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▶Latest >Russia restricts the export of gases, including neon (used in semiconductors), of which it supplies 30% of the world's consumption >Ukrainian offensive on Kherson failed >30 to 50% of Severodonetsk liberated, front line troops say >Liman and Rubezhnoe liberated by Russian forces >Petro Poroshenko spotted being prevented from exiting the Ukraine >Vladimir Zelensky's parents received Israeli citizenship, SAS bodyguards >US tries to force Russian foreign sovereign debt artificial default by refusing to accept repayments of it >Ukraine officially confirms the loss of Svetlodarsk >Ukrainian government proposes Bill 7351, which would allow officers to use lethal force on soldiers disobeying orders or abandoning their posts >City of Liman is being stormed by Russian troops >Mariupol arc is over >Putin posthumously awards Motorola the Order of Courage >RU MoD: Azovstal now under complete Russian control >Commander of the 36th Marines Battalion, Sergey Volyna, surrenders to Russia >Zelensky confirms kalibration of AFU training center in Desna, 300 dead >Erdogan: Turkey can't say yes to Finland and Sweden's NATO membership >Azov surrendering and being sent to a 3rd country: DPR >Power supply returns to Mariupol, Volnovakha and other liberated cities and villages of the DPR >Russia cuts off electricity to Finland >Lloyd Austin calls for Russia-Ukriane cease-fire in talk with Sergei Shoigu
Since this war has been playing out like WW1 for some time could it end like WW1? The Ukraine should inevitably capitulate once it runs out of western weapons and manpower, and it gets routed from Donbas to the steppes.
Carson Cox
Can any rusbro post the vids of the hohols lying/sleaping on the floor again? There were two or more videos, I forgot to save them. In one vid the cameraman said slava ukraini and one of the floorhohols started rambling
Jose Perry
Wow Russian patriots are vocal about the defeat in Severodontesk and they are not happy. They're discontented with the failure of phase 2 and the the lack of fully liberating the sepratist republics. I guess they were holding out hope for Slavyansk by the start of June. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have Putin redo the entire thing starting with the pontoon bridge crossing across the Donets. Obviously that won't happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
>one side has a massive advantage in manpower >the other has superior command, weapons, and morale >globohomo lend-lease keeping the former on life support It's more like WW2
Luis Young
Well, Russia is blasting their deep trench lines they built for 8 years, and you might be right. Ukraine might collapse after the Donbass.
>Western media portrays Putin as a Stalin-esque hardliner mastermind wanting to rebuild the Soviet Union/Russian Empire at all costs >Reality shows Putin as a rather passive realpolitik midwit who tries to score political victories here and there Which is true?
>But evil shall come upon you, which you will not know how to charm away; disaster shall fall upon you, for which you will not be able to atone; and ruin shall come upon you suddenly, of which you know nothing
Hungary talks Zelensky and his screaming, childish, angry, thankless 'politics.' Funny read, worth your while. Expect to see more politicians calling him unhinged and mentally unwell in the near future. They're gonna bury him.
Russians didn't actually use even half the artillery they had prepped for this shitshow around Kharkov early in the war, in fact "the north" was just convoys moving in and camping.
Landon Ross
Yes, Ukraine did a good job of fending off the feint in the north.
Cameron Jones
Wasnt possible unless the ukrainian goverment collapsed after the coup de grace attempt on Kiev imo. Ukraine is too big and too many people live in it.
Julian Scott
eh, Destiny's just desperately trying to train up debatebro 2.0 to help with the midterms, apparently by just flinging a load of gay shit at the wall to see what sticks
Joshua Morgan
What the actual fuck is the status of Severodonetsk?
Bentley Scott
Soviet Union's tanks were great and underrated in the West. They were a large part of why they won the War according to some historians Yeah, Avdievka is the key fortress to watch. One of the heaviest military fortress there and possibly in the world, they have used it to bomb the neighboring areas for years like the terrorists they are
Jordan Ward
what about me, who's gonna fuck me?
Lucas Johnson
Its start with a the sunn video about some merc getting in sevdonetsk "muh we are going to retake the city"
Andrew Cook
Looking more and more likely that the Donetsk bombing was a Russian false flag.
Truth is Putin is trying to finish his legacy and not it fall into a bloodthirsty hardliner that will destroy the world That or this shit was all planned out before it started by the power that be I still think it might be futile and the Russians will just answer the call for blood
I mean it's full attrition warfare like WW1, WW2 had more manouver warfare He probably means that Russia attacked the Ukraine with less than 200k soldiers and nothing more was mobilized, while Ukies have 200k regular army and 600k+ reservists.
Andrew Johnson
>feint It wasn't a feint, that's just coping
I'll agree it wasn't a genuine military offensive, but it was a political move that Russia was hoping would make the Ukrainian government flee the country and thus Ukraine capitulate easier
someone asked why we have the worst hohol population
when western canada opened up with the railroad we needed people to fill it, a lot of them came from ukraine everything was turned into a grid, each of those 36 boxes is supposed to be a square mile boxes 11 and 29 were given to local school board to build and operate a school, these are usually where the towns formed, but protestant and catholic schools were not integrated, so in smaller towns everyone was one or the other, there wasn't much mixing so a bunch of ukranians moved to nowhere areas where they didn't mix because they were catholic and kept some form of their identity
Only 200k of Russian soldiers are commited and that's the total number, including the rotation, humanitarian convoys etc. In FOURTH wave of mobilization of the ukraine, in other hand, they had 700k of soldiers do the fighting(fighting as much as a hohol is capable, of course, most of it consists of standing with the hands raised, white flag and shouting "I SOOOOORENDEER!"). Which wave of mobilization are they at now?
>7% equipment this ignores that lend lease accounted for around half of their food in early war. half of the army would've starved to death without lend lease.
>russia false flag bombed the Donbass because... >uh, THEY JUST DID OKAY? Russia literally has no use for false flags
Grayson Miller
>globohomo lend-lease keeping the former on life support Of course it's a mutt thinking the USSR would have fallen without his precious act. Go deepthroat a barrel of a loaded gun, please.
just like they had no reason to bomb Moscow apartments, right?
Ethan Wright
The Ukrainians who were bragging about bombing Donetsk a few years back seem to be the loudest in denying it now I have the misfortune of knowing these motherfucks
Andrew Martinez
Sure, they planned to take Kiev if Ukraine laid down their arms. However, it was NOT a true military offensive.
The last one they officially called was the 4th, but really it's more like the 5th now. I don't know what they'll send in next. 9 million ukrainians have fled the country, and there are 100,000+ dead ukrainian soldiers.
Hunter Rivera
>attacked with less than 200k soldiers >attacked No, yeah, that makes sense
Owen Martin
Not getting into the lend lease debate. But the USSR doesnt win without it. Wallies could have without USSR but Germany would have been a nuclear wasteland and Britain would have been decimated by Sarin.
Anyways. What ultimately won the war for the allies was oil and Germany’s lack of it.
Robert Evans
That's what I said
Juan Kelly
You’ll never be a woman. Go work on your skin suit, Buffalo Bill.
I do think USSR could win without land lease but it would have cost them a lot heavier. The tipping points were the tanks and the heavy Russian weather, German troops were running out of supplies
Parker Hill
That crossdresser globohomo stooge is definitely going down sooner or later. Even the kikes realized just how GREEDY and eternal-victims they are they fear that hohols will outjew the jew in these aspects.
>9 million ukrainians have fled the country They were all formed up into training battalions and stationed to Ft. McClellan, Alabama. Soon they'll be relocated to their staging areas in the Azores for advanced training on mobile field kitchens designed to NATO specifications. Those Russians won't know what hit them.
Lend-lease was crucial to getting Soviet industry back on its feet. Stuff like high-quality machine tools may be a small part of GDP, but that doesn't matter when they're needed desperately regardless. Logistics was also carried by lend-lease with thousands of train cars, hundreds of locomotives, and 30% of their entire truck fleet being lend-lease by the end of the war.
I never said that Ukraine will win. I said that the parallels are far closer to WW2, except the Jews are losing.
Blake Bailey
Russia will become a muslum country
Michael Roberts
Okraina will concede to whatever the Russians want as soon as they run out of idiots to send to eat shrapnel. At that point who knows what the Russians will be satisfied with though.
Brayden Parker
He is not german! He is a Hungarian Banderaloving shizo! Take that back Crimea-kun!
Second is obviously true. The world would've been different if they accepted us when he literally asked it in fluent German 20 years ago. youtube.com/watch?v=hSPZlCo2B0E
Hudson Barnes
Kek someone should tell them how the syrian civil war turned out for Iraq. Ukraine will get fucked.
Zachary Bailey
MIC's overhyped overdesigned wunderwaffen.
Nolan Williams
Well, I disagree purely on the matter of food and medical supplies. Russia would have collapsed in 43 had they not got lend lease and were running into manpower problems until they liberated Ukraine. I am not minimizing as some may claim, Russian blood spent.
Mostly "Literally whos", except for Destiny, whom I expected to use better fucking arguments than "Crimea vote was forced at gunpoint" and "Russia is actually losing economically and militarily" (holy shit).
He did... point out that "The real reason Russia invaded was that it sees itself as an opposition to the West and wants a bipolar world" (and that's true. The West is degenerate and needs to be ... at the very least shaken up), but he did it way too late and let Hinkle and Haz absolutely fucking run away with the "Ukraine is a Nazi state" narrative. Which... it is. The entire time they've discussed Ukraine's shortcomings, not focusing on Russia's shortcomings (which is where Destiny MIGHT HAVE scored some point, but - oh well).
I thought the head-hohol stated that there are 700k active, but you might be correct. It's the fourth(4) wave of mobilization anyhow, it's desperate measures already.
I think the " feint " argument fails, because Russia gained nothing " feint " wise
No troops were diverted from the East to support Kiev and Ukraine has been sending troops from the West to the East ever since
if while surrounding Kiev, Russia captured Kharkov and Slavyansk, then I would believe the " feint " argument
Owen Cook
t. mutt
did you learn this in holocaust class?
Jaxon Robinson
They were near 900k
Thomas Lee
Magyars on suicide watch
Jacob Gonzalez
>sweety GO back to r/icutmydickoffandamstillnotawomanhelp
Nathan Campbell
Ukraine doesnt need all that territory. Just Kuban and all the land up to Kursk is enough. The rest can be Russia but as a vasaal state. And everything east of the Urals should be fractured into a dozen republics.
Jonathan Gonzalez
>700k Less then 25k are in donbas sector. Other rear guard elements aren't even stationed near combat zones not counting factors.
James Wilson
I'll agree that Russia would have lost more soldiers without America sending them supplies, as well as more civilians without aid However, Germany made a mistake in fighting a two-front war and underestimating their opponents
Brody Jones
A real diversion wouldn't have actually required crossing the border. Keeping 100k on the other side of the border in Belarus would have kept the Ukrainians sweating with much lower risk. It was a failed blitz they tried for political reasons because of bad "we'll be welcome as liberators" intel. End of story.
Carter Butler
>near constant shelling of many artillery types >aviation in the air >barely able to put their head up if they aren't in cities >these people are expected to defend anything while all they can do is pray
Oliver Reyes
Source?
Aiden Campbell
It was an attempt to Coup de Grace Ukraine. Had it worked, we would all be lauding Russia as brilliant military minds.
Lincoln Nguyen
Were Ukrainian units tied up while Russia remained in the area?
Elijah Russell
The problem is that Ukraine does the things Russia does badly(corruption etc) even worse. It’s hard to criticize Russia when you’re defending Ukraine.
David Martin
>Wallies could have without USSR Absolutely not lmao, imagine 80% of the Nazi army not being engaged in Russia but being able to reinforce North Africa, keep resources and then slowly work on Operation Sea lion.
Thomas Bennett
Myself nigger
Luis Moore
I've given up on the NPCs. They're gonna get whiplash when Zelensky gets hanged right after Biden announces that Ukraine is accepting peace with Russia.
Wyatt Cook
>muh JOOOOOOOZ God Americans are tiring
The war would have went on much longer, but the Germans had no way of beating the Soviets. Also, Germany wasn't fighting any " jews " and modern Russia is full of Jews and works with Israel regularly
I don't like Jews, but they're smart people and have representation and power in every European/North American government. If you think one side is " beating the Jews ' you're wrong
Are we assuming that Ukies defend things with helmets on sticks now
Soldiers in one place is where there aren't any somewhere else
Caleb James
Only if you're honest! I've seen Western shills unironically say "Russia is a autocracy, attacking a Western liberal democracy (in relation to Ukraine)".
Bust Destiny couldn't even manage that. Get fucking obliterated, midget.
In my hatred towards reditards I might have blue on blued.
Jackson King
They did make a mistake, but as stated Russia was close to scrapping the barrel in 43 until they got back Ukraine. The world is a better place either way because millions more would have died and much of Germany would be a nuclear wasteland. Plus Britain likely being hit hard by Sarin
Justin Bennett
Fucking hell. Yeah. But you shouldn't feel bad for hohols, any time you feel an urge to pity the hohol, just remember that girl with a swastika burned to her abdomen, tortured POWs and their absolutely humiliating surrender after LARPing as a undefeatable white saviours(being completely sold out to the jew) while hiding in a bunker for so long.
the people who held off Russia were the territorial guard that got handed rifles and ATGMs the day after Russia invaded, yes. no troops were taken from Donbass
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Russian strategy. The tactics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of deep battle doctrine most of the strategy will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Putin's Eurasianist outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Dugin literature, for instance. The chuggers understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this special military operation, to realise that they're not just effective—they say something deep about GEOPOLITICS. As a consequence people who dislike the Special Military Operation truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the irony in Putin's existential catchphrase "We are opening a humanitarian corridor," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Sergei's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. XD And yes, by the way, i DO have a V & Z tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothing personal kiddo.
We would have, but as I said, It would have been Nukes that would have won it for us. Thats not good.
Ryan White
Why wouldn't you cross the border? It's only some villages. There is no issue with doing that.
If the hohols think like you, they will sperg out and believe that russians seriously try to take a 3 million city with 20k soldiers and pull all your troops there.
And factually, russians took Kherson without a fight, because hohols had to move their troops to kiev and odessa - both cities were never attacked.
Carter Perez
Piggies holding it for the moment because they rushed in more motivated troops. Until they get demotivated by artillery, they'll keep delaying the inevitable.
Elijah Peterson
Are you a natural from Crimea or just moved there? here I know you like them
Why false flag when your already in a war with plenty of support from your own nation and your new vassals
Henry Young
>Germany made a mistake in fighting a two-front war Hitler knew the war was already over and suicide-bombed the communists with the remnants of his military in order to save the West
It worked, too, at least staving them off for a decade or five
Colton Jackson
Before: >Severodonetsk was a trap by out armed forces- Arestovich After: >complete capture of Severodonetsk by Russian troops will not strategically change the situation at the front - Arestovich Why did his statements do the same narrative shift but in reverse?
Operation Barbarossa was a horrible thing for the White race. There would be 500 million Russians right now if it wasn't for it, and there would be no population shortage in Germany. I wish Hitler and Stalin had just agreed to fuck over Poland and left each other at peace
