Handguns: >high visibility loaded chamber indicator How is knowing a gun is loaded a bad thing? >magazine disconnect safety system Again prevents the gun from being unintentionally fired. >limit magazine to 10 rounds You can always reload, I don't see what the issue is here. >microstamping to identify who owns the guns based on shell casing This will limit gun crimes from inner city gangs which you I idiots keeps touting is the main cause of gun violence.
All manufacturers would have to do is abide by this which allows them to be put into a registry for sale. So this isn't a fucking gun ban.
Rifles: >no pistol grips Hunting rifles don't need to have pistol grips. >no flash hider Are you trying to defend your home or snipe people from far away? >telescoping stock 99% of rifles does not have an adjustable stock >10 round limit This helps prevent mass shooting
So Any Forums try to discount what I said? You can't.
Literally the only thing that might make a (temporary) impact is a buyback, but the US government literally can't afford a buyback on that many guns.
Laws regulating guns mean shit when there is so many weapons in circulation you can just get one illegally. See
Logan Thompson
>How is knowing a gun is loaded a bad thing? privacy. it's what separates us from the rest of the world. americans value privacy. rest of the world needs a nanny to hold their hand.
Mason Martin
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Colton Johnson
All of your solutions are retarded not only from an enforcement perspective but a feasibility perspective as well. These solutions do not address the actual problem which is the feds. You have no knowledge of any of these topics.
>1pbtid
Jacob Edwards
The rest of the world is filled with cuck faggots
Austin Scott
>protect your community by removing the means to protect your community
William Russell
Why is this nigger still alive?
Brody Richardson
>we're not taking away your rights we're just limiting their scope and making it difficult for you to exercise them hmm I think there's a word for that
if that was true it would be illegal to record someone if they don't want to be recorded, but it isn't
Kayden Bailey
Mandating manufacturing features means gun companies have to re-tool their entire assembly lines. They amortize that cost by passing costs on to consumers. Other governments have tried this before, as has California. The main result is that it makes firearms prohibitively expensive.
All this does is create a means test: If you can't afford a 50% escalation in the price of any gun, then you don't get to own a gun.
A ruger mini-14 would pass all these conditions. Great semi auto rifle.
Jaxon Mitchell
The 2nd Amendment is non-negotiable.
Jordan Anderson
>hunting rifles don’t need pistol grips did the founding fathers just finish a hunting trip before writing the bill of rights? >are you trying to defend your home or blah blah blah flash hiders are important for retaining night visibility while firing at night, you know like if you were defending you’re home or fighting against tyrants in a night raid like Lexington and Concord >99% of rifles do not have an adjustable stock the most common rifle in the US is an AR-15, which have telescoping stocks >10 round limit will stop mass shootings Takes little training to be effective at changing mags in a fish in a barrel situation, if this is a nothing solution why is it worth turning millions of Americans with 30 rd mags felons?
tldr you’re a retard who doesn’t know what they’re talking about
Luke Butler
>Someone breaks into classroom >Pulls out pistol and points at children >"Oh thank God it's visibly loaded!"
There's already 450 million guns in circulation among 50 million owners. Criminals aren't exactly short on what guns to get from the blackmarket, which 50% of all criminals do, with only 10% being from vendors, and 30% either being from theft or through a family/friend, and 10% being from a private seller.
>Flash hider Silencers are to protect your ears. >You don't need It's not about need. Any step you take is aggressive because you haven't stopped at any other step before now.
The 2A wasn't written to shoot clay pigeons.
Brayden Carter
>1pbtid Anybody bumping this is a newfag who can't identify shills
Julian Morris
Tens of thousands of baby boys are brutally mutilated every day in circumcisions. This is the biggest evil in modern society.
Carter Hall
The irony
Mason Reyes
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Kayden Evans
>How is knowing a gun is loaded a bad thing? When it increases the complexity of a mechanical device whose purpose is predicated on it working properly every single time you pull it out to use it >limit magazine to 10 rounds Why? If the device was designed from the factory to hold more, why would you impose an arbitrary limit? >microstamping based on your description I don't believe you know what microstamping actually entails. You might want to brush up on your cheatsheet. >hunting rifles don't need to have pistol grips I didn't buy a rifle to hunt, what does hunting have to do with rifles? >flash hiders describe to me how a flash hider assists a baddie perpetrating a mass shooting >telescoping stock more fast and loose language, are we talking hunting rifles here, or rifles as a whole? >10 round limit see mag limit reply from pistol section
Kevin Nelson
Gonna reply to actual arguments: These laws are real designed by VP Harris when she was Attorney General of California. Assault with deadly weapon nets more prison time than just normal assault. For such an expert I am surprised you do not know this. I agree with this buyback so the people can recoup the cost of the guns. How would anyone know if your gun that you have locked in a safe is loaded or not? Those poor million dollar companies... The founding fathers also said A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, not some rando redneck.
Lucas Butler
Loaded chamber indicaters by mandate just increase manufacturing costs for models people dont want them. Magazine safety is stupid, already have drop, trigger, thumb, grip safeties. 10 rounds is an arbitrary number that will only go down, 30 is standard for ergonomics and reliability. Microstamping has proven ineffective in courts, firing pins are easy to replace and can be stolen and framed, shell casing cam be picked up from gun ranges and reliaded framing passerbys. Pistol grips are kino. Flash hiders are courteous to other shooters on the range. Telescoping sticks are standard on most AR models. You are retarded.
Mason James
>The founding fathers also said A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, not some rando redneck.
the worst part of this is you know if republicans are elected - they will never overturn it
Luis Taylor
Found the newfag who doesn't understand how to prevent bumping a thread
Zachary Cooper
I don't want politics anymore I want civil war
Asher Adams
>this helps to prevent mass shooting it will cause mass shooting of government enforcers even a lot of dems rely on guns for protectkng their families
Isaac Taylor
>magazine disconnect safety system >Again prevents the gun from being unintentionally fired. and then: >10 round limit >This helps prevent mass shooting
......the fuck kind of dumbassed faggotry is this shit?
Cooper Powell
round limit >This helps prevent mass shooting You can always reload, I don't see what the issue is here :)
Ayden Morris
op is a faggot
Jayden Watson
>How is knowing a gun is loaded a bad thing? Explain how it's a good thing? Bluffs for one. >Again prevents the gun from being unintentionally fired. Fair enough, but handling a gun properly does too. >You can always reload Yeah, you can always run out at the worst possible moment. It has fucked me so many times it CoD it's unreal. >This will limit gun crimes from inner city gangs which you I idiots keeps touting is the main cause of gun violence. Ah yes, the same guns that said criminals steal (because they're criminals and rob them) and then turn in for a profit at a "no questions asked" buy back program. >Hunting rifles don't need to have pistol grips. Explain why >Are you trying to defend your home or snipe people from far away? Yes >99% of rifles does not have an adjustable stock Describing a percentage isn't an explanation >This helps prevent mass shooting No because masses can still be fucking shot at you retard.