Kratom is immensely helpful, damn near miraculous, when it comes to getting ppl off of Os but it is extremely addictive in its own right. I've had this monkey on my back for 4 years now. 60gpd. Anyone else in this boat? Had anyone kicked it?
Kratom Addiction
Checked. Research ibogaine to reset your opium receptors and finally be free.
Taper down. Gabapentin helps withdrawal. Modafinil does too. Kratom withdrawal is pretty mild compared to oxy's or vicodin. It only lasts a few days
Kratom isn't really an opiate. Not sure how well this would work
It's works on the same receptors.
Also when you're ready to quit, take a couple days off work or wait for a long weekend where you don't have to do anything or deal with anyone. The withdrawal is mild but if you have to work or have obligations it makes it extremely difficult not to relapse. Think of it like a vacation
Not really
Thanks for reminding me I had pounds of red in the cuppord as I deal with a benzo withdrawal.
OP is taking huge amounts, it'll be a bit worse than mild. Switching to kratom to "quit" opiates is just postponing the inevitable. I finally quit drinking caffeine by drinking black tea!!!
why is kratom so popoular up there? I have never even heard about it here
black tea has more caffeine then reg coffee
Anyone else addicted to nicotine btw? How to quit bros?
Redpill me on ibogaine. Any legal alternatives?
Enjoy being braindead for a few years after coming off that habit
I'll check it out. Thanks.
It agonizes the exact same receptors. That's how it eases O withdrawal
Cut dosage 10% a week or 30% if you’re willing to experience discomfort.
>t. 50gpd to 15ish
I've been on and off kratom for years, as high a dosage as OP. I used it to get off Vicodin. Kratom wd sucks, but it's only bad for a few days and you can still kind of function. When I came off Vicodin it was two weeks of hell where I could barely get out of bed, and at one point took myself to the ER because I thought I was having heart failure
are you constipated
Yeah get on suboxone that’s the only way aside from serious wd.
Sublocade is good if insurance pays, once a month injectikn
I've done a long list of drugs. I can safely say that the worst drug I've ever experienced is kraton. I have a problem with alcohol which is probably the hardest drug for your body. But kratom I'd the lamest. Get constipation, rip ass open, don't fuck anyone, don't do anything stupid, don't take enough so dose again. Then feel like you are going to vomit. Basically replace Kratom with any other drug and you will be better off. Also NAC has helped me quit alcohol. Maybe it helps with Kratom
Stimulate your heart and mind organically. Reading, exercise etc. Totally negates a need for nicotine. If you're too much of a tard to stick to that then just go all out, cigars, packs of cigarettes, the strongest nicotine vapes you can buy. Puff them non stop till you are literally sick.
I finally kicked cocaine by smoking crack!!!!
Just grow your own and it stops being a problem.
Lol with? That's like saying to start methadone to get off Suboxone. It's a step back up the ladder.
I used kratom to get off subs, but I'm still stuck on the kratom.
Couple days of withdraws and then at least a month of anhedonia. Haven't made it past that part yet
i drink both coffee and shitty lipton black tea. former defiantly has more caffeine you crack head.
I tried it. Didnt like it. Lower doses felt nothing. Higher doses just felt uncomfortable.
fuck you and your daily kartoon thread you attention seeking faggot.
60 grams per day! my god. I do about 15g/day, 20 max (3-4 teaspoons, morning afternoon evening and sometimes late night, about every 5-6 hrs) and even that seems a bit heavy.
going cold turkey doesn't work for me, my willpower just isn't strong enough to make it last. i always end up going back after about 3-4 days. what i would recommend is tapering. so if you are doing 20g 3x/day, try cutting that in half. you might feel a little uncomfortable the first two or three days you jump down to a lower dose but your body will thank you- putting 60 grams of dehydrating powder through your digestive tract every day can't be good for you man! that's a heavy heavy habit you've got there. almost a 3 kilo a month habit.
after a few days at 10g/dose, try and jump down to 5g/dose. i used to be like you and take big heaping tablespoons for my doses but i found that smaller doses paradoxically have a better, more well-rounded effect. instead of making me groggy they bring out the characteristics of the strain better- white/green more energetic, gold/red more mellow. see if you can get down to a smaller dose, and then try and stretch out your doses- so, once every 6 or 8 hours instead of every 3 or 4. you'll find that you enjoy them more. after this, it's possible to jump down to twice or once a day, then take days off. if you stretch this process out over a month or two, it's painless.
also you can try mitragina hirsuta, kratom's relative, or make tea out of stem and vein. those are ways to decrease your dose and take a tolerance break without feeling dopesick so you can still go to work and socialize etc
as with other forms of withdrawal, exercise hot showers and CBD/THC seem to help. so if you go cold turkey off kratom, you can use other supplements to decrease side effects. immodium can be helpful as well.
Godspeed friend! It's not easy but you can do it. You've already taken the first step- realizing that it's time for a change.
I got capsules and basically reduced the amount of i take by one every three weeks to a month starting by taking a handful three times a day to 6 capsules 3 times a day until im at 1 capsule 3 times a day this and then 1 capsule morning and night this part was difficult for a few days but once in the morning then i switched to a weaker strain once i was at one once a day then i stopped completely, i have to add though that i had very bad untreated adhd and was recovering from ten years of herion addiction and once i got clean i was able to get treated for adhd and it wasnt till getting meds that i was able to quit smoking ciggs, quit smoking weed and get off kratom, also i was already clean when i started kratom and only got addicted because i was taking handfuls of it a day to self medicate without knowing it was addictive until i decided i didnt think it was helping and didnt take it one day and got sick, imagine beating 10 yrs heroin addiction and waking up one day and realize you fucking got hooked on the shit shit again for no fucking reason