect now that Pfizer data dumps are a thing. I can just see the lies they told for myself.

There’s no such thing as “leftism” as you see it. It’s a boogeyman concept.

>t. ranny who didn't watch the movie

Thanks, normal person.

Being anti religious wouldn't blacklist you from most jobs even in the 70s. Definitely not the 80s.

I will not take estrogen, touch grass, or have sex (in that order).

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the most annoying bit for me was that random roastie he interviews on the street and she says to the affect 'everyone has their own truth. if you think I don't exist, then that's YOUR truth :)'

what the fucking shit does that mean? oh ok, my 'truth' is you don't have any human rights because you don't exist so I'm just pull a gun and shoot you in broad daylight. it's MY truth :)'

what is wrong with them? they just deconstruct everything so nothing makes sense and then call you crazy or bigoted for not letting them chemically castrate your kids. never has a friend/enemy distinction been so definitive. the time for 'conversation' is over. action needs to be taken.

Like "conservatives" and "nazis"?

Adult human female.

Calling this documentary useless bullshit designed solely to reinforce a false dichotomy doesn’t make someone a tranny.

You can both be ignorant and lying. Ignorant of the whole reality but lying on small issues.

Trannys are ignorant of why they are so fucked up. They are lying about what they are.

Meds, what like hormone blockers?

this pasta can't be posted enough. btfos trannies at the core of their ideology.

The entire notion of "transgender" is inherently bigoted, it's rooted in homophobia and sexism. There is no such thing as a man who expresses himself "as a woman". A man who wears makeup is expressing himself in one of the many ways that men can, and by insisting that he's a woman, or even by allowing him to insist that he's a woman, you're actively reducing the number of ways men are allowed to express themselves. You're saying "no, men aren't allowed to be beautiful or wear makeup. they have to become women if they want to do that". You're saying "no, girls aren't allowed to cut their hair short or play sports. they have to become men if they want to do that". Enforced conformity is all it is. It's no different from an oppressive traditionalist purity spiral. If you actually cared about these people you would want them to love and accept their bodies and their actual, true selves. They aren't transgender. Nobody is. There's no such thing as "transgender". They're just afraid of society bludgeoning them to force them to get back in line. So instead of changing their behavior to be more socially acceptable for men, they think they can change their bodies to be more socially acceptable for their behavior. Do you not see how that's the same problem either way? People need to stand up and say "men can wear makeup and women can have hairy legs and it's not taboo". They should never, EVER give in to the society's bigoted demands by changing their bodies to look more like the opposite sex, which never works by the way and always results in monstrosities. If you don't see why actual LGB people are against transgender ideology you're either a bad faith bigot or you have zero empathy.

There is no dichotomy. I don’t think you know what that word means. This movie is literally making fun of western Leftists and their mental gymnastics.

Sure, why not? Current “politics” are a series of manufactured false dichotomies curated to maintain a constant impotent screaming match.

user, lying requires knowledge that what you’re saying isn’t true.

So, again. Autistic ideation.

This documentary shows they know the truth but are averse to it. The questioning is an attempt to get them to acknowledge the truth. Their reactions show they know exactly what the truth is but want to suppress the truth. The closer he gets to discussing plain and simple reality the more hostile his interviewees get.

I'm not sure how this flew over your head.

>false dichotomy (plural false dichotomies) (rhetoric) A situation in which two alternative points of view are presented as the only options, when others are available.
Us vs them.

Leftists are hyperdomesticated subhumans. They probably can't perceive reality at all. They only understand social cues.

They really do need to be culled.

Ah, yes. Science. Is that why earth is still the center of the solar system?

Oh? Is it NOT? Can can THAT be! Scientists said so 500 years ago!

There is nothing false about this dichotomy. Friend-enemy distinction is the basis of politics itself.

>The entire notion of "transgender" is inherently bigoted, it's rooted in homophobia and sexism
This. I never understood how quickly the left switched from "gender roles don't exist; girls can like trucks and boys can like dolls," into "gender exist and boys who play with dolls might actually be a girl in the wrong body."

America is so fucked.

user. You’ve fallen for bullshit. The people who believe transgenderism believe the definition of woman isn’t biological. Therefore they don’t know “the truth” or disagree with your “the truth”

I was actually providing examples for the listed parts of the movie in my op that that cocksucker hasn't adressed

Sure there is. For starters, trannies aren’t the people responsible for pushing transgenderism. So attacking them is pointless. Especially if you’re going to “attack” them with rhetoric that doesn’t mean anything to them.

how many gay people are suffering in religious families? and obviously it's worse in other countries

Because pharma realized that they could make a lot of money by gaslighting kids into thinking they were "born wrong". It worked great for every other child drug to fix a fake mental illness they've invented, so what's one more? And of course the average lefty takes 100% of their beliefs from what corporations like Pfizer tell them to believe, so there's no critical thinking involved that might lead them to accidentally realize that gender ideology is the most sexist and homophobic ideology in human history.

Whatever the numbers are, it's utterly dwarfed by the number of gay people suffering because of tranny ideology.
t. gay person

This thread is literally unhinged.
Unironically I don't think there's saving any of you, your mind is poisoned off internet memes.

It's whatever since none of you participate in society but it's still scary to see what an echochamber does.

If they didn't understand that a woman is an adult human female they wouldn't shy away from it like vampires avoid garlic.

Their reactions show they know.

Of course. Trannies are victims. The movie itself didnt attack trannies themselves but the ideology. The testimony of that FtM was one of the strongest parts.

Who cares.

Remember, you are here forever.

The documentary doesn't attack trannies. It's attempting to protect trannies from selfish leftist mutilators.

It clearly attacks liberalism itself. It exposes liberal ideology as a sham

But do they actually believe what they're saying? In that case they are lying, both to themselves and to everyone else just to fit in.

I'm not the person you're replying to, but I posted further up thread about a woman's account of how she ended up entwined in gender ideology
suedonym.substack.com/p/played-the-fool?s=r
Basically none of them have actually read their scripture, you can't. Butler's writing is basically by design made to be incomprehensible. It's meant to make you give up and just agree with the central premise, because you don't want to seem stupid. Most of the people spouting this shit don't actually believe it, they just don't want to seem stupid, they just agree with it, because people they perceive to be smarter than them are saying this shit

>vague admonishing with no definite point
>pretends to be above it all but won't engage in actual conversation
Your behavior is the most unhinged and mentally ill in this thread. Healthy people don't do whatever you just did. You're offended at something but you're afraid to mention what it is so you just throw vagaries around.

This arguments kinda weak considering the minuscule amount of money trannies are worth.

what a waste of biomass you are. stay away from children you fucking freak

People told them that being a woman doesn’t mean female. They want that to be true. Just like the people who were told they could be healthy at any size.

Truth is not decided by social consensus, you literal retard.

The movie (better word than documentary for this) didn’t attack anything. See .

I bet you incels were rejected by a beautiful trans woman and now you are just bitter.

Are you pretending to be uninformed? Trannies make more money for big pharma every year than all of Hollywood combined makes on their movies.

but the objective is to turn everyone into some sort of genderless mentally ill freak dependent on constant medication and surgery by the government/big pharma . these people always play the long game

I have to reject trannies every day because I'm a femboy. You freaks will never be women and you will never be prettyboys. You're just frumpy dudes who fell for a meme.

Even if that was true, it’s a drop in the bucket for big pharma.

spbp

>the objective is to turn everyone into some sort of genderless mentally ill freak

There’s no need for histrionics

>beautiful trans woman
oxymoron

you have to admit it's funny seeing the religious people over at the daily wire talking about truth

even Musk wants to put microchip in your head. just wait until it people think it gives you a competitive edge in the job market, then the real fun begins

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Absolutely this. The entire movement is blackpill queerphobia. You're not a man unless you're Chad. You're not a woman unless you're Stacy. If you don't look like an airbrushed influencer, your only hope of a good life is to get surgery.

you 12 or a glowie?

Trannys reject no one. They're even thirstier than homos.

>daily wire is Christian
Did not know this. Explains why the filmmaker was so smarmy.

Bingo

Look at these semantics

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Words don't mean things. People mean things, words are just how we inadequately convey those meanings. Productive conversation is more about reading between the lines to understand what the other person means to say than it is about saying the right words to convince them. Hiding behind a dictionary is just a way to avoid having to interact the ideas being presented to you.

yeah the same fag that kept threatening him about ending the interview if he got triggered
stop being so dishonest faglord

Imagine getting invasive surgery to look like this, fucking kek

Everything he asked the filmmaker was an attempt to establish ground terms. The filmmaker parried all his attempts to even start a dialogue.

user, we don’t even have proof that we actually exist lol. Show me proof. What’s your proof? Anything you point to will be dependent on something else, a product and part of the same matrix we doubt the existence of. You don’t know ANYTHING, start to admit it before the same god you worship sends you to burn in hell for pride.

He threatened to end the interview because the guy kept refusing to even begin a discussion.

this is dumb
people can do the things you said
but instead they wanted control and force people to accept them
its their fault theyre cowards and no one needs to help endorse or care about their feelings or view on social constructs
fuck off

Establishing the terms that are being used is the first step to understanding something. If you wish to have productive conversation you cannot leave things vague. If you cant establish terms then perhaps you just dont have an argument.

That’s a ftm, she doesn’t look terrible.

Troons are mentally ill :)

Jannies being trannies as always.

You're a fucking idiot. Not everyone is the rugged individualist you are, a lot of young people accept things uncritically before they know better.

I experience it therefore I exsist. Take your sudo intellectual bullshit elsewhere